rumman
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It’s the game that suffers, this is what happens when a generation of kids all get trophy, counterproductive entitlement……….
Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.
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Leafs4Life77
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Scout's Analysis: An off-season blueprint for the Maple Leafs
As the Maple Leafs seek to change the DNA of their team this off-season, scout Jason Bukala breaks down every player on the roster and describes a plan for how he'd approach the off-season in Toronto.www.sportsnet.ca
Thoughts, Roster itself looks competitive I think his numbers are off on some players -- IE Donato only make 3m for 3 years.
Rielly at $5.5M and Hildeby should return a better player than Crouse imo.
I don't think trading Mo for a similar cap hit player and putting him on RW3 (or LW3) makes a whole lot of sense.
SprDaVE
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Scout's Analysis: An off-season blueprint for the Maple Leafs
As the Maple Leafs seek to change the DNA of their team this off-season, scout Jason Bukala breaks down every player on the roster and describes a plan for how he'd approach the off-season in Toronto.
Thoughts, Roster itself looks competitive I think his numbers are off on some players -- IE Donato only make 3m for 3 years.
Interesting outlook.
Not sure I agree that Utah needs a 2nd PP defenseman behind Sergachev... they have Durzi and even Kesselring as options. Rielly (2M retained) and Hildeby for Crouse is ok but if I'm retaining on Rielly and adding probably one of our top "prospects", I'd expect a little more from their side. I think Riellys value jumps up greatly with retention.
The signings are all fine? I'm not a fan of Grzelcyk though and would much rather target Fabbro in all of this.
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Just for fun. Curious what you think.
Trades:
David Kampf for 6th round pick
Calle Jarnkrok for 5th round pick
Nicholas Robertson + 2025 2nd round pick for Mason Marchment
$91,164,499 Cap Hit | $4,335,501 Proj. Cap Space | 20 / 23 Roster Size |
Max Domi (3.75x3) | Auston Matthews (13.25x3) | Matthew Knies (7.5x8) |
Mason Marchment (4.5x1) | Sam Bennett (7x7) | William Nylander (11.5x7) |
Easton Cowan (0.873x3) | John Tavares (5x4) | Andrew Mangiapane (2x1) |
Steven Lorentz (1x1) | Scott Laughton (1.5x1) | Bobby McMann (1.35x1) |
Morgan Reilly (7.5x5) | Brandon Carlo (3.48x2) |
Jake McCabe (4.5x5) | Christopher Tanev (4.5x5) |
Simon Benoit (1.35x2) | Oliver Ekman-Larsson (3.5x3) |
Anthony Stolarz (2.5x1) |
Joseph Woll (3.66x3) |
Trades:
David Kampf for 6th round pick
Calle Jarnkrok for 5th round pick
Nicholas Robertson + 2025 2nd round pick for Mason Marchment
Tak7
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Dallas might take that for Marchment. They need to clear space to sign Robertson after extending Rantanen so that actually might be too much for a guy with 1 year left.
Bennett I am pretty sure will re-up in Florida, and I would consider JT at that price, but if Marner goes they may as well really shake up the core and let him and Rielly go too
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If Chris Johnson is the guy I think it is I believe him just as much as I do Frank Serravelli so I'll believe Friedman over him. Vegas is probably the most obvious place that'd be interested in him. Playmaking winger to play with Eichel. They'd either have to do a sign and trade with us and send Barbashev or Karlsson for the cap to work ad get that 8th year or they are gonna have to make a few moves before FA begins and get him for 7. They also have to sign Eichel next year as well.
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Crouse is a disappointment as a player, who never met expectations, so we certainly shouldnt be retaining on Rielly (under any circumstance, as cap means more to us) ...if that was the deal straight up, and we just wanted to move on from Rielly and get some cap savings, sure, take the downgrade in Crouse, as he is NOT worth all the hype he gets on the Leafs board. he put up 12g and 6a last season for goodness sakes, that's a pure dump/reclamation project
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if Brandt Clarke was really available (as rumored at the deadline) he should most definitely be our #1 target from LA if they were willing to deal for Marner's right, or a sign and trade.
Would be willing to expand on a deal and send Rielly and Woll out west too.
In what world does a pending UFA get that kind of return?if Brandt Clarke was really available (as rumored at the deadline) he should most definitely be our #1 target from LA if they were willing to deal for Marner's right, or a sign and trade.
Would be willing to expand on a deal and send Rielly and Woll out west too.
LA might be interested in Rielly too, but reality is unless Knies or Nylander are on the table, Toronto has nothing LA would want for Clarke
Americanadian
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Call me old school but I think you’d want more than 3 players on the roster that shoot right.
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it doesnt, I said he should be the target though if available.
if LA was looking to move the player at his age/position, they arent high on him.
I think a 3rd was the best return for a players rights that I can remember in recent times…
It sucks but Vegas doesn’t really have to trade him to Toronto. I’m sure all these teams with cap space would take Karlsson in a heartbeat.
I’m not even sure Marner signs for full term. Would anyone be surprised if he signed a high AAV, short term deal like Matthews?
WTFMAN99
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What is a basis for a Rielly to LAK trade in your opinion? I was thinking Danault might make sense.
Tak7
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In what sort of sick, twisted, fantasy-ass world do you live in where you think you're going to get LA's BEST young blueline piece for Mitch Marner's age 37 season?if Brandt Clarke was really available (as rumored at the deadline) he should most definitely be our #1 target from LA if they were willing to deal for Marner's right, or a sign and trade.
Would be willing to expand on a deal and send Rielly and Woll out west too.
That's not how sign and trades for pending UFAs work lol.
Given LA's lack of center depth I dont see Danault going anywhere. Once Kopitar retires that center position is very thin.
I wonder if a trade around Moore and Rielly could work. Maybe LA adds a pick.
LA also has Spence who could be available, I think him and Moore would be too much for Rielly. I also dont see a place for him in Toronto if Rielly is replaced with a UFA signing
Americanadian
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Is Gavrikov re-signing? I thought I saw that was a priority for LA and it was going to be between 6-7M.
the time for the leafs to acquire Clarke probably would've been last summer in a Marner deal.
He may or may not be. I think LA would like him back, he's a great defender but also not a real offensive threat.
Doughty is still a horse capable of playing big minutes, but the Anderson-Doughty pairing doesnt provide much offense either.
If LA got Rielly he could add some offense next to Doughty, and Anderson could be moved down next to Clarke or Spence. Or traded if Gavrikov is re-signed.
I've also seen ideas of LA trading Anderson+ for Byram, with the assumption that Byram plays with Doughty and Gavrikov is re-signed.
WTFMAN99
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Moore would probably be fine, a 4th in this year or next's draft to equal it out?
Americanadian
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Is the assumption that Buffalo’s management is incompetent enough to acquire a LD in a Byram trade?
Menzinger
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Neither do I.
And the Leafs front office aren't going to blow up their whole core until closer to 2028 anyways. So assuming Marner walks and their on the fence about a Tavares extension, I wouldn't bank on them trading another another piece anytime soon
Menzinger
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They're going to have to clear out a bunch of the support players if they want to change things up beyond Marner.
They can't run back the same bottom nine lines. Guys like Kampf and Robertson were already in the press box during the playoffs, so it's going to have to go beyond that
Laughton is clearly staying. But McCann, Jarnkrok, Domi, Lorentz ect all have to be potentially out the door. Obviously not all, but room is going to have to be made
They can't run back the same bottom nine lines. Guys like Kampf and Robertson were already in the press box during the playoffs, so it's going to have to go beyond that
Laughton is clearly staying. But McCann, Jarnkrok, Domi, Lorentz ect all have to be potentially out the door. Obviously not all, but room is going to have to be made
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