Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Rare Jewel]

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Bennett is going to have one ugly contract. Stay away.


As for the other fella, I think that picture is as close as you'll get to seeing him in blue and white for a while.

 

[Mosby]

Utah doesn’t seem to like McBain. They keep jamming him on the 4th line. Cooley and Hayton are their 1/2 at center. Then they used Stenlund, Kerfoot, and Bjugstad just as much as McBain after that.

We love him, but he's a fourth liner. And a good one at that.

Utah next year:

Keller Cooley Guenther
But TBD TBD
Crouse Hayton Doan
Kerfoot Stenlund McBain

And in two years:

Keller Cooley Guenther
But TBD TBD
Iginla Hayton Doan
Crouse Beaudoin McBain

TBD to be filled with the 4th overall pick and a UFA winger.

Available forwards this summer I suspect are Nick Schmaltz and Matias Maccelli.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Available forwards this summer I suspect are Nick Schmaltz and Matias Maccelli.

What do you think the ask would be for him?

 

[Mosby]

What do you think the ask would be for him?

Third rounder. He had 57 points in Arizona last year, but a big drop off this year. Mostly he lost his role in the top six as the team has improved, and he's not effective enough to handle a bottom six role. Because of that, he had a bunch of healthy scratches this season.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Third rounder. He had 57 points in Arizona last year, but a big drop off this year. Mostly he lost his role in the top six as the team has improved, and he's not effective enough to handle a bottom six role. Because of that, he had a bunch of healthy scratches this season.

I'd be doing that then. Could even throw in a depth player as well.

What's the opinion of Durzi for Utah fans? Could they look to move him as well this summer?

 

[Menzinger]

A top six centre has got to be Tres #1 focus, even if they plan on extending JT (his legs are making him better suited for a 3rd line wing + PP specialist).

Which circles back to the idea of Tre offering to take an expensive veteran off another teams hands for a mostly capspace return. I'm curious if he may inquire about Kadri from the Flames. He's got a history with him,.and with Shanny gone for good now, so goes the last remaining part of the front office that didn't care for the guy

Kadri's age and contract aren't exactly a desirable combo, but beggers with minimal assets can't always be choosers. And Tre obviously has no issue turning to vets for his depth player roles

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

To
Vegas
Marner extended for 8 years

To
Toronto
William Karlsson

To
Dallas
Robertson
2nd
3rd

To
Toronto
Marchment

Move Kampf, Jarnkrok for low picks.

Sign Ehlers 8.25 x 7, Jeannot 4x 2.75

Knies. Matthews. Domi
Ehlers. Karlsson. Nylander
Marchment. Tavares. Cowan
Jeannot. Laughton. Lorentz

Very solid forward group.

 

[Mosby]

I'd be doing that then. Could even throw in a depth player as well.

What's the opinion of Durzi for Utah fans? Could they look to move him as well this summer?

Durzi still has a role for now but things will get complicated at RD once Maveric Lamoureux becomes a full-timer. At that point, we'll have Marino, Durzi, Kesselring, and Lamoureux on the right side. I suspect Marino would be the one to go because his contract is up the soonest. Not out of the question that Durzi goes to LD too as he played some left D with the Kings.

Sergachev - Marino
Simashev - Durzi
Maatta - Kesselring
Cole - Lamoureux

Our D is pretty set long term.

 

[Rare Jewel]

A top six centre has got to be Tres #1 focus, even if they plan on extending JT (his legs are making him better suited for a 3rd line wing + PP specialist).

Which circles back to the idea of Tre offering to take an expensive veteran off another teams hands for a mostly capspace return. I'm curious if he may inquire about Kadri from the Flames. He's got a history with him,.and with Shanny gone for good now, so goes the last remaining part of the front office that didn't care for the guy

Kadri's age and contract aren't exactly a desirable combo, but beggers with minimal assets can't always be choosers. And Tre obviously has no issue turning to vets for his depth player roles

It is.

Donato seems like he could be a good fit, but I'm not sure how high to go on that one. Also, luring Americans up here isn't always as easy as they found out with Roy last summer.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Durzi still has a role for now but things will get complicated at RD once Maveric Lamoureux becomes a full-timer. At that point, we'll have Marino, Durzi, Kesselring, and Lamoureux on the right side. I suspect Marino would be the one to go because his contract is up the soonest. Not out of the question that Durzi goes to LD too as he played some left D with the Kings.

Sergachev - Marino
Simashev - Durzi
Maatta - Kesselring
Cole - Lamoureux

Our D is pretty set long term.

Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing.

Get a hold of Armstrong and let's send this Maccelli deal off.

 

[Mosby]

Last year, he was 10th in ice time, which is a 4th liner. He’s 5th in faceoffs taken.

The year before, he was 11th in ice time and 4th in faceoffs.

McBain is close to an extension in Utah per team owner Ryan Smith.

 

[Dreakmur]

We love him, but he's a fourth liner. And a good one at that.

Utah next year:

Keller Cooley Guenther
But TBD TBD
Crouse Hayton Doan
Kerfoot Stenlund McBain

And in two years:

Keller Cooley Guenther
But TBD TBD
Iginla Hayton Doan
Crouse Beaudoin McBain

TBD to be filled with the 4th overall pick and a UFA winger.

Available forwards this summer I suspect are Nick Schmaltz and Matias Maccelli.

If he’s a 4th liner, he should be available for a reasonable cost.

I think he’s more than that.

 

[Malachi Crunch]

A top six centre has got to be Tres #1 focus, even if they plan on extending JT (his legs are making him better suited for a 3rd line wing + PP specialist).

Which circles back to the idea of Tre offering to take an expensive veteran off another teams hands for a mostly capspace return. I'm curious if he may inquire about Kadri from the Flames. He's got a history with him,.and with Shanny gone for good now, so goes the last remaining part of the front office that didn't care for the guy

Kadri's age and contract aren't exactly a desirable combo, but beggers with minimal assets can't always be choosers. And Tre obviously has no issue turning to vets for his depth player roles

I like this Kadri idea. Out of all the centers people have been talking about, he's the most productive and has all of the intangibles we desperately need. He loves Toronto too, as we know. Also, he just had a 35-goal season, which is pretty amazing. He fits the timeline and, like you said, his opps are gone.

I wonder what it would cost though? Even though we would be taking a long, 7 million contract, Calgary has plenty of cap room. As long as it's not Cowan, I'd be in.

 

[Menzinger]

I like this Kadri idea. Out of all the centers people have been talking about, he's the most productive and has all of the intangibles we desperately need. He loves Toronto too, as we know. Also, he just had a 35-goal season, which is pretty amazing. He fits the timeline and, like you said, his opps are gone.

I wonder what it would cost though? Even though we would be taking a long, 7 million contract, Calgary has plenty of cap room. As long as it's not Cowan, I'd be in.

I'd bring him back purely for the entertainment value. Hard not to love the guy. If it works out on the ice even better.

Depends on how much they value him. Florida's 2nd + Danford might get their attention. Their ownership likes to penny pinch so I can see them enjoying losing a bit of real dollar salary.

 

[jaric1862]

Wondering if Mark Stone gets thrown overboard if Vegas takes a serious run at Marner.

 

[Mosby]

If he’s a 4th liner, he should be available for a reasonable cost.

I think he’s more than that.

We have no reason to trade him. He brings size, he fights, leadership, versatile as a wing and center, and is Utah's third-most used forward on the PK.

 

[Menzinger]

Wondering if Mark Stone gets thrown overboard if Vegas takes a serious run at Marner.

They have shown little hesitation in dumping guys to get what they want. If not Stone they'll probably be open to moving others. Worth keeping an eye on

 

[Rare Jewel]

Wondering if Mark Stone gets thrown overboard if Vegas takes a serious run at Marner.

I'd be curious to see who might pop out there, and if it could be tied to a sign and trade with Marner.

 

[Madap]

Last 3 playoffs….

Matthews 9 goals
Marchment 8 goals
Marner 6 goals

In how many games? What’s their +- by the way? Also, comparing them to the same guys we want to ship out is not a good argument.

Cherry pick whatever stats you want but anyone spends more than 1 minute on nhl.com will see this guy sucks at playoff hockey.

 

[aingefan]

As nice an idea as trying to get Karlsson for Marner’s rights is, seems unlikely.

Only two years, cap hits fine, teams have cap, centre market is weak, they’ll be able to move him.

 

[rielledup]

I don't see how anyone who is watching this fla carolina series can not be having some doubts about making big changes to this team. This is coming from someone who was all aboard not only the make big changes train but do a complete rebuild train just a week ago.

 

[HellasLEAF]

I think we should be very much in on Gavrikov.

And Mikael Granlund intrigues me.

 

[LaPlante94]

I don't see how anyone who is watching this fla carolina series can not be having some doubts about making big changes to this team. This is coming from someone who was all aboard not only the make big changes train but do a complete rebuild train just a week ago.

We haven't lost just to Florida and that's the problem. Was Boston, then TB and now Florida. We also lost to Montreal and Columbus.

 

[Dreakmur]

I don't see how anyone who is watching this fla carolina series can not be having some doubts about making big changes to this team. This is coming from someone who was all aboard not only the make big changes train but do a complete rebuild train just a week ago.

Unless the goal is to beat Carolina, it doesn’t matter.

Florida ran our show. We need to beat the elite, not the second tier teams.