Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Fogelhund]

I think the easy go is 1st. line; Knies - Matthews - Domi.

IMO, the real work is the middle 6, with the 2nd. line: ? - ? - Nylander.

That's always an option... I just think you'd get more out of Patrick Kane for about the same money, than you would from Domi....

 

[Casino Royale]

yeah axe your coach because he pulled a goalie who in that game couldn't stop a beachball, pure genius............

you don't actually believe that is the sole reason..right?



fyi there is a mains thread containing the multitude of reasons in case you do.

 

[Skullz]

We really need to focus on speed and forechecking ability. That was the bread and butter of Berube in STL, and and also Florida right now.

We’re a quite noticeably slow team - I’d love to get more speed injected.

 

[WTFMAN99]

We really need to focus on speed and forechecking ability. That was the bread and butter of Berube in STL, and and also Florida right now.

We’re a quite noticeably slow team - I’d love to get more speed injected.

Team speed has been an issue dating back to at least the initial loss to Florida and hasn't been fixed.

A lot of people think of us as a soft speedy skill team and I think we're not as soft but we're definitely not speedy. We're a skilled team that wilts in big moments that needs to get faster and deeper.

 

[ULF_55]

That's always an option... I just think you'd get more out of Patrick Kane for about the same money, than you would from Domi....

Domi doesn't have to agree.
Kane does.

 

[ULF_55]

Team speed has been an issue dating back to at least the initial loss to Florida and hasn't been fixed.

A lot of people think of us as a soft speedy skill team and I think we're not as soft but we're definitely not speedy. We're a skilled team that wilts in big moments that needs to get faster and deeper.

There hasn't really been any threat outside of 3-4 players, so easy to defend.

 

[Face Of Bear]

My two top targets right now are Toews as our 4C and P. Kane as a Marner-lite replacement to play with Matthews. Guys are old but they're the kind of DNA shift we need.

 

[SprDaVE]

My two top targets right now are Toews as our 4C and P. Kane as a Marner-lite replacement to play with Matthews. Guys are old but they're the kind of DNA shift we need.

It would depend on the rest of the additions/changes. If they are the main changes and additions, it's gonna be a potentially very long season.

 

[Face Of Bear]

It would depend on the rest of the additions/changes. If they are the main changes and additions, it's gonna be a potentially very long season.

Definitely not the "main additions"... but if we can get the two for ~5M I'd say that's a good start

 

[Fogelhund]

There hasn't really been any threat outside of 3-4 players, so easy to defend.

It's a strange thing. We can bring in guys who are 30-40 point guys, and suddenly their offense dries up with us. Regular season guys, and their offense dries up in the playoffs... is it the way we play, the culture... it's one of those things you look at, and it's kind of strange.

 

[WTFMAN99]

The other thing that is kind of under the radar is that Austin Elliott camp invite, I wonder if they consider bringing him in? We have Ahkyamatov in the system...

Would the organization consider using Hildeby as a trade chip? I think around a dozen teams in the last year have had various conversations about him and the organization has largely not entertained them.

NYR is one team that did reach out.

 

[ErnieLeafs]

The other thing that is kind of under the radar is that Austin Elliott camp invite, I wonder if they consider bringing him in? We have Ahkyamatov in the system...

Would the organization consider using Hildeby as a trade chip? I think around a dozen teams in the last year have had various conversations about him and the organization has largely not entertained them.

NYR is one team that did reach out.

I'd send them Hildeby and Jarnkrok for Kreider

 

[rumman]

you don't actually believe that is the sole reason..right?



fyi there is a mains thread containing the multitude of reasons in case you do.

I don’t need a pack of fools to tell me what to think, I’m nit one of your herd members. Baaaaaa……..

 

[SprDaVE]

The other thing that is kind of under the radar is that Austin Elliott camp invite, I wonder if they consider bringing him in? We have Ahkyamatov in the system...

Would the organization consider using Hildeby as a trade chip? I think around a dozen teams in the last year have had various conversations about him and the organization has largely not entertained them.

NYR is one team that did reach out.

The Leafs have some serious considerations on what to do with their goaltending. If they insist on keeping both Stolarz and Woll for next season, and maybe beyond, they might need to consider trading Hildeby while his value is still pretty high being waiver exempt. Chances are they keep Hildeby as the #3 and AA as the #4 though and worry about it another time.

As for Austin Elliott, he'll probably get an AHL contract but his ceiling is pretty low. He had a fantastic run with the Knights only losing 3 or 4 games between the regular season, playoffs AND memorial cup, which is insane, but he's a thin and small goaltender carried by one of the best CHL teams. Worth a shot to see how he does as a pro.

 

[ULF_55]

The Leafs have some serious considerations on what to do with their goaltending. If they insist on keeping both Stolarz and Woll for next season, and maybe beyond, they might need to consider trading Hildeby while his value is still pretty high being waiver exempt. Chances are they keep Hildeby as the #3 and AA as the #4 though and worry about it another time.

As for Austin Elliott, he'll probably get an AHL contract but his ceiling is pretty low. He had a fantastic run with the Knights only losing 3 or 4 games between the regular season, playoffs AND memorial cup, which is insane, but he's a thin and small goaltender carried by one of the best CHL teams. Worth a shot to see how he does as a pro.

I believe someone has said he committed to a NCAA?

 

[SprDaVE]

I believe someone has said he committed to a NCAA?

Makes sense for him.

 

[hamzarocks]

Played around on puckpedia. Can run the following team with ~5.15M to spare.

If JT makes too little, then give him 1.5M more and reduce his years from 6 to 3 years. And give Bennett another 1M

Still would have 2M+ in cap remaining

 

[WTFMAN99]

The Leafs have some serious considerations on what to do with their goaltending. If they insist on keeping both Stolarz and Woll for next season, and maybe beyond, they might need to consider trading Hildeby while his value is still pretty high being waiver exempt. Chances are they keep Hildeby as the #3 and AA as the #4 though and worry about it another time.

As for Austin Elliott, he'll probably get an AHL contract but his ceiling is pretty low. He had a fantastic run with the Knights only losing 3 or 4 games between the regular season, playoffs AND memorial cup, which is insane, but he's a thin and small goaltender carried by one of the best CHL teams. Worth a shot to see how he does as a pro.

Austin Elliott is listed at 6'2 and 185 lbs...maybe another 10-15 lbs but 6'2 isn't so bad? I don't know about the upside but at the very least, he is mentally strong to stay in those games, didn't give up any softies etc.

 

[SprDaVE]

Austin Elliott is listed at 6'2 and 185 lbs...maybe another 10-15 lbs but 6'2 isn't so bad? I don't know about the upside but at the very least, he is mentally strong to stay in those games, didn't give up any softies etc.

He definitely doesn't look like 6'2" in net to me. Either way, his track record is decent, he had a great year, and probably could be a solid pro. Sounds like he's going the NCAA route so we'll see.

 

[Fogelhund]

The other thing that is kind of under the radar is that Austin Elliott camp invite, I wonder if they consider bringing him in? We have Ahkyamatov in the system...

Would the organization consider using Hildeby as a trade chip? I think around a dozen teams in the last year have had various conversations about him and the organization has largely not entertained them.

NYR is one team that did reach out.

Elliott has signed to play in the NCAA for next year... I'm not sure what the out clauses are on that, if you can choose not to play.

 

[notbias]

Rielly is a massive liability on D that might get reduced to third pairing minutes this year. If you can move him or even buy him out you make that move. No cup with Rielly in the top 4.

Was 2nd in TOI during the playoffs, and 1st in EVTOI, more than everyone's golden boy Tanev.

Seems like Berube disagrees with you.

 

[Kurtz]

The Leafs have some serious considerations on what to do with their goaltending. If they insist on keeping both Stolarz and Woll for next season, and maybe beyond, they might need to consider trading Hildeby while his value is still pretty high being waiver exempt. Chances are they keep Hildeby as the #3 and AA as the #4 though and worry about it another time.

As for Austin Elliott, he'll probably get an AHL contract but his ceiling is pretty low. He had a fantastic run with the Knights only losing 3 or 4 games between the regular season, playoffs AND memorial cup, which is insane, but he's a thin and small goaltender carried by one of the best CHL teams. Worth a shot to see how he does as a pro.

Thin and 6'2 is workable I think. Here's what 6'2 Bob looks like:

 

[SprDaVE]

Elliott has signed to play in the NCAA for next year... I'm not sure what the out clauses are on that, if you can choose not to play.

There are no "contracts" or clauses for the NCAA. They commit to a school but can leave for pro whenever. He committed to UMass back in February, so maybe in the last 3 months and his memorial cup run turned some heads enough for him to change his mind and go pro.

 

[Fogelhund]

Was 2nd in TOI during the playoffs, and 1st in EVTOI, more than everyone's golden boy Tanev.

Seems like Berube disagrees with you.

The main reason for Rielly's dropoff this year, was his skating has gone down hill. "IF" he is to be on the roster next year, I think the main goal this offseason, is to get that skating speed back up to where it was. If he can get his skating back, and a good first step, it will go a long way in making his game acceptable.

He went from 90th percentile in skating speed, and 94th percentile in bursts over 20mph two years ago, to 78th percentile in skating speed.... It's only a small margin, and his skating is better than most, but he really needs that acceleration back, and his skating overall.

Hard to stop father time, but get the weight down a little, work on foot speed...

 

[notbias]

The main reason for Rielly's dropoff this year, was his skating has gone down hill. "IF" he is to be on the roster next year, I think the main goal this offseason, is to get that skating speed back up to where it was. If he can get his skating back, and a good first step, it will go a long way in making his game acceptable.

He went from 90th percentile in skating speed, and 94th percentile in bursts over 20mph two years ago, to 78th percentile in skating speed.... It's only a small margin, and his skating is better than most, but he really needs that acceleration back, and his skating overall.

Hard to stop father time, but get the weight down a little, work on foot speed...

He was still more effective than most D on the team... I do think he had a drop off in play, but it is exaggerated because the new toys can do no wrong.

I don't disagree with you though.