Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Americanadian]

This also applies to Bobby McMann. The strategy with both players should be to gauge their willingness to sign team friendly deals, or trade them for more expensive but better players.

Something like:
McMann for Marchment
McMann + Benoit for Kreider + Miller (this move would open a lot of capspace for New York)

Be careful suggesting trading Benoit and McMann. You’ll upset a lot of people who don’t know how UFA works.

 

[sxvnert]

Something like:
McMann for Marchment

Would if they're willing to take back Jarnkrok or Kampf to make up for his 4.5m price tag. Toss in Nick Robertson.

Marchment @ 1yr/$4,500,000
Nick Robertson RFA
for
McMann @ 1yr/$1,350,000
Jarnkrok @ 1yr/$2,100,000 or Kampf @ 2yr/$2,400,000
$3,450,000 or $3,750,000

Lorentz-Laughton-Marchment

Marchments playoff totals aren't anything to write home about either.

 

[Americanadian]

Would if they're willing to take back Jarnkrok or Kampf to make up for his 4.5m price tag. Toss in Nick Robertson.

Marchment @ 1yr/$4,500,000
Nick Robertson RFA
for
McMann @ 1yr/$1,350,000
Jarnkrok @ 1yr/$2,100,000 or Kampf @ 2yr/$2,400,000
$3,450,000 or $3,750,000

Lorentz-Laughton-Marchment

Marchments playoff totals aren't anything to write home about either.

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They can’t afford more contracts. They need to clear space.

 

[jaric1862]

As much as people say Duchene isn’t the right fit for this team, he is one of the few legitimate top-nine centers available and I’d be surprised if the Leafs aren’t showing interest.

 

[rumman]

As much as people say Duchene isn’t the right fit for this team, he is one of the few legitimate top-nine centers available and I’d be surprised if the Leafs aren’t showing interest.

Hard pass on Duchene……

 

[Americanadian]

As much as people say Duchene isn’t the right fit for this team, he is one of the few legitimate top-nine centers available and I’d be surprised if the Leafs aren’t showing interest.

Reunite this duo in Toronto:

 

[OVO16]

For fun, here's my off-season. Hate away

1. Marner, Lorentz and Pacioretty Walks
2. Re-Sign Knies & Tavares
3. Trade/Waive both Kampf & Jarnkrok for low level picks
4. TRADE: Nick Robertson for Mason Marchment (1 for 1. Dallas needs to clear Salary)
5. TRADE: Pontus Holmberg + Simon Benoit for Ross Colton
6. FREE AGENT SIGNINGS: Andrew Mangiapane, Tanner Jeannot & Brent Burns (short term deals, especially for Burns)

Lineup:

Matthew Knies - Auston Mathews - William Nylander
Mason Marchment - John Tavares - Max Domi
Bobby McMann - Ross Colton - Easton Cowan
Tanner Jeannot - Scott Laughton - Andrew Mangiapane

Morgan Rielly - Brandon Carlo
Jake McCabe - Chris Tanev
Ekman-Larson - Brent Burns
Phillipe Myers

 

[SprDaVE]

For fun, here's my off-season. Hate away

1. Marner, Lorentz and Pacioretty Walks
2. Re-Sign Knies & Tavares
3. Trade/Waive both Kampf & Jarnkrok for low level picks
4. TRADE: Nick Robertson for Mason Marchment (1 for 1. Dallas needs to clear Salary)
5. TRADE: Pontus Holmberg + Simon Benoit for Ross Colton
6. FREE AGENT SIGNINGS: Andrew Mangiapane, Tanner Jeannot & Brent Burns (short term deals, especially for Burns)

Lineup:

Matthew Knies - Auston Mathews - William Nylander
Mason Marchment - John Tavares - Max Domi
Bobby McMann - Ross Colton - Easton Cowan
Tanner Jeannot - Scott Laughton - Andrew Mangiapane

Morgan Rielly - Brandon Carlo
Jake McCabe - Chris Tanev
Ekman-Larson - Brent Burns
Phillipe Myers

Doesn't seem completely unreasonable. I'd prefer a better/young player over Burns, like Fabbro for example, but could be ok? It has to be one of the oldest defensive cores of the cap era though, which doesn't mean bad but definitely not great.

I like the Mangiapane short-term signing, but not sure it would fit if the idea is for him to play 4th line minutes. Probably would be at least playing over Cowan, and to find a 4th liner that fits better that role, especially since you'd probably still have a good chunk of cap space.

 

[LaPlante94]

Reunite this duo in Toronto:

Idk why I thought Marchment had a cap hit of 6 mil. 1 year at 4.5 isn't too bad. I saw a Stars fan mention something about a Marchment for Robertson trade but I would hope they are adding a pick or something to the deal for us taking on his contract they desperately need to get rid of.

 

[OVO16]

Doesn't seem completely unreasonable. I'd prefer a better/young player over Burns, like Fabbro for example, but could be ok? It has to be one of the oldest defensive cores of the cap era though, which doesn't mean bad but definitely not great.

I like the Mangiapane short-term signing, but not sure it would fit if the idea is for him to play 4th line minutes. Probably would be at least playing over Cowan, and to find a 4th liner that fits better that role, especially since you'd probably still have a good chunk of cap space.

I guess the idea was to maintain cap space for the following season when the free agent crop is better.

If we do end up having more cap space, then maybe someone like Joel Armia wouldn't hurt, assuming Cowan still needs one more year in the AHL. Or a Taylor Raddish

 

[rumman]

For fun, here's my off-season. Hate away

1. Marner, Lorentz and Pacioretty Walks
2. Re-Sign Knies & Tavares
3. Trade/Waive both Kampf & Jarnkrok for low level picks
4. TRADE: Nick Robertson for Mason Marchment (1 for 1. Dallas needs to clear Salary)
5. TRADE: Pontus Holmberg + Simon Benoit for Ross Colton
6. FREE AGENT SIGNINGS: Andrew Mangiapane, Tanner Jeannot & Brent Burns (short term deals, especially for Burns)

Lineup:

Matthew Knies - Auston Mathews - William Nylander
Mason Marchment - John Tavares - Max Domi
Bobby McMann - Ross Colton - Easton Cowan
Tanner Jeannot - Scott Laughton - Andrew Mangiapane

Morgan Rielly - Brandon Carlo
Jake McCabe - Chris Tanev
Ekman-Larson - Brent Burns
Phillipe Myers

Why let Lorentz and Patches walk? They might not be the solution, but they’re not the problem. Both very cost effective?

 

[OVO16]

Why let Lorentz and Patches walk? They might not be the solution, but they’re not the problem. Both very cost effective?

They were fine but i replaced them with higher Upside and offensive players. Which is needed with Marner gone in this scenario of mine.

Pacioretty is also on the verge of retirement and is extremely injury prone

 

[rumman]

They were fine but i replaced them with higher Upside and offensive players. Which is needed with Marner gone in this scenario of mine.

Pacioretty is also on the verge of retirement and is extremely injury prone

I’ll give you that Patches is injury prone, but it didn’t stop him from being one of our most physical players and therein lies the problem……..

 

[Menzinger]

As much as people say Duchene isn’t the right fit for this team, he is one of the few legitimate top-nine centers available and I’d be surprised if the Leafs aren’t showing interest.

I get the vibe he's looking for a US market.

I'd agree he'd be worth pursuing if he's interested though

 

[Americanadian]

Idk why I thought Marchment had a cap hit of 6 mil. 1 year at 4.5 isn't too bad. I saw a Stars fan mention something about a Marchment for Robertson trade but I would hope they are adding a pick or something to the deal for us taking on his contract they desperately need to get rid of.

the issue is there will be 15 teams lining up to take on a 6’4 20+ goal scorer for 1 year at 4.5M. Dallas will probably be able to get a 2nd for him from some team.

 

[Menzinger]

This is the strategy I hope they follow rather than panic signing some of the so-so guys this free agency class to long term deals.

And focus on dumping a good portion of the depth forwards. Need to spend the money better than Jarnkrok, Kampf, Reaves, and probably Domi

 

[rumman]

This is the strategy I hope they follow rather than panic signing some of the so-so guys this free agency class to long term deals.

And focus on dumping a good portion of the depth forwards. Need to spend the money better than Jarnkrok, Kampf, Reaves, and probably Domi

I’d be happy if all these guys were playing elsewhere next season…….

 

[SprDaVE]

This is the strategy I hope they follow rather than panic signing some of the so-so guys this free agency class to long term deals.

And focus on dumping a good portion of the depth forwards. Need to spend the money better than Jarnkrok, Kampf, Reaves, and probably Domi

The biggest priority is definitely clearing the slate as much as possible. You can't change the core and DNA of this team by keeping all the average and junk players.

I think there are a few players that I'd target that I wouldn't mind if they got term. Fabbro and Suter would be a few of the ones I could see a bit of term since they are under 30 and had some good seasons for the most part. But at the end of the day, you always want to be responsible so we'll see. There are always a few incredible pick-ups for cheap, so I'm hoping we can continue to find more Benoit, Stolarz and Lorentz type players.

 

[Dreakmur]

I think it’s absolutely necessary to keep Matthews and Nylander split up to run their own lines. Surround each with players that will bring the best out of them.

For Matthews, he seems to play best when he’s flanked by higher energy guys. He has played his best hockey alongside guys like Domi, Bertuzzi, Hyman, etc. I think the easiest solution is to use who we have and flank him with Matthew Knies and Max Domi.

Nylander needs a two-way center. There are 4 tier-1 options that are likely available for the right price - Phillip Danault, William Karlsson, Jean-Gabriel Pageau, and Mikael Granlund. If none of them can be acquired, we have some tier-2 options - Mikael Backlund, Erik Haula, Ross Colton. The left winger ideally has some wheels and skill!

The most attainable way to build an effective 3rd line would be to bring back Tavares and surround him with big bodies to dominate the cycle game.


I think Vegas lands Marner, which means they need two things… unload some salary and acquire cheap scoring. A trade of Bobby McMann for William Karlsson accomplishes both of those.

The Nick Robertson for Mason Marchment trade just makes so much sense for both sides. It’s hard to imagine it doesn’t actually happen.

That leaves us with:
Knies-Matthews-Domi
_____-Karlsson-Nylander
Marchment-Tavares-_____
_____-Laughton-_____

Holmberg slots in somewhere or preferably gets dealt in a package for something else.

If we drop Kampf and Jarnkrok, that leaves about 10 million to fill those 4 winger spots.

 

[SprDaVE]

I think it’s absolutely necessary to keep Matthews and Nylander split up to run their own lines. Surround each with players that will bring the best out of them.

For Matthews, he seems to play best when he’s flanked by higher energy guys. He has played his best hockey alongside guys like Domi, Bertuzzi, Hyman, etc. I think the easiest solution is to use who we have and flank him with Matthew Knies and Max Domi.

Nylander needs a two-way center. There are 4 tier-1 options that are likely available for the right price - Phillip Danault, William Karlsson, Jean-Gabriel Pageau, and Mikael Granlund. If none of them can be acquired, we have some tier-2 options - Mikael Backlund, Erik Haula, Ross Colton. The left winger ideally has some wheels and skill!

The most attainable way to build an effective 3rd line would be to bring back Tavares and surround him with big bodies to dominate the cycle game.


I think Vegas lands Marner, which means they need two things… unload some salary and acquire cheap scoring. A trade of Bobby McMann for William Karlsson accomplishes both of those.

The Nick Robertson for Mason Marchment trade just makes so much sense for both sides. It’s hard to imagine it doesn’t actually happen.

That leaves us with:
Knies-Matthews-Domi
_____-Karlsson-Nylander
Marchment-Tavares-_____
_____-Laughton-_____

Holmberg slots in somewhere or preferably gets dealt in a package for something else.

If we drop Kampf and Jarnkrok, that leaves about 10 million to fill those 4 winger spots.

Mangiapane for 2nd LW. Appleton for 3rd RW. Jeannott for 4th RW. Lorentz for 4th LW. I don't think you'll need more than 10M for those 4 players, especially Lorentz being close to league min. Holmberg 13th forward. Kunin and/or Tanev could be an alternative targets for the 4th line.

 

[Americanadian]

I think it’s absolutely necessary to keep Matthews and Nylander split up to run their own lines. Surround each with players that will bring the best out of them.

For Matthews, he seems to play best when he’s flanked by higher energy guys. He has played his best hockey alongside guys like Domi, Bertuzzi, Hyman, etc. I think the easiest solution is to use who we have and flank him with Matthew Knies and Max Domi.

Nylander needs a two-way center. There are 4 tier-1 options that are likely available for the right price - Phillip Danault, William Karlsson, Jean-Gabriel Pageau, and Mikael Granlund. If none of them can be acquired, we have some tier-2 options - Mikael Backlund, Erik Haula, Ross Colton. The left winger ideally has some wheels and skill!

The most attainable way to build an effective 3rd line would be to bring back Tavares and surround him with big bodies to dominate the cycle game.


I think Vegas lands Marner, which means they need two things… unload some salary and acquire cheap scoring. A trade of Bobby McMann for William Karlsson accomplishes both of those.

The Nick Robertson for Mason Marchment trade just makes so much sense for both sides. It’s hard to imagine it doesn’t actually happen.

That leaves us with:
Knies-Matthews-Domi
_____-Karlsson-Nylander
Marchment-Tavares-_____
_____-Laughton-_____

Holmberg slots in somewhere or preferably gets dealt in a package for something else.

If we drop Kampf and Jarnkrok, that leaves about 10 million to fill those 4 winger spots.

Jeannot-Laughton-Raddysh would be a fun 4th line. 2 wingers who've scored 20 goals in the past and a 40 point C. I imagine that Jeannot will be 2M+ and Raddysh 2M+ though.

 

[Magic Man]

Similar to how Treliving targeted and gave Reaves the richest UFA contract offer a couple years ago. I think he will target Jeannot this summer and get him locked up long term. Reaves is done and Jeannot would solidify the position, even if he is given more than he is worth.

 

[Americanadian]

Similar to how Treliving targeted and gave Reaves the richest UFA contract offer a couple years ago. I think he will target Jeannot this summer and get him locked up long term. Reaves is done and Jeannot would solidify the position, even if he is given more than he is worth.

It'll probably look similar to the Miles Wood/William Carrier/LOC contracts.

 

[OVO16]

Tanner Jeannot is a much younger and better version of Reaves. Would also eliminate the need to rotate in tough guys every year on the 4th line.

Jeannot is your prototypical "tough guy" in today's league. Would love lock him in for the next 4/5 years. Brings incredible swagger and other on ice intangibles outside of just toughness.

 

[Dreakmur]

Mangiapane for 2nd LW. Appleton for 3rd RW. Jeannott for 4th RW. Lorentz for 4th LW. I don't think you'll need more than 10M for those 4 players, especially Lorentz being close to league min. Holmberg 13th forward. Kunin and/or Tanev could be an alternative targets for the 4th line.

That's a pretty good mix.

Mangiapagne would be an alright bargain on the 2nd line, but I think that line needs some grit to be fully effective. The main benefit is that he would likely outproduce his contract, which we do need.

That LW2 slot is the trickiest IMO. Outside of Brad Marchand, who we can't afford, I don't see any good fits on the UFA market. Jamie Benn maybe.

To get the ideal player, we'll have to make a trade. Blake Coleman, Eeli Tolvanen, or Lawson Crouse would all be perfect... but we don't exactly have a pile of assets to deal.

Maybe Mangiapagne is the best option....