Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[definedMF]

2C options Granlund, Bennett, Tavares, Karlsson
3C options Tavares, Bjugstad, Domi, Dvorak, Duchene, Suter, Donato
Wingers... P. Kane, Ehlers, Steeves, Cowan, Reichel, Marchment, Crouse, Domi, Robertson, Patches, Bjugstand, Saad, McMann, Mantha, Connor Brown, Mangiapane. E. Kane
Wingers line 4 +13th forward Lorentz, Jeannot, Comtois, Tanev, Bastian, Koepke, Eyssimont, Anderson (if bought out), Sherwood, Holmberg, Steeves, Connor Brown
4th line C options - Toews, Quillan, Holmberg, Krebs, Laughton, Haymes, Kampf

There are a lot of options there, who could adequately fill roles. My hope is that Tre gets on this early, and fills a spot or two with some trades before July 1st. Teams looking to dump a player, like Evander Kane... because they'll need the cap. Marchment and Karlsson also fall into that category.

Duchene is definitely not a 3C option, he is the same age as Tavares and had similar point production.
Otherwise the bolded are my wishlist:

2C Karlsson or Granlund (Bennett is unlikely and gonna be overpaid)
3C Tavares or Suter
Wingers: 1 of (Ehlers or Boeser), 2 of (C.Brown, Crouse, Marchment, Mangiapane, Bjugstad) and 2 of (Lorentz, Eyssimont, Anderson, Sherwood, Steeves)
4C Laughton or Toews

Most likely:

D remains the same

 

[Fogelhund]

Duchene is definitely not a 3C option, he is the same age as Tavares and had similar point production.
Otherwise the bolded are my wishlist:

Tavares/Duchene... 2C/3C... I don't care much how you label them... as one of the potential options, would be a good C core.

 

[The Shadow]

Tavares/Duchene... 2C/3C... I don't care much how you label them... as one of the potential options, would be a good C core.

Please no Duchene. He’s a complete no show in the playoffs especially this year. Let’s get faster, bigger and meaner.

 

[Fogelhund]

Please no Duchene. He’s a complete no show in the playoffs especially this year. Let’s get faster, bigger and meaner.

I agree, and it would require you to read prior posts... he's not my first option.. but if the other options like Bennett, Granlund and Karlsson don't fall to us... it's better than Domi... Our choices are limited, and there will be intense competition.

 

[The Shadow]

This playoff final clearly shows there are two elite teams and they’ve separated themselves from the rest by quite a bit.

We’ve had lopsided finals in the past but this looks like two heavy weights going blow for blow

How do we get to that next level?

 

[The Shadow]

I agree, and it would require you to read prior posts... he's not my first option.. but if the other options like Bennett, Granlund and Karlsson don't fall to us... it's better than Domi... Our choices are limited, and there will be intense competition.

Sorry I didn’t see the prior posts. We just cannot touch Duchene. He’s not a winner or playoff guy

 

[Fogelhund]

Sorry I didn’t see the prior posts. We just cannot touch Duchene. He’s not a winner or playoff guy

So if we fail to get Bennett, Karlsson or Granlund... we should just stick with Domi at 3C? Or??

 

[ULF_55]

The more I look at it, the more it looks like this group of UFAs is completely garbage.

With the cap going up, this trash is going to get paid

I don't think that's true, especially for a team only looking for a few players.

All of these players below are available without any magic or special circumstance, or charity buy-outs so the Leafs can sign them.

Options:
Centers: Bennett (7 years), Tavares (6 years), Dvorak (3 years).
Wingers: Ehlers (7 years), P.Suter(? years), C.Brown (3 years), Olofsson (3 years)
D: Lindgren (4 years), Perbix (3 years).

I think Ehlers won't be available, and Boeser will be going to the Wild.

And I know the Lindgren story, he's done ... he was playing in the Rangers cesspool.

 

[TMLAM34]

We need a second line center, that needs to be our number 1 priority (after re-signing Knies). I don’t think Bennett is a realistic option for us, I don’t see him leaving Florida and if he did I don’t see it to be coming here. Sounds like Buffalo is looking to make major changes, I’m starting to lean into do whatever it take to acquire McLeod. He brings a solid two-way game and speed that would fit perfectly on the second line in between McMann and Nylander.

McMann - McLeod - Nylander

I don’t know how you do it, but get it done. Woll, Cowan, Danford, Holmberg, Villeneuve, picks. Include whatever it takes.

 

[JKG33]

Another potential cap casualty is Ross Colton. I'd happily take him and Marchment. Two players that could slot in the top 6 or together on the 3rd line

 

[JKG33]

We need a second line center, that needs to be our number 1 priority (after re-signing Knies). I don’t think Bennett is a realistic option for us, I don’t see him leaving Florida and if he did I don’t see it to be coming here. Sounds like Buffalo is looking to make major changes, I’m starting to lean into do whatever it take to acquire McLeod. He brings a solid two-way game and speed that would fit perfectly on the second line in between McMann and Nylander.

McMann - McLeod - Nylander

I don’t know how you do it, but get it done. Woll, Cowan, Danford, Holmberg, Villeneuve, picks. Include whatever it takes.

McLeod isnt a major change they'd make. They just got him last summer at the expense of a significant prospect.

 

[Fogelhund]

McLeod isnt a major change they'd make. They just got him last summer at the expense of a significant prospect.

Their C depth isn't incredible as is... I'd agree with you, they need to keep McLeod.

They might make some change on the wing though, maybe depth C... I'd suggest they make changes on their D... too many young guys, not enough mentors.

 

[JKG33]

Their C depth isn't incredible as is... I'd agree with you, they need to keep McLeod.

They might make some change on the wing though, maybe depth C... I'd suggest they make changes on their D... too many young guys, not enough mentors.

Yea, I think they move Peterka and/or Byram. Neither of which the Leafs have any movable assets for. And what they need is a shutdown type D and probably another top 6 C if they like Thompson on the wing

 

[TMLAM34]

Moving McLeod, they’d still be able to run Thompson - Norris - Krebs as 1-3 down the middle. I guess having McLeod still in the picture, allows you to maybe run Norris and Thompson together with Thompson on the right wing. They also have Kulich. I don’t think they’d actively try to move McLeod but that’s someone I’d be willing to overpay to get it done.

 

[Fogelhund]

Yea, I think they move Peterka and/or Byram. Neither of which the Leafs have any movable assets for. And what they need is a shutdown type D and probably another top 6 C if they like Thompson on the wing

Byram and Dahlin were excellent together last year, I think it makes sense to keep them together.

Samuelsson and Power is too much inexperience. I'd move Samuelsson, and add Orlov or Gavrikov... both experience guys, who can play D well.

 

[thusk]

We need a second line center, that needs to be our number 1 priority (after re-signing Knies). I don’t think Bennett is a realistic option for us, I don’t see him leaving Florida and if he did I don’t see it to be coming here. Sounds like Buffalo is looking to make major changes, I’m starting to lean into do whatever it take to acquire McLeod. He brings a solid two-way game and speed that would fit perfectly on the second line in between McMann and Nylander.

McMann - McLeod - Nylander

I don’t know how you do it, but get it done. Woll, Cowan, Danford, Holmberg, Villeneuve, picks. Include whatever it takes.

If Bennett don't res8gn in Florida, i'm pretty sure leafs is #1 in his list. Maybe he will get more money in some trash team but do he really to play on those team rest of his carreer just for money considerating the moment of the year hes a his best is in playoff?

I could easily see

Knies-Matthews-Domi
Laughton-Bennett-Nylander
Mcmann-Tavares-Cowan

 

[WTFMAN99]

Byram and Dahlin were excellent together last year, I think it makes sense to keep them together.

Samuelsson and Power is too much inexperience. I'd move Samuelsson, and add Orlov or Gavrikov... both experience guys, who can play D well.

Samuelsson is an okay defenseman that just has durability problems, I think they can buy him out for only 1/3 the penalty.

 

[ULF_55]

If Bennett don't res8gn in Florida, i'm pretty sure leafs is #1 in his list. Maybe he will get more money in some trash team but do he really to play on those team rest of his carreer just for money considerating the moment of the year hes a his best is in playoff?

I could easily see

Knies-Matthews-Domi
Laughton-Bennett-Nylander
Mcmann-Tavares-Cowan

Interesting post.

Bennett res8gn in Florida ... use of the '8' for years in the contract. Tell me that wasn't accidental?

Cowan on the 3rd. line, with no experience.

Just pulling your leg!!

 

[Fogelhund]

Samuelsson is an okay defenseman that just has durability problems, I think they can buy him out for only 1/3 the penalty.

Relied on too young, too many minutes, not ready physically to handle it. It might be too late at this point... who knows. He'd be better off going somewhere, and having an experienced linemate, I think there is still a decent guy in there, with the right handling. Twenty minutes a game.. most often with a guy younger than him, wasn't a recipe for success.

 

[Fogelhund]

Interesting post.

Bennett res8gn in Florida ... use of the '8' for years in the contract. Tell me that wasn't accidental?

Cowan on the 3rd. line, with no experience.

Just pulling your leg!!

Or the dollar value of the contract here!!

 

[Fogelhund]

If Bennett don't res8gn in Florida, i'm pretty sure leafs is #1 in his list. Maybe he will get more money in some trash team but do he really to play on those team rest of his carreer just for money considerating the moment of the year hes a his best is in playoff?

I could easily see

Knies-Matthews-Domi
Laughton-Bennett-Nylander
Mcmann-Tavares-Cowan

Domi on the first line, is kind of one of those... if we really improve and spend big money for depth... ok, I can live with it... but that didn't happen here.

Laughton isn't a second line player. Our season will be pretty terrible if that's the case. We need someone far better there, though I agree he's best off on the wing... hopefully on the fourth line.

I can live with;

Knies Matthews xxx
xxx Bennett Nylander
McMann Tavares Cowan..

But I want different xxx's.

 

[mydnyte]

It’s too bad that our player that makes more than him can’t do anything like it in the playoffs

yea, it too bad he isnt the best player on the planet, and that nobody else comes close, because he has surreal speed that creates openings for every other player on the ice, else he will beat everyone to the net.

maybe we should tape a rocket launcher to Matthews back?

once McD hit UFA he'll again be the highest in the league ...heck Marner may make more than Matthews depending on where he signs. $alary is not a relevant factor, especially when on is going into his final year and the other just entered his first, its actually a cop out to use that.

 

[The Shadow]

yea, it too bad he isnt the best player on the planet, and that nobody else comes close, because he has surreal speed that creates openings for every other player on the ice, else he will beat everyone to the net.

maybe we should tape a rocket launcher to Matthews back?

once McD hit UFA he'll again be the highest in the league ...heck Marner may make more than Matthews depending on where he signs. $alary is not a relevant factor, especially when on is going into his final year and the other just entered his first, its actually a cop out to use that.

I think you’re onto something with the rocket idea

Heck I’d take half of Mcdavids effort

Why couldn’t our 69 goal guy play close to McDavids level?

Also Matthews is not on his first year

 

[The Shadow]

Laughton is a great trade piece to get some assets back. Trade him this season when his value is the highest and then have a Marlie ready to come in

Dubas did this with Sandin and it turned out to be Cowan.

They aren’t a true contender so best to re-tool and build it back up

 

[Americanadian]

Another potential cap casualty is Ross Colton. I'd happily take him and Marchment. Two players that could slot in the top 6 or together on the 3rd line

Benoit+Holmberg for Colton solves Colorado’s last roster needs (3LD and 4LW or 4RW). This is assuming they re-sign Drouin for 1-3LW.