Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[TMLAM34]

69 goals in a regular season would be the best of anyone or 50 goals in 50 games.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I know it won’t be done, but I’d build around Knies. Trade Matthews and Nylander…I know I’m stupid, crazy, and idiot, etc. To me, you’re not winning the cup w Matthews. Just don’t think he’s that type of player willing to do whatever it takes to win. Win at all costs. I’m not saying he’s not good or talented, it’s the competitive side/the “dawg” in him or should say lack there of. I’d seriously look into it. Same w Nylander, but more so Matthews because you could get a haul and help w the cap situation.

You aren't stupid at all. They all need to go, including Matthews and Nylander.

However, with no draft picks until the Sun engulfs the Earth, we have no choice but to pretend to compete until we get our picks back. You can't rebuild without picks.

 

[MajorLeaf]

Eichel likel will only be going up 2 million or 3 with the tax break. The cap will be going up 7. They don’t have any big players to sign I don’t think that year.

Why would Petro be a miracle? Has he really fallen off?

He would come here. With a NMC he would have lots of control. Wonder if that would work.

If they want to move off Petro and he wants to come here.

Marner for the 8th year plus what?

He hasn’t fallen off, but was not the same as in years past. Being 35 with some regression with a $8.8 million cap hit and NMC will make it difficult for Vegas to move. They cannot retain either as the only reason to move would be for salary cap reasons.

That said, Marner is not looking for the 8th year anyway and it’s a moot point now.

 

[TheScandal89]

With the Stars super tight to the cap next season, with a lot of pending UFAs. I wonder if they have to unload a guy like Marchment. Perhaps they'd have interest in uniting the Robertson brothers. Obviously would take more then just Nick, but it's an interesting thought. Mason hasn't been the great playoff performer, but he definitely has the size and play style that we are looking for.

According to capwages, they have 1.95 million in cap space with Benn, Duchene and Granlund, among others as UFAs and only 8 forwards signed.

 

[Americanadian]

With the Stars super tight to the cap next season, with a lot of pending UFAs. I wonder if they have to unload a guy like Marchment. Perhaps they'd have interest in uniting the Robertson brothers. Obviously would take more then just Nick, but it's an interesting thought. Mason hasn't been the great playoff performer, but he definitely has the size and play style that we are looking for.

According to capwages, they have 1.95 million in cap space with Benn, Duchene and Granlund, among others as UFAs and only 8 forwards signed.

I'm going to guess the going rate for Marchment via trade is a 2nd. I'm also assuming (hoping) that they try to do right by the player and send him to a team he wants to go to given he signed with them right after his dad passed because of his relationship with Steve Spott. I would think FLA's 2nd (63OA) gets a trade done.

 

[JKG33]

With the Stars super tight to the cap next season, with a lot of pending UFAs. I wonder if they have to unload a guy like Marchment. Perhaps they'd have interest in uniting the Robertson brothers. Obviously would take more then just Nick, but it's an interesting thought. Mason hasn't been the great playoff performer, but he definitely has the size and play style that we are looking for.

According to capwages, they have 1.95 million in cap space with Benn, Duchene and Granlund, among others as UFAs and only 8 forwards signed.

I was coming here to say the same thing. Marchment isnt overly expensive (in terms of cap and likely trade cost), but hes a luxury Dallas can no longer afford.

He's exactly what this team needs more of in the middle 6.

I dunno how interested they'd be in Robertson, he's basically waiver fodder and I wouldnt be surprised if they traded away their own Robertson to re-allocate some cap and assets towards defence

 

[rumman]

You aren't stupid at all. They all need to go, including Matthews and Nylander.

However, with no draft picks until the Sun engulfs the Earth, we have no choice but to pretend to compete until we get our picks back. You can't rebuild without picks.

I wouldn’t wait on the sun……..

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I wouldn’t wait on the sun……..

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It's going to turn this planet into lava and then (probably; Mercury and Venus definitely, us maybe) swallow it whole

it's going to be AWESOME

 

[Tony Romo]

If the Knies numbers are accurate, either should be done yesterday. Unless they're trying to wiggle it down to 7m-7.5m for paying him all in bonuses.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

If the Knies numbers are accurate, either should be done yesterday. Unless they're trying to wiggle it down to 7m-7.5m for paying him all in bonuses.

Id do 8x8 for Knies yesterday.

 

[rumman]

If the Knies numbers are accurate, either should be done yesterday. Unless they're trying to wiggle it down to 7m-7.5m for paying him all in bonuses.

No movement clause please and thank you……

 

[TheScandal89]

I was coming here to say the same thing. Marchment isnt overly expensive (in terms of cap and likely trade cost), but hes a luxury Dallas can no longer afford.

He's exactly what this team needs more of in the middle 6.

I dunno how interested they'd be in Robertson, he's basically waiver fodder and I wouldnt be surprised if they traded away their own Robertson to re-allocate some cap and assets towards defence

Only reason being the connection to his brother, and hoping they can get 20 goals out of a guy for a low cap hit to replace Marchment. I could see them trading Jason though since he doesn't have any clauses and they got Rantanen.

 

[SprDaVE]

If the Knies numbers are accurate, either should be done yesterday. Unless they're trying to wiggle it down to 7m-7.5m for paying him all in bonuses.

Id do 8x8 for Knies yesterday.

We have to get him to sign for 8 years. 8M seems like the high end for his recent production so I'm hoping it's a bit lower but at least it's in the ballpark and you finally have someone that can exceed that cap hit in a few years, if not by next year. A bridge deal just so you can sign some overpaid mediocre UFA isn't going to cut it.

Time for these players that actually want to be here show that they want to be here instead of milking every single penny over commitment.

 

[SprDaVE]

I was coming here to say the same thing. Marchment isnt overly expensive (in terms of cap and likely trade cost), but hes a luxury Dallas can no longer afford.

He's exactly what this team needs more of in the middle 6.

I dunno how interested they'd be in Robertson, he's basically waiver fodder and I wouldnt be surprised if they traded away their own Robertson to re-allocate some cap and assets towards defence

They'll have a few interested suitors for Marchment. I feel like with another disappointed end to their season they'll definitely look at being aggressive in changing up their team.

I originally came up with the idea of flipping Robertson for him, it makes some form of sense, but I have no idea of the market value of either player. All I know is that Robertson has some value to a team out there, no doubt in my mind, and that Dallas will look at shedding cap space.

 

[TheScandal89]

They'll have a few interested suitors for Marchment. I feel like with another disappointed end to their season they'll definitely look at being aggressive in changing up their team.

I originally came up with the idea of flipping Robertson for him, it makes some form of sense, but I have no idea of the market value of either player. All I know is that Robertson has some value to a team out there, no doubt in my mind, and that Dallas will look at shedding cap space.

Might take Robertson + 2nd or later pick for Marchment + later pick then we give, if the bidding war gets a lot of suitors.

 

[Tony Romo]

We have to get him to sign for 8 years. 8M seems like the high end for his recent production so I'm hoping it's a bit lower but at least it's in the ballpark and you finally have someone that can exceed that cap hit in a few years, if not by next year. A bridge deal just so you can sign some overpaid mediocre UFA isn't going to cut it.

Time for these players that actually want to be here show that they want to be here instead of milking every single penny over commitment.

What would you consider a bit of a discount for Knies on a 8 year term?

 

[SprDaVE]

Might take Robertson + 2nd or later pick for Marchment + later pick then we give, if the bidding war gets a lot of suitors.

I would not give up a lot to get Marchment. He's got 1 year left and likely will command more on his next deal. He's a playoff dud every year, which is what the Leafs have enough of. I think he can help bolster our mid-lines and add a little more size with a scoring touch, but I'd only really go for it if the price to acquire is low enough.

 

[SprDaVE]

What would you consider a bit of a discount for Knies on a 8 year term?

6M to 6.5M on an 8 year deal would be a discount I think. 7M would be the sweet spot. 7.5M is market value. 8M is high end.

7M would be 7.3% cap hit. Matt Boldy 2 years ago signed a 7 year 7M contract for 8% cap hit. I think he's the closest comparable to Knies but he had more production I think.

 

[Tony Romo]

6M to 6.5M on an 8 year deal would be a discount I think. 7M would be the sweet spot. 7.5M is market value. 8M is high end.

It hasn't aged well, but I kind of like the Meier contract as a comp. So that's why I like 8m.

I think Knies at his peak can probably be an 80 point player. He probably would've got 30-30 this year or more assists if Matthews wasn't hurt all year. But anything 7.5m and under is just really nice.

 

[SprDaVE]

It hasn't aged well, but I kind of like the Meier contract as a comp. So that's why I like 8m.

I think Knies at his peak can probably be an 80 point player. He probably would've got 30-30 this year or more assists if Matthews wasn't hurt all year. But anything 7.5m and under is just really nice.

Yeah I added an edit for a comparable. I think you need to get his cap hit percentage below 8%. 8M for 8 years is a 8.3%. That's too high for his production... but hey, at least it's 8 years.

Guenther is another comparable. 8 years for 7.1M.

 

[Americanadian]

My off-season as of today (will change by the end of today):

I am assuming the 3 big players with NMC's will not be asked to move (Rielly, Matthews, Nylander).

Trades:
Marner to Team X for 2026 3rd - Guentzel trade replicated, Leafs need all draft capital they can get

FLA 25 2nd (63OA)+Villeneuve to NSH for Barron - Leafs shift back to 3LD/3RD. Barron is a perfect 3RD for this team. He has offensive flair, he's one of the fastest skaters in the league. I am not sure Nashville moves him but I'm hoping this package would be enough.

Benoit+Holmberg to COL for Colton - Colorado likely brings in a C whether that be Nelson or Granlund or Gourde. They have 1-3LW of Lehkonen, Drouin, Landeskog and 1-3 RW of Necas, Nuke, LOC. Colton will be the odd man out and they could use the cap space. They currently have 2 NHL LD and 3 RD. Benoit would be a perfect fit at 3LD alongside Malinski. Holmberg slides in at 4LW. He won a SHL championship on Drury's wing. Maybe thats a combination that works for COL.

McMann+Woll to NJD for Mercer+26 4th - NJD are built for the future and could use a future 1G. Markstrom was good but not great for them and he's now a pending UFA. Keefe has familiarity with Woll although I'm not sure if that's a positive or negative given his injury history under Keefe. McMann is a good player but pending UFA who didn't score in the playoffs. Alongside Woll he's probably the best tradeable asset the Leafs have. Mercer is a prime buy-low candidate. He is only 23 and has a 27G/56P season. He has now had 2 down seasons since then but has still scored 39 goals over those seasons. He would also be the only RS F alongside Nylander on the Leafs. I'm assuming the value here is equal.

Domi+Robertson to CHI for Brossoit - Soderblom was actually good for Chicago this year which removes the need for Brossoit. Brossoit also missed the entire year so he's gone from being viewed as a Stolarz equivalent to a big question mark. They have familiarity with Domi already and they can replicate the Domi/Bertuzzi magic that we saw at the end of he 2023-24 season. Robertson is a throw in.

Kampf to LAK for future considerations - LAK need a 4C badly. They didn't use their 4th line in the playoffs.

Jarnkrok to PIT for future considerations - I'm hoping Dubas takes his guy for free. PIT has plenty of cap space.

UFA:
Bennett 8.5Mx7 - I am usually very anti-overpay but the Leafs are going to enter a rebuild as soon as Matthews leaves in 2028 so they might as well get the best players they can for the next 3 years.
Raddysh 2.5Mx3 - Offensively inclined 3/4RW. He can slide down to 4RW and give you a good line of Lorentz-Laughton-Raddysh that might be able to actually provide offense or he can be a 3rd cog on a Tavares lead 3rd line.
Roslovic 3Mx1 - Offensively inclined C/RW. He played with Matthews in junior. He has had decent NHL production including a couple 20 goal season and a couple 40 point seasons. My hope here is to staple him to Matthews and we get a similar situation to Drouin/MacKinnon. Knies/Matthews are both primarily shoot first players, I believe Roslovic can put up good production as a passing option on RW with them.
Tavares 4.5Mx3 - I don't want to bring him back but you won't find his production for anywhere close to the rumored contract ask.
Lorentz 1Mx2 - He was a perfectly fine 4LW and had chemistry with Laughton. Bring him back and find a better 4RW.

RFA:
Knies 6.5Mx3 - A bridge deal makes the most sense. Get his cap hit as low as possible while Matthews is on his current deal. Once the Matthews' deal expires you can sign him to the full 8 years at whatever cap hit he wants OR you can flip him as an RFA if the Leafs go into a full rebuild.

Offer Sheet:
Gage Goncalves 2.34Mx1 (TOR 26 3rd)- This is a shot in the dark. Tampa won't have a ton of cap room and they'll be looking to fill their 3rd line wing roles. Goncalves is an interesting player for 3LW alongside Tavares. He put up 4 points in 5 playoff games for Tampa. This is the same offer sheet tier that was used for Holloway.

Roster:

(excuse the logos next to the new players names, I never updated the players team after the start of the 23-24 season)

In: Bennett, Roslovic, Raddysh, Colton, Mercer, Brossoit, Goncalves, Barron, Team X 26 3rd, NJD 26 4th

Out: Marner, Domi, McMann, Woll, Benoit, Holmberg, Robertson, Kampf, Janrkrok, Villeneuve, FLA 25 2nd (63OA), TOR 26 3rd

 

[TheScandal89]

I made my unrealistic, probably won't happen line up on cap wages. Its assuming knies signs 7.25, Bennett signs 7.5, Tavares signs 6.25, Tanev signs 2.25, and Lorentz signs 1.0 and we get rid of Kampf and Jarnkrok. I added Marchment as a trade candidate aswell.

Defense is the same mainly but I added Villeneuve and Myers as extras.

Knies - Matthews - Nylander
Marchment - Bennett - Domi
McMann - Tavares - Cowan/PTO
Lorentz - Laughton - Tanev
Reaves

 

[The Masters]

 

[TML Dynasty]

What is Mcmann's potential? Has he reached ceiling? I struggle to keep him in my lineups as Id love to upgrade but if he's going to improve Id hate to lose the cap savings by keeping him.

Domi too? Im not sure theres a better fit for his cap hit.

 

[weems]

Just looking at shooting talent above average (120 mins) and all the names make sense but Kuzmenko's name was a surprise.

Is this guy any good?