Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[MarMarSab3]

I would be fine with these kind of additions. I think Coyle is underrated. Tanev I fully expect to be on the Leafs. Jeannott would be an interesting one for sure. Kastelic is whatever and hardly of note, just a face puncher and not that good. Bjugstad is whatever. I'd add Kunin to this list and also Appleton.

Jeannot Frederic B.Tanev is the 4th line I'm praying for next season

 

[SprDaVE]

Actually Kastelic had some of the best advanced stats. I understand he was playing against other 3rd and 4th liners, but if he can dominate his even that level, whats wrong with that?

That's fair then. Never really saw him more than that. But the problem is that he's not a free agent. He re-signed with Boston for 3 years after looking into his profile.

 

[TML Dynasty]

Marner leaves
Tavares re-signs for 3C $$
Trade: Reilly, Woll, Holmberg, Robertson, Kampf, Jarnkrok, Reaves

Knies Matthews Domi
Cowan _____ Nylander
Mcmann Tavares ____
_____ Laughton Lorentz

Mccabe Tanev
_____ Carlo
Benoit OEL
Myers

Stolarz
Hildeby

Gives almost 28m in cap space (with tavares 5 hildeby 1.2 Knies 7)

Maybe mix the people up a little but Im damn optimistic

 

[The Shadow]

Marner leaves
Tavares re-signs for 3C $$
Trade: Reilly, Woll, Holmberg, Robertson, Kampf, Jarnkrok, Reaves

Knies Matthews Domi
Cowan _____ Nylander
Mcmann Tavares ____
_____ Laughton Lorentz

Mccabe Tanev
_____ Carlo
Benoit OEL
Myers

Stolarz
Hildeby

Gives almost 28m in cap space (with tavares 5 hildeby 1.2)

Maybe mix the people up a little but Im damn optimistic

Cowan I think needs a year in the AHL at minimum. Knies came in as a 21 year old. Cowan is 19?

It’s not an easy market for a young player. Plus he clearly showed he was nowhere near ready this past training camp

Let him cook in the AHL. Don’t ruin this guy before he has a chance

 

[TML Dynasty]

Cowan I think needs a year in the AHL at minimum. Knies came in as a 21 year old. Cowan is 19?

It’s not an easy market for a young player. Plus he clearly showed he was nowhere near ready this past training camp

Let him cook in the AHL. Don’t ruin this guy before he has a chance

Yeah I agree, if he doesnt do well right away. But he gets a chance at a regular spot top 6 for sure. May surprise

 

[WTFMAN99]

Cowan I think needs a year in the AHL at minimum. Knies came in as a 21 year old. Cowan is 19?

It’s not an easy market for a young player. Plus he clearly showed he was nowhere near ready this past training camp

Let him cook in the AHL. Don’t ruin this guy before he has a chance

Yeah I agree, if he doesnt do well right away. But he gets a chance at a regular spot top 6 for sure. May surprise

Cowan turned 20 yesterday, it's not impossible for him to make the roster.

 

[notbias]

There isn't one this summer.

But you're not suggesting they just bring them all back, right?

Who am I kidding, of course you are....

I'm not, nice try though.

I'm suggesting they make changes to make the team better, faster, and more offensive since they can't score, fighting and being a rat are secondary.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I'm not, nice try though.

I'm suggesting they make changes to make the team better, faster, and more offensive since they can't score, fighting and being a rat are secondary.

And I agree with you about the offensive part, anyway; I think Marchand could be good in the right circumstances.


But how would you go about achieving that?

 

[notbias]

And I agree with you about the offensive part, anyway; I think Marchand could be good in the right circumstances.


But how would you go about achieving that?

The opposite of everyone here, focus on the offensive side and getting younger and faster over focusing on the toughness and everything else being secondary.

What that looks like in UFA? Not sure because the UFA class sucks.

What it looks like as a trade? Not sure because they have no assets.

I'd look at redemption projects and hope a few hit and the others are playable, Boeser being one in free agency, or look at teams who are tight against the cap and try to get a quality player instead of some bum like Marchment.

I'd also look at getting some D who can move the puck and a bottom 6 who can do more than just defend and has some speed.

Not too easy because we went so far in the other direction, and Tre is likely not going to undo their mistakes in one season, that D core is basically all retirement contracts right now, it'd be hard to make major changes there.

Didn't like when Dubas tried to go after toughness for the sake of toughness either or tried to go after defense when they were performing well, we have had issues for years with scoring, the bottom 6 this year was useless.

 

[Martin Skoula]

It’s not like getting faster happens in an offensive vacuum. Florida’s D didn’t have to worry about us because their forecheck kept us in our zone for minutes at a time and the odd time we tried to break out we had no one that could beat them on the dump and chase. Our defensive breakdowns mostly started in the neutral zone on our breakouts, that’s the number 1 problem that needs to be fixed. Tanev leading the playoffs in hits taken is fine but he can’t be almost 2x the next guy, that’s a clear symptom of a systematic breakdown.

 

[Rare Jewel]

The opposite of everyone here, focus on the offensive side and getting younger and faster over focusing on the toughness and everything else being secondary.

What that looks like in UFA? Not sure because the UFA class sucks.

What it looks like as a trade? Not sure because they have no assets.

I'd look at redemption projects and hope a few hit and the others are playable, Boeser being one in free agency, or look at teams who are tight against the cap and try to get a quality player instead of some bum like Marchment.

I'd also look at getting some D who can move the puck and a bottom 6 who can do more than just defend and has some speed.

Not too easy because we went so far in the other direction, and Tre is likely not going to undo their mistakes in one season, that D core is basically all retirement contracts right now, it'd be hard to make major changes there.

Didn't like when Dubas tried to go after toughness for the sake of toughness either or tried to go after defense when they were performing well, we have had issues for years with scoring, the bottom 6 this year was useless.

We have strikingly similar views on the situation.

Especially, with the reclamation project idea.

That's how Florida did it, essentially. They got Reinhart, Forsling, Montour, Verhaeghe and Bennett for a bunch of pucks.

 

[LaPlante94]

People are way too obsessed with this we need another PPG/100 point player to replace Marner if he leaves. No we don't.

 

[weems]

We have strikingly similar views on the situation.

Especially, with the reclamation project idea.

That's how Florida did it, essentially. They got Reinhart, Forsling, Montour, Verhaeghe and Bennett for a bunch of pucks.

Our pro scouting should be able to regularly find these types.

Our pro scouting has been awful for pretty much as long as I've followed the team.

What constitutes as a reclamation project at this point? Like Jonathan Drouin level? He surprisingly had 37pts in 43 games this year.

 

[SprDaVE]

Our pro scouting should be able to regularly find these types.

Our pro scouting has been awful for pretty much as long as I've followed the team.

What constitutes as a reclamation project at this point? Like Jonathan Drouin level? He surprisingly had 37pts in 43 games this year.

They are players that had successful years at some in their career and then get back to that, or perhaps were under appreciated elsewhere and thrived under a new environment in terms of efficiency or potential. Leafs have been ok at getting them. I would say the Panthers and Hurricanes are two of the best teams at unearthing those players.

Pacioretty and Lorentz were that to some degree from this past season, Simon Benoit had a good turn around after going unsigned by the Ducks. Klingberg and Murray were 2 other ones from the last couple years. We definitely didn't find a Luostarinen, Forsling or Mikkola in that way.

 

[weems]

They are players that had successful years at some in their career and then get back to that, or perhaps were under appreciated elsewhere and thrived under a new environment in terms of efficiency or potential. Leafs have been ok at getting them. I would say the Panthers and Hurricanes are two of the best teams at unearthing those players.

Pacioretty and Lorentz were that from this past season, Simon Benoit had a good turn around after going unsigned by the Ducks. Klingberg and Murray were 2 other ones from the last couple years. We definitely didn't find a Luostarinen, Rodrigues, Forsling or Mikkola in that way.

Isn't Fabbro a UFA this offseason? He probably fits this description.

 

[SprDaVE]

Isn't Fabbro a UFA this offseason? He probably fits this description.

He is and he did very well after being picked up on waivers by Columbus. If he makes it to free agency, I would definitely be very interested.

 

[Tony Romo]

People are way too obsessed with this we need another PPG/100 point player to replace Marner if he leaves. No we don't.

We need as many good players as possible. Our big boys basically matched their big boys. They got goals from the bottom 6 and defence.

If our big guys won’t show up, get as many good players as possible

 

[Duffman955]

That's fair then. Never really saw him more than that. But the problem is that he's not a free agent. He re-signed with Boston for 3 years after looking into his profile.

Didn't know he re-signed thanks

 

[Rare Jewel]

Our pro scouting should be able to regularly find these types.

Our pro scouting has been awful for pretty much as long as I've followed the team.

What constitutes as a reclamation project at this point? Like Jonathan Drouin level? He surprisingly had 37pts in 43 games this year.

They should; the last one they got was Bunting, probably. That was more similar to Verhaeghe than the others because neither had had very much NHL success prior.

It's interesting; Dallas has the kid Blumej there, and that's one I'd be looking at. He's a group 6 UFA

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[Skullz]

Bowen Bryam is available… bring him in and move out Rielly please.

 

[MarMarSab3]

He is and he did very well after being picked up on waivers by Columbus. If he makes it to free agency, I would definitely be very interested.

Benoit Fabbro is a nice 3rd pair

McCabe Tanev
OEL Carlo
Benoit Fabbro

 

[LaPlante94]

We need as many good players as possible. Our big boys basically matched their big boys. They got goals from the bottom 6 and defence.

If our big guys won’t show up, get as many good players as possible

We need players who can help our team play more in the offensive zone. For all the talented players we got the numbers I see on NHL Edge stats page going back as far as it can to 2021/22 season our offensive zone time is just not good enough for the money we spend on this top end talent.

2021/22 season was our best regular season for offensive zone time with 43.5% which was 90th percentile with the league average at 41.6%. Then during the playoffs we drop to 41.7% which was 53rd percentile.

2022/23 season we drop in the regular season to 42.3% which was 61st percentile and then the playoffs we drop to 39.7% which was below 50th percentile.

2023/24 season same pattern continues. 42.1 % during the regular season 58th percentile to 39.5% below the 50th percentile during the playoffs.

2024/25 season 40.9% below 50th percentile and then 39.0% below 50th percentile playoffs.

Some more speed might help too.

 

[Rare Jewel]

We need players who can help our team play more in the offensive zone. For all the talented players we got the numbers I see on NHL Edge stats page going back as far as it can to 2021/22 season our offensive zone time is just not good enough for the money we spend on this top end talent.

2021/22 season was our best regular season for offensive zone time with 43.5% which was 90th percentile with the league average at 41.6%. Then during the playoffs we drop to 41.7% which was 53rd percentile.

2022/23 season we drop in the regular season to 42.3% which was 61st percentile and then the playoffs we drop to 39.7% which was below 50th percentile.

2023/24 season same pattern continues. 42.1 % during the regular season 58th percentile to 39.5% below the 50th percentile during the playoffs.

2024/25 season 40.9% below 50th percentile and then 39.0% below 50th percentile playoffs.

Some more speed might help too.

And this is aided by getting defencemen who can bring the puck up the ice faster and more effectively. Watching McCabe and Tanev play hot potato with D to D passes is not the tonic.

The speed issue is why Ehlers is my preference if they do go and spend some significant money this summer.

 

[LaPlante94]

And this is aided by getting defencemen who can bring the puck up the ice faster and more effectively. Watching McCabe and Tanev play hot potato with D to D passes is not the tonic.

The speed issue is why Ehlers is my preference if they do go and spend some significant money this summer.

Teams targeted those 2 because they know they are the heart of our defence. You can tell it was hurting their decision making when it came to moving the puck because they were second guessing everything and then they'd end up pinned in the corner because of it. Was becoming frustrating to watch at times because they had quite a bit of time to at least flip the puck out or something. I kind of hope we can turn Rielly into a right shot offensive d man or 2 way d man so we can split up Tanev and McCabe and just use them together later in games to hold leads. Durzi would be perfect tbh.

 

[Dreakmur]

Agree but so are Matthews and Nylander.

Nylander doesn’t seem to drag others down like Marner does. Matthews… I’d want to see what he’s like with Marner gone.