Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Menzinger]

Will Steeves even want to come back, or look for more opportunity elsewhere?

I'd imagine he'd first look to listen for other options. He's going to need a legit chance at cracking a lineup next year or else it's probably never going to happen for the guy

If there's not much other interest I can see him returning to the Marlies but I'd bet on him leaving

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'd imagine he'd first look to listen for other options. He's going to need a legit chance at cracking a lineup next year or else it's probably never going to happen for the guy

If there's not much other interest I can see him returning to the Marlies but I'd bet on him leaving

Trade for another AHLer to replace his presence in our AHL team but would give him a better chance at an NHL line up spot.

Trade him for a 7th / Future considerations to give him a better chance to make an NHL line up

Sign in Europe

 

[Fogelhund]

Trade for another AHLer to replace his presence in our AHL team but would give him a better chance at an NHL line up spot.

Trade him for a 7th / Future considerations to give him a better chance to make an NHL line up

Sign in Europe

He's a UFA... I doubt anyone would want trade for the chance to sign him.

 

[WTFMAN99]

He's a UFA... I doubt anyone would want trade for the chance to sign him.

Didn't even realize, I just kept seeing him in Puckpedia as an RFA for the Leafs but yea he's group 6.

 

[Kiwi]

I look at our team and I see one glaring hole in the lineup, 3C

I'm presuming Tavares comes back and we have a ton of bottom 6, fringy bottom 6 types to but to solidify the bottom 6 we need a 3C we can build around

Gourde will be a UFA, he's mid 30's but he's playing very well in Tampa

Who else can you guys think of?

 

[MarMarSab3]

I look at our team and I see one glaring hole in the lineup, 3C

I'm presuming Tavares comes back and we have a ton of bottom 6, fringy bottom 6 types to but to solidify the bottom 6 we need a 3C we can build around

Gourde will be a UFA, he's mid 30's but he's playing very well in Tampa

Who else can you guys think of?

I think it all depends on what happens with Marner, if he leaves you need to go big and sign two of Boeser Bennett Ehlers Nelson

 

[Kiwi]

I think it all depends on what happens with Marner, if he leaves you need to go big and sign two of Boeser Bennett Ehlers Nelson

If you sign Knies long term and JT your going to need to clear out salary to do that

 

[MarMarSab3]

If you sign Knies long term and JT your going to need to clear out salary to do that

Agreed, Moving Reilly is absolutely essential.
If JT comes down to 6 million and Knies goes up to 7.5 for a total of 13.5 you're essentially breaking even as the Tavares decrease goes to the Knies Increase

 

[Kiwi]

Agreed, Moving Reilly is absolutely essential

Easier said than done

 

[MarMarSab3]

Easier said than done

A man can dream

 

[BertCorbeau]

I look at our team and I see one glaring hole in the lineup, 3C

I'm presuming Tavares comes back and we have a ton of bottom 6, fringy bottom 6 types to but to solidify the bottom 6 we need a 3C we can build around

Gourde will be a UFA, he's mid 30's but he's playing very well in Tampa

Who else can you guys think of?

Granlund

I think Nelson would be a great all. Not sure how much Giroux has left in the tank, but he could be an option.

 

[Menzinger]

Granlund

I think Nelson would be a great all. Not sure how much Giroux has left in the tank, but he could be an option.

Dubas' era Leafs were linked to him a few times. Lots of the same staff in the front office, though he also doesn't strike me as a Tre type forward when it comes to support players

 

[Malachi Crunch]

If Marner decides to leave and we replace Rielly too, how about acquiring:

Kadri (7 million)
Provorov (7 million)

Provorov give us what Rielly gives but is a notch or two better at this point in time.

Kadri is showing no signs of slowing down. He just scored 33 this year. 75 points last year. He fits the timeline. I'm sure he has, at least, 3 years left of productive hockey. Gives us really good strength up the middle with him and Tavares flipping between 2c and 3c. He loves Toronto and gives us more of the grit/attitude we need to go deep.

Of course, Kadri would have to be acquired in a trade. Maybe Rielly? Calgary is close to home.

If Marner gets 14 million, then we still have some money left over to get a top six winger, like Boeser. Especially if we dump some more contracts.

 

[Fogelhund]

If Marner decides to leave and we replace Rielly too, how about acquiring:

Kadri (7 million)
Provorov (7 million)

Provorov give us what Rielly gives but is a notch or two better at this point in time.

Kadri is showing no signs of slowing down. He just scored 33 this year. 75 points last year. He fits the timeline. I'm sure he has, at least, 3 years left of productive hockey. Gives us really good strength up the middle with him and Tavares flipping between 2c and 3c. He loves Toronto and gives us more of the grit/attitude we need to go deep.

Of course, Kadri would have to be acquired in a trade. Maybe Rielly? Calgary is close to home.

If Marner gets 14 million, then we still have some money left over to get a top six winger, like Boeser. Especially if we dump some more contracts.

First Calgary doesn’t want to trade with us given Treliving.

Second Shanahan would never allow us to pick up Kadri again.

So unless we get completely new management, that would never happen.

 

[Tony Romo]

Nelson would be a great fit if he wants to play in Canada. 3x6m for him, would add another 25-30 goal scorer. Shorter contract as well.

 

[Malachi Crunch]

First Calgary doesn’t want to trade with us given Treliving.

Second Shanahan would never allow us to pick up Kadri again.

So unless we get completely new management, that would never happen.

Possibly. You would hope that both parties would do what's best for their team though.

 

[mydnyte]

Finding a 2C/3C is a bigger priority for me.

Ideal is a trade for Krebs. Otherwise I’m in on Donato, close to Domi’ contract.

I would rather have $4-4.5m for Donato to push 2C or a very good 3C who can get guys like McMann and Robertson points than paying $3.6m for Jarnkrok and Laughton to play on the 4th line. Add to it that I think both would have some trade value in addition to freeing up cap space, and I’m comfortable with moving off from both and promoting from within for the 4the line.

Lorentz, Quillan, Steeves I think can be good value and has further development opportunity. Homberg is still an option as well, and we will have Cowan knocking on the door as well (would prefer him on the Marlies next season though).

I'd take a run at Frederic. he has room to grow, and is big and tough

 

[LeafSteel]

I wanted him as well, but I don't think Edmonton is going to let him go.

Also, if you are looking at him as a 3C, I think you need to have an idea of what you want your 3rd line identity to be.

I haven't seen enough of Frederic, but I don't believe he's much of a play maker. I think he's a solid and aggressive player.

With that in mind, what's your who's on your 3rd line with Frederic at C?

McMann-Frederic-?

Cheers,

 

[4thline]

The big thing to me is an early decision on Marner. Lay out our best offer(s) and set pre-draft deadline. If he's not signed, move his rights and move on. Assuming
-he wants to test FA
-we can get Knies and JT at a combined 15m
-we can get Lorentz and Holmberg at a combined 2.5m
-Kampf is traded

Knies-Matthews-Domi
McMann-Tavares-Nylander
xxx-xxx-xxx
Lorentz-Laughton-Jarncrok
Holmberg

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Carlo
OEL-Myers
Benoit

With 11.8 million to drop on the xxx's. It's not the time to be caught waiting around, especially if Robertson is going to be back and/or we're willing to give Quillan/Cowan a legitimate shot

 

[Kiwi]

The big thing to me is an early decision on Marner. Lay out our best offer(s) and set pre-draft deadline. If he's not signed, move his rights and move on. Assuming
-he wants to test FA
-we can get Knies and JT at a combined 15m
-we can get Lorentz and Holmberg at a combined 2.5m
-Kampf is traded

Knies-Matthews-Domi
McMann-Tavares-Nylander
xxx-xxx-xxx
Lorentz-Laughton-Jarncrok
Holmberg

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Carlo
OEL-Myers
Benoit

With 11.8 million to drop on the xxx's. It's not the time to be caught waiting around, especially if Robertson is going to be back and/or we're willing to give Quillan/Cowan a legitimate shot

Sign Gourde and bring back Robertson, you can always trade him later if he doesn't fit and give Cowan a real shot

I'd be tempted to throw an offer at Granlund as well as a top 9LW/3C

 

[4thline]

Sign Gourde and bring back Robertson, you can always trade him later if he doesn't fit and give Cowan a real shot

I'd be tempted to throw an offer at Granlund as well as a top 9LW/3C

I actually really like the idea of Granlund as a Marner (ultra) lite replacement at 1RW.
The problem then lies in what to do with Domi. I'm hoping this iteration finds it's way through and does some damage in the playoffs to prove me wrong- but conceptually I just don't like him on line 3. Not dynamic enough to do what 2016 Penguins Kessel or 12-13 Leafs Kadri did in terms of running rampant in soft minutes, not good enough defensively to handle hard minutes to shift more easy minutes to the big guns.

I've liked the idea of Suter for a while (Vancouver did great work there) and wonder about the Berube connection for a resurgent Saad on the cheap

 

[Dreakmur]

I actually really like the idea of Granlund as a Marner (ultra) lite replacement at 1RW.
The problem then lies in what to do with Domi. I'm hoping this iteration finds it's way through and does some damage in the playoffs to prove me wrong- but conceptually I just don't like him on line 3. Not dynamic enough to do what 2016 Penguins Kessel or 12-13 Leafs Kadri did in terms of running rampant in soft minutes, not good enough defensively to handle hard minutes to shift more easy minutes to the big guns.

I've liked the idea of Suter for a while (Vancouver did great work there) and wonder about the Berube connection for a resurgent Saad on the cheap

Yeah, Domi really is a good compliment to elite players. He facilitates well, but can’t really drive a line.

 

[darrylsittler27]

I think we also underestimate the ability for a player to bounce back. Many people were done with JT last year and he's been very good this year.

Rielly will never be a defensive powerhouse so I think people that want that will always complain. He just needs to be better in terms of offense and creating offense. Even in a bad year he's by far our better point producer.

JT is only playing well for contract, they all do. Look at Marner, his next contract will suck the last 5 years and progressively suck.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Each and every player is post prime.When you sign those type of guys they play progressively bad. The only good player...ever, post 30 was Messier. Demand more or fail . This team will suck in 3 years . No more rewarding post season failure. Reg season means nothing . Accept it or continue being the biggest loser franchise ever, in all of pro sports.Even the Cubbies won. You are being used and abused. If we lose, prices go up duckers!

 

[Thornbury]

JT is only playing well for contract, they all do. Look at Marner, his next contract will suck the last 5 years and progressively suck.

To suggest Tavares, who I think we can all agree is a consumate professional, is playing solely for his next contract, is an absurd take. He has just made $77 million USD. Does he need one more big payday to buy his second Caribbean island?