Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Americanadian]

Well, if they got Aaron Ekblad in the $8 million range for number one or top four RHD and you needed to shift some money, or grab a puck mover, you might have an appetite to move off Carlo in a 2 step kind of trade. Let’s say for easy spitballing it’s Bowen Byram.

McCabe Tanev
Byram Ekblad
Rielly Ekman-Larsson
Benoit

For example… he wouldn’t be the first and most obvious guy to move but if “everything’s on the table” and you need a rebalance of the top 6. Not impossible. On merit Rielly probably gets voted off first. OEL is long in the tooth and would be more obvious.

Byram-Ekblad in a vacuum are a good pairing but you’re looking at 15M. Between that and McCabe-Tanev you’re looking at 24M on your top 4. You’d definitely want to move off both OEL and Rielly and shift that 11M to forwards.

I fully believe Carlo could be part of a Byram trade in the same style as the Chychrun for Jensen deal. You just need to clear out the log jam of LD.

 

[Stephen]

There's a lot of possibilities but I think Carlo is someone they targetted and they want to keep. Only way they punt him after spending tons of time and assets getting him is if he wants out already. There are many other moves they'll likely do to get to where they want to be, and a lot of that will be just signing players and hoping for the best. But sure, it's fun to think about. If only Treliving had the same level of creativity.

I don’t think it’s likely either but worth a ponder now that we’re in a day dream phase.

 

[Stephen]

Byram-Ekblad in a vacuum are a good pairing but you’re looking at 15M. Between that and McCabe-Tanev you’re looking at 24M on your top 4. You’d definitely want to move off both OEL and Rielly and shift that 11M to forwards.

I fully believe Carlo could be part of a Byram trade in the same style as the Chychrun for Jensen deal. You just need to clear out the log jam of LD.

The problem begins and ends with Rielly essentially.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Kreider-Matthews-Roslovic
Knies-Bennett-Nylander
Laughton-Tavares-Cowan
Lorentz-Domi-McMann

Might be able to make something like that work. Kreider for Jarn/Kampf/Holmberg/Robertson etc (close to a cap dump). Roslovic is estimated to be at around 4.1M cap hit on a 3 year deal - he’s played with AM before, big opportunity to put up some big numbers. Maybe 4.5M x 2? Knies I’d offer 7M x 4 years, leaves him as RFA. Bennett up to 8M. Give Cowan his games to see if he’s ready, if not easy to fill someone in the bottom 6 and shift Domi up. Originally had Domi on that top line instead of Ros but 1 RH shot in our top 9 won’t work - I think Leafs will target Ros. Plus I like the offensive flexibility we have with Domi in bottom 6, can move him around anywhere. Ideal world would be swap McMann+ for Crouse (50% retained) but not sure if he’s avail.

 

[TMLAM34]

I expect McDavid to re-sign this summer.

I hope he does so people stop talking about him signing here, it won’t happen unfortunately.

 

[Americanadian]

Kreider-Matthews-Roslovic
Knies-Bennett-Nylander
Laughton-Tavares-Cowan
Lorentz-Domi-McMann

Might be able to make something like that work. Kreider for Jarn/Kampf/Holmberg/Robertson etc (close to a cap dump). Roslovic is estimated to be at around 4.1M cap hit on a 3 year deal - he’s played with AM before, big opportunity to put up some big numbers. Maybe 4.5M x 2? Knies I’d offer 7M x 4 years, leaves him as RFA. Bennett up to 8M. Give Cowan his games to see if he’s ready, if not easy to fill someone in the bottom 6 and shift Domi up. Originally had Domi on that top line instead of Ros but 1 RH shot in our top 9 won’t work - I think Leafs will target Ros. Plus I like the offensive flexibility we have with Domi in bottom 6, can move him around anywhere. Ideal world would be swap McMann+ for Crouse (50% retained) but not sure if he’s avail.

Finally a 2nd person on the Roslovic train. Although his playoffs should reduce his market value. I’m pencilling him in at like 3.5Mx1 or 3Mx2.

 

[Dreakmur]

We've seen the upside for 20 games at the end of 23-24.

What we saw last season was a disaster, what we saw for the first 60 games 2 seasons ago was a disaster. Forgive me for believing in the the larger sample.

So what we saw when he was misused wasn’t as good as when he was put in a position to succeed? Who would have thought?

We’ve also seen how he plays on the playoffs, and quite frankly, I can’t believe anyone would want to get rid of a guy who plays like he does once the real season starts.

 

[Dreakmur]

Finally a 2nd person on the Roslovic train. Although his playoffs should reduce his market value. I’m pencilling him in at like 3.5Mx1 or 3Mx2.

Let’s get rid of Domi to replace him with a guy puts up fewer points and sucks in the playoffs!

 

[Fogelhund]

I don't get the attraction for Roslovic... he's basically just another Domi.

 

[Dreakmur]

I don't get the attraction for Roslovic... he's basically just another Domi.

I’d consider Roslovic as the 3RW behind Domi and Nylander. He’s an ok complimentary winger, and he should be relatively cheap.

Like Mangiapagne, he’s not great in terms of fit, but he’s very likely to outscore his contract.

 

[Avilaj07]

If Marner signs with the Hurricanes, after refusing to waive to be traded there for Rantanen. He will instantly become one of the most hated Leaf players ever. Pretty much the Vince Carter of the Raptors.

 

[BallardEra]

If Marner signs with the Hurricanes, after refusing to waive to be traded there for Rantanen. He will instantly become one of the most hated Leaf players ever. Pretty much the Vince Carter of the Raptors.

He’ll end up in the Western Conference for sure.

 

[Fogelhund]

I’d consider Roslovic as the 3RW behind Domi and Nylander. He’s an ok complimentary winger, and he should be relatively cheap.

Like Mangiapagne, he’s not great in terms of fit, but he’s very likely to outscore his contract.

In 81 games last year, he had 14 hits. That's the same number as Nylander.

Look, I don't need a team full of thugs, but one thing we need to be, is tougher to play against, and he absolutely does not do that.

So, he skates relatively well, doesn't hit anything, will put up 30 something points, and isn't good at the defensive side of the game... Put me in the firm no department.

 

[TMLAM34]

Didn’t Roslovic want out of Canada a few years back? Don’t see him signing here nor do I want him.

 

[Americanadian]

Let’s get rid of Domi to replace him with a guy puts up fewer points and sucks in the playoffs!

At least Roslovic is a scoring threat. He scored 5 more goals this season while playing <14 min/game than Domi has scored in 2 seasons as a Leaf.

 

[Americanadian]

In 81 games last year, he had 14 hits. That's the same number as Nylander.

Look, I don't need a team full of thugs, but one thing we need to be, is tougher to play against, and he absolutely does not do that.

So, he skates relatively well, doesn't hit anything, will put up 30 something points, and isn't good at the defensive side of the game... Put me in the firm no department.

I view it as the same thing as Drouin reuniting with MacKinnon. Drouin showed up in Colorado making 2M and jumped from being a half point/GP to a 56 point player and then a 71 point pace this season.

Can reuniting Matthews with Roslovic reignite Roslovic so the Leafs get surplus offensive value? He's scored 20+ goals twice in his career and he has a couple seasons with mid 40s points. Can he put up 25/35 alongside Matthews?

 

[Fogelhund]

I view it as the same thing as Drouin reuniting with MacKinnon. Drouin showed up in Colorado making 2M and jumped from being a half point/GP to a 56 point player and then a 71 point pace this season.

Can reuniting Matthews with Roslovic reignite Roslovic so the Leafs get surplus offensive value? He's scored 20+ goals twice in his career and he has a couple seasons with mid 40s points. Can he put up 25/35 alongside Matthews?

We don't need more cardio merchants... especially with Matthews. If he doesn't have a physical game, and sucks defensively, the answer is no.

 

[Americanadian]

So what we saw when he was misused wasn’t as good as when he was put in a position to succeed? Who would have thought?

We’ve also seen how he plays on the playoffs, and quite frankly, I can’t believe anyone would want to get rid of a guy who plays like he does once the real season starts.

I feel like we watched two different playoffs. I watched him get buried in his own zone every shift and take 10 penalties (including 1 major).

I'm not denying that he produced 7 points, I'm saying that every other aspect of his game was detrimental.

 

[Americanadian]

We don't need more cardio merchants... especially with Matthews. If he doesn't have a physical game, the answer is no.

It ultimately comes down to how the roster is structured. If the Leafs actually put together 3 real scoring lines they will probably be forced to use a 3rd cog on each line that isn't an ideal fit. Players with an edge come at a premium and you can't just fill every hole with the most physical player available because eventually you'll have a team that can't score (because the physical players who score are scarce). If they continue to be a 2 line team and they stick Tavares on a 3rd line with 2 guys who should be a 3rd cog then Roslovic isn't necessary.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Didn’t Roslovic want out of Canada a few years back? Don’t see him signing here nor do I want him.

Jets F Roslovic asks for a trade - TSN.ca

Agent Claude Lemieux has told TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun that his client, Winnipeg Jets forward Jack Roslovic, has asked for a trade.

www.tsn.ca

December 29, 2021

Agent Claude Lemieux has told TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun that his client, Winnipeg Jets forward Jack Roslovic, has asked for a trade.

A restricted free agent, Roslovic is reportedly at home in Columbus and won't be at Jets training camp when it opens on Sunday, as reported by Mike McIntyre of the Winnipeg Free Press.

If he returns to Canada, he would have to undergo a seven-day quarantine and have four negative COVID-19 tests.

Roslovic, 23, had career highs in goals (12), assists (17) and points (29) in 71 games last season with the Jets. He had two assists in four playoff games against the Calgary Flames in the NHL's Return to Play.

The American forward was drafted in the first round (25th overall) by the Jets at the 2015 NHL Draft.

 

[TMLAM34]

With Marner walking, I honestly wonder if we’ll need to explore the trade market for Nylander and essentially split him into two top six forwards. Bennett would be a nice UFA addition, but I don’t see it actually happening and then it leaves replacing Marner pretty difficult.

To Toronto: Dylan Guenther + Barrett Hayton + 2026 OTT 2nd Round Draft Pick
To Utah: William Nylander

Then sign Brock Boeser to help replace more of the offence we will be loosing. Trade for Ross Colton if Colorado is looking to shed some salary.


Knies(8) - Matthews(13.25) - Boeser(8)
Domi(3.75) - Hayton(2.65) - Guenther(7.14)
Colton(4) - Tavares(5.5) - McMann(1.35)
Jeannot(2.85) - Laughton(1.5) - Holmberg(1.35)
Quillan(0.88)

Rielly(7.5) - Carlo(3.49)
McCabe(4.51) - Tanev(4.5)
Ekman Larsson(3.5) - Perbix(2.75)
Myers(0.85)

Stolarz(2.5) - Woll(3.67)

This team is roughly 93.5 million towards the cap.

 

[Dreakmur]

At least Roslovic is a scoring threat. He scored 5 more goals this season while playing <14 min/game than Domi has scored in 2 seasons as a Leaf.

He’ll score more than Domi, and Matthews will score less than he would have… and then you look at the playoffs.

 

[Dreakmur]

I feel like we watched two different playoffs. I watched him get buried in his own zone every shift and take 10 penalties (including 1 major).

I'm not denying that he produced 7 points, I'm saying that every other aspect of his game was detrimental.

You do know that center and wing are significantly different positions, right?

 

[Americanadian]

You do know that center and wing are significantly different positions, right?

 

[Dreakmur]

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Glad I could help. Please adjust your opinions accordingly.