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If this team once again fails to proceed very far in the playoffs, what would you want them to do?

  • Do nothing, run it back

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Make changes to the offense, top 6 forward, better bottom six, but keep the core

    Votes: 3 10.3%
  • Make changes to the offense, including moving core players

    Votes: 10 34.5%
  • Make changes to the defense

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Do a retool, including moving core players

    Votes: 14 48.3%
  • Ban the guy who keeps making jinx prediction posts.

    Votes: 6 20.7%

  • Total voters
    29
The salary cap creates a very competitive landscape. Kinda like an arms race, GMs get more and more aggressive, hedging bets like the Kotchetkov contract, LTIRing until playoffs, Tampa trading a draft class for Jeannot.

I suspect it's only a matter of time until the offer sheet wars begin. It may have already started, things will only escalate.

It might, especially as more newer school GMs come into the league who feels less attachment to the unwritten rules of stuff

But at the moment I don't see much evidence they're going to be a particular threat this off-season
 
The salary cap creates a very competitive landscape. Kinda like an arms race, GMs get more and more aggressive, hedging bets like the Kotchetkov contract, LTIRing until playoffs, Tampa trading a draft class for Jeannot.

I suspect it's only a matter of time until the offer sheet wars begin. It may have already started, things will only escalate.

Offer sheets are rarely a good idea. You have to overpay AND pay draft picks for the privilege.
 
Offer sheets are rarely a good idea. You have to overpay AND pay draft picks for the privilege.
Straight up value Knies is worth much more than a 1st 2nd 3rd.

You do have to overpay, but select teams can make it work on one or two year deals.

The Blues did something last year that every other GM is going to wonder if they can do this year. If you're not keeping up you're falling behind.
 
We really need to move on from Rielly, he is just not fitting into Berube’s system at all.

Would love to see Treliving continue to reshape our blueline. With Chychrun most likely re-signing in Washington, would love to go hard after Provorov (6.5 million) and Fabbro (4.5 million).

McCabe - Tanev
Provorov - Fabbro
Ekman Larsson - Carlo
Myers
 
I agree. It was weird. He was playing well and kept getting benched.

With that said, I don't think his future would have been much different because he was having the same issues on other teams. He was also injured a lot.

I don't think anyone would want to play in the KHL over the NHL but if he's making a lot, not sure why he'd risk that to be on a PTO/AHL.

Would not be surprised if someone offered him a NHL contract.

If he's interested, a $1mm to play in the minors is great money if he couldn't cut the NHL.
 
I am absolutely all over bringing in Josh Leivo to play 4RW.

Right shot, can skate, can score, hits, and will drop the gloves, at a league minimum.

Ontario kid and a chance to do right by him because we didn’t the 1st time.

Absolutely no downside for us and pushes the competition level up.

This is definitely on my offseason want list.
 
Happy for Leivo however he will be 32 starting next season .. I’m not buying him coming back to the NHL at high impact.

He’s a goal scorer and would need to be in a goal scoring role in the top 6 or top 9.
 
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It might, especially as more newer school GMs come into the league who feels less attachment to the unwritten rules of stuff

But at the moment I don't see much evidence they're going to be a particular threat this off-season

If the cap is jumping the way they predict, and assuming the team flames out in some less than dignified fashion, Toronto may want to go into a bit of a retool and spin off some assets this summer, load up on some futures assets, reserve a bit of cap and go hard after talent on some of the have not teams that can't afford the escalation.
 
Chychrun has to be our top target. The guy would give us an elite top 4 like we have never had in my lifetime.

McCabe-Tanev
Chychrun-Carlo

That's a championship caliber backend.

He'd be a quality add for sure, but the odds of him making it to free agency seem very slim.
 
I would agree with Domi and the depth scoring. Just look at Dewar who couldn't do anything with the Leafs, 1 goal in 50 or so games with the Leafs, and now already has 3 goals in 6 games with the Pens. A lot of that is luck.

I don't think they'll have much of a choice to move both Kampf and Jarnkrok. They've essentially been passed in the depth charts and while they aren't cap anchors, that's about 4.5M of money they will need for extensions and perhaps a player they'd prefer over both. You can probably put a near league minimum cap hit player in place of Kampf with little difference and Jarnkrok is just a very average hard working mid-line player.

As for Robertson, I think the relationship is in a weird spot. I think he'll get moved, but maybe a big post season and things change. Dallas is a team that will need cheap capable players and his brother being there might be very appealing for Dallas. I'm not sure for who or what, but that's my early prediction I see for Nick.

I also think that no matter what happens with Marner, they have to stick Domi on Matthews wing next year.

Knies - Matthews - Domi should be the first line and build around that.
 
Chychrun has to be our top target. The guy would give us an elite top 4 like we have never had in my lifetime.

McCabe-Tanev
Chychrun-Carlo

That's a championship caliber backend.
After bouncing around, I can’t see why Chychrun would want to leave a team like Washington, to join a fishbowl in Toronto.

I could see him taking less money to stay in Washington and the only scenario I could see him leaving Washington is for a gross overpay.

Not a scenario I am interested in, and trying to get out of overpaying our players.
 
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If the cap is jumping the way they predict, and assuming the team flames out in some less than dignified fashion, Toronto may want to go into a bit of a retool and spin off some assets this summer, load up on some futures assets, reserve a bit of cap and go hard after talent on some of the have not teams that can't afford the escalation.

With the team not having any 1sts for the next few drafts, I don't see management diverting from trying to maximize competitiveness unless the board doesn't extend Shanny and fires Tre this spring.

If Marner walks I can see them trying to have a bunch of cap space for McDavid in summer of '26 though
 
A little higher than expected but he’s found himself in a great situation in Washington. Not surprised he re-signed.

Provorov you are now our top defenceman target this off-season! Lol
 
A little higher than expected but he’s found himself in a great situation in Washington. Not surprised he re-signed.

Provorov you are now our top defenceman target this off-season! Lol

The AFP Analytics projection was 7 x $7.84... the eighth year raised the cap a little... so maybe a mil more than expected. With the cap going up so much, it doesn't matter too much. Chychrun really fits into their system, and will put up around 55 points this year.
 
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The AFP Analytics projection was 7 x $7.84... the eighth year raised the cap a little... so maybe a mil more than expected. With the cap going up so much, it doesn't matter too much. Chychrun really fits into their system, and will put up around 55 points this year.
We really missed our opportunity when Ottawa was looking to move him. I definitely believe there was something to be worked out around Chychrun for Liljegren + at the time. I guess no one expected Rielly to fall off so hard.
 
We really missed our opportunity when Ottawa was looking to move him. I definitely believe there was something to be worked out around Chychrun for Liljegren + at the time. I guess no one expected Rielly to fall off so hard.

He was hard to gamble on. He was a -30 last year, and while that isn't a stat that always tells the right story, in this case it did. He's a bit injury prone, and has missed a lot of time. I just don't think that was the guy we were going to gamble on at that point. We needed defense first guys, more than an offensive guy, who was weak defensively and missed a lot of time.

Given some things have changed with Rielly not fitting in with Berube's system, and our perception of Chychrun changing, due to finally breaking out, and playing nearly a full season, our thoughts on Chychrun changed as well. Yes.. the Washington version of Chych is a guy that would be great. The version from the past few years, maybe not.
 

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