Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Maplebeasts]

Cuylle is 23 and Knies is 22 with similar numbers and playing style. Would you trade Nylander for Knies?

Young power forwards like Knies, Tkatchuk (at the time in CGY) and Cuylle are hot commodities that would take overpayment to pry from the team.

I wouldn't trade 2023-2025 Nylander for 2025 Knies. Nylander's offense is just too good. However assuming Knies continues to improve I think he has a chance of being nearly as valuable as peak Nylander is.

 

[MajorLeaf]

I wouldn't trade 2023-2025 Nylander for 2025 Knies. Nylander's offense is just too good. However assuming Knies continues to improve I think he has a chance of being nearly as valuable as peak Nylander is.

I understand what you are saying. Nylander hasn’t moved the needle for this core in years and the DNA needs changing for this team.

Although the goals would be missed with the Leafs it may end up being better long term with 2 power forwards that can score 20+ goals per season. Just my thoughts.

 

[ULF_55]

I understand what you are saying. Nylander hasn’t moved the needle for this core in years and the DNA needs changing for this team.

Although the goals would be missed w the Leags May end up being better long term with 2 power forwards that can score 20+ goals per season. Just my thoughts.

Matthews hasn't moved the needle for this core, and we have to wonder if he's already chronic?

All academic anyway, as it appears the Core is No More.

 

[TMLAM34]

Not a big name, but what are peoples thoughts on Adam Gaudette? He had a solid season in Ottawa and I was pretty impressed in the playoffs. Would be a great signing for the 4th line RW spot.

 

[uncleben]

Not a big name, but what are peoples thoughts on Adam Gaudette? He had a solid season in Ottawa and I was pretty impressed in the playoffs. Would be a great signing for the 4th line RW spot.

I mean, for a sub $1M contract, sure

We signed him a couple of years ago, but he didn't crack the club

 

[Leaffan1991]

Willy for Cuylle plus Kreider.
Sign Bennett
Tanev
Jeannot

Knies Matthews Domi
Cuylle Bennett Cowan
Kreider Tavares McMann
Jeannot Laughton Tanev

 

[SprDaVE]

Not a big name, but what are peoples thoughts on Adam Gaudette? He had a solid season in Ottawa and I was pretty impressed in the playoffs. Would be a great signing for the 4th line RW spot.

I mean, for a sub $1M contract, sure

We signed him a couple of years ago, but he didn't crack the club

Yeah I mean he might be worth the look. He exploded a bit this year and he did look good in a depth role for them. But he's not worth much more than he is now. I'd be shocked if he doesn't get another look in Ottawa but he might be looking for a little more.

There are a bunch of players in the same mold. Ottawa has some decent depth players like Highmore, Crookshank and Reinhart hitting UFA. Carcone, Lind, Burke and Imama are other forwards I'd look at for depth/Marlies call-ups. Maybe you find your own cheap Gaudette in there.

 

[WillNy29]

Oops, my bad, but doesn’t the same comment apply to Marchment? I hated losing him to that idiotic trade by Boy Wonder……..

everyone loves other team's playoff duds for some reason

 

[Americanadian]

Willy for Cuylle plus Kreider.
Sign Bennett
Tanev
Jeannot

Knies Matthews Domi
Cuylle Bennett Cowan
Kreider Tavares McMann
Jeannot Laughton Tanev

Not a single player listed shoots right.

 

[Americanadian]

Mercer would be an interesting buy-low candidate. I wonder if NJ takes Woll+McMann for Mercer or Mercer+.

 

[MajorLeaf]

Looking at the draft picks and “top” prospects not certain the Leafs can offer much in trade this off-season for impactful players via trade other than Cowan maybe and roster players.

2025 Draft
2nd round - Panthers pick
3rd round - Avalanche pick
5th round - Leafs
5th round - Penguins
6 & 7 rounds - Leafs

2026 Draft
3rd round - Leafs
5th round - Leafs
6th round - Sharks
7th round - Stars

2027 Draft
2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 rounds - Leafs
6th round - Flyers

Prospects:
Easton Cowan
Ben Danford

It will be interesting to see what Treliving will be able to accomplish this off-season.

 

[JTBT1227]

Matthews hasn't moved the needle for this core, and we have to wonder if he's already chronic?

All academic anyway, as it appears the Core is No More.

I know it won’t be done, but I’d build around Knies. Trade Matthews and Nylander…I know I’m stupid, crazy, and idiot, etc. To me, you’re not winning the cup w Matthews. Just don’t think he’s that type of player willing to do whatever it takes to win. Win at all costs. I’m not saying he’s not good or talented, it’s the competitive side/the “dawg” in him or should say lack there of. I’d seriously look into it. Same w Nylander, but more so Matthews because you could get a haul and help w the cap situation.

 

[LaPlante94]

It sucks we're pretty weak on right shot defenders because I feel a trade based around Carlo and Harley could be good for both teams. They desperately need RD and we could use a younger puck moving d man who can run the PP. Carlo at 3.4 mil for the next 2 years helps them a lot too since Harley is probably gonna get quite the pay raise.

 

[Dreakmur]

It sucks we're pretty weak on right shot defenders because I feel a trade based around Carlo and Harley could be good for both teams. They desperately need RD and we could use a younger puck moving d man who can run the PP. Carlo at 3.4 mil for the next 2 years helps them a lot too since Harley is probably gonna get quite the pay raise.

Trading a 23 year old #1 defenseman for Brendan Carlo would be “good for both teams”?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Here is a question with Lane Lambert now the new coach of the Kraken who replaces him as the associate coach?

I don't know if he's under contract or not but I'd like it to be Marc Crawford, I like the idea of 2 guys with head coaching experience on a staff and if they both have rings even better.

 

[LaPlante94]

Trading a 23 year old #1 defenseman for Brendan Carlo would be “good for both teams”?

When you got Heiskanen and Lindell as your other 2 LD then yes. When you got Dumba and Lybushkin as your top 2 RD then yes. Carlo is only 28 and cheap and the perfect partner for Heiskanen. Stop acting like I said Carlo for Harley straight up.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Looking at the draft picks and “top” prospects not certain the Leafs can offer much in trade this off-season for impactful players via trade other than Cowan maybe and roster players.

2025 Draft
2nd round - Panthers pick
3rd round - Avalanche pick
3rd round - Oilers pick
5th round - Leafs
5th round - Penguins
6 & 7 rounds - Leafs

2026 Draft
3rd round - Leafs
5th round - Leafs
6th round - Sharks
7th round - Stars

2027 Draft
2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 rounds - Leafs
6th round - Flyers

Prospects:
Easton Cowan

Ben Danford

It will be interesting to see what Treliving will be able to accomplish this off-season.

They don't have the Oilers 2025 3rd

 

[Dreakmur]

When you got Heiskanen and Lindell as your other 2 LD then yes. When you got Dumba and Lybushkin as your top 2 RD then yes. Carlo is only 28 and cheap and the perfect partner for Heiskanen.

Both Lindell and Harley on their wrong side are better than Carlo. Slide one over before you make a horrible trade.

Stop acting like I said Carlo for Harley straight up.

It’s not even like Carlo + is a reasonable offer. Carlo would be the secondary piece in a trade for Harley.

Think Knies+Carlo for Harley.

 

[Legion34]

Vegas is not going to trade Karlsson for Marner’s rights. It would be surprising to see Vegas consider Marner given their cap constraints and their number one priority is to extend Eichel this off season.

If anything, Vegas will most like try to trade Pietrangelo by some miracle and Hague RFA rights for a young winger in the $4million or below range to fit their cap.

NY Rangers will not take on Rielly for Kreider because they are tight under the cap and have to sign Will Cuylle (he is like Knies) young power forward to an extension. The Rangers need to free up cap space so he doesn’t get offer sheet, so taking back Rielly is a pipe dream.

At this time, don’t see the Leafs trading with either team and more realistic options will have to be reviewed by management.

Eichel likel will only be going up 2 million or 3 with the tax break. The cap will be going up 7. They don’t have any big players to sign I don’t think that year.

Why would Petro be a miracle? Has he really fallen off?

He would come here. With a NMC he would have lots of control. Wonder if that would work.

If they want to move off Petro and he wants to come here.

Marner for the 8th year plus what?

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Free agent wish list in order of preference:

1) Marchand
2) Bennett
3) Perry
4) Provorov
5) Fabbro
6) Tanev

 

[Commander Clueless]

John Shannon believes Sam Bennett will only consider Leafs, Panthers in free agency

So assuming the "talk about all the possible teams and then add Toronto for clicks" standard is in play, he is only considering Florida?

Makes sense.

 

[rumman]

No taxes so all their contracts have better cap hits

When your up to your neck in shit complaining about the smell does little to improve the situation imo……..

 

[rumman]

Matthews hasn't moved the needle for this core, and we have to wonder if he's already chronic?

All academic anyway, as it appears the Core is No More.

Thank God 34 is a greedy boy or we could have signed him to max term, I’m thankful to have dodged that bullet……..

 

[Americanadian]

Thank God 34 is a greedy boy or we could have signed him to max term, I’m thankful to have dodged that bullet……..

There was a lot of complaints about him signing for 4 years on his last deal but that was actually best case scenario with the Leafs. If they don’t win by the end of that contract they can walk away and not be stuck with an anchor of a contract well into Matthews’ 30s.

 

[rumman]

There was a lot of complaints about him signing for 4 years on his last deal but that was actually best case scenario with the Leafs. If they don’t win by the end of that contract they can walk away and not be stuck with an anchor of a contract well into Matthews’ 30s.

Unfortunately I think we’ve seen the best 34 has to offer, the only question is will it be a sliw decline or a drop off a cliff……