Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[WTFMAN99]

Lizotte makes 1.85, Kampf makes 2.4. I'm not going to gripe about the difference.

But as it stands, isn't Laughton the 4th C in Berube's eyes?

Production has been solid in that role

I think Laughton will give zero offense at 4C but 4th line wing? I think he could provide more offense.

Brandan Tanev just provided 0 pts in 13GP and historically doesn't provide offense in the playoffs.

Tanner Jeannot...also think he will be paid a decent amount and not do anything offensively.

Laughton-Lizotte-Brown baby

 

[ULF_55]

Knies-Matthews-Domi
Suter-Tavares-Nylander
McMann-Dvorak-Donato
Lorentz-Laughton-Holmberg

Quillan - Cowan

 

[Rare Jewel]

Production has been solid in that role

I think Laughton will give zero offense at 4C but 4th line wing? I think he could provide more offense.

Brandan Tanev just provided 0 pts in 13GP and historically doesn't provide offense in the playoffs.

Tanner Jeannot...also think he will be paid a decent amount and not do anything offensively.

Laughton-Lizotte-Brown baby

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Hey, it's an idea.

I know I'm likely in the minority, but I'd just keep Kampf there. He and the 4th line in general will be greatly helped by not having Reeves strapped to him.

 

[Stringer Bell]

Knies-Matthews-Domi
Suter-Tavares-Nylander
McMann-Dvorak-Donato
Lorentz-Laughton-Holmberg

Quillan - Cowan

Our problem has mostly been that our top 6 doesn't contribute nearly enough in the playoffs. Unfortunately what I'm looking at doesn't look like that will change.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Hey, it's an idea.

I know I'm likely in the minority, but I'd just keep Kampf there. He and the 4th line in general will be greatly helped by not having Reeves strapped to him.

I'm not a Kampf guy...but honestly it doesn't matter what I think but I don't think Berube does, he scratched him all but 1 game in the playoffs.

 

[WillNy29]

According to PuckEmpire -> Bruce Garrioch; the Toronto Maple Leafs tried to trade for Rasmus Ristolainen of the Philadelphia Flyers, but they were rejected.

Thank god for that.

f*** me that doesnt bode well for having Tree at the top lol

 

[WillNy29]

To Toronto-
Kasper
Edvinsson
Raymond

To Detroit-
Nylander
Rielly

do you just look at like each teams last 3 or 4 top picks and then pool them together for leaf players lol

 

[SprDaVE]

f*** me that doesnt bode well for having Tree at the top lol

Leafs pro scouting probably could use a reshape. The amateur side of things is already getting change, but the pro scouting has been pretty iffy. I think Dave Morisson is still the head oncho for the pro scouting.

But I will say this was probably way before the Leafs had the defenders they have and could have been a situation they tried to buy very low on a player. Until bad stuff actually happens, all we can do is judge what has actually happened.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I'm not a Kampf guy...but honestly it doesn't matter what I think but I don't think Berube does, he scratched him all but 1 game in the playoffs.

Nor does it matter what I think, lol, and I think it's likely he will get moved,

But with Kampf, he's unspectacular, so I get it. But I think he's effective, and for the 600k difference between Lizotte or whoever is as good in that role, it isn't a big deal now that they won't have as much money in the top guys.

 

[WillNy29]

Leafs pro scouting probably could use a reshape. The amateur side of things is already getting change, but the pro scouting has been pretty iffy. I think Dave Morisson is still the head oncho for the pro scouting.

But I will say this was probably way before the Leafs had the defenders they have and could have been a situation they tried to buy very low on a player. Until bad stuff actually happens, all we can do is judge what has actually happened.

Ive been a noted and outspoken Dave Morrison hater for a long time

 

[ULF_55]

Our problem has mostly been that our top 6 doesn't contribute nearly enough in the playoffs. Unfortunately what I'm looking at doesn't look like that will change.

I think people are looking for a homerun but having platoon player budget.

 

[ACC1224]

If we can pull these off, that would be great. Even if we can get the rumoured Marner sign and trade done with Vegas and grab Karlsson as our defensive #2C to play with Willy, and drop Tavares to the 3rd line, we’d be in pretty good shape.

I’d like to avoid going big spending on future long term bloated contracts like the ones Bennett and Boeser are about to get.

That's a thing?

 

[WTFMAN99]

That's a thing?

Dreger the other day was saying he could see it because the 8th year would help potentially lower the AAV, get Marner more $$ etc.

That could get Toronto maybe a 3rd round pick or if they added maybe William Karlsson?

It makes sense to me because if Marner doesn't wanna be here, he might have a couple places in mind....so point to where you wanna go, get your 8th year, it's 10-15M more in his pocket.

 

[ACC1224]

Dreger the other day was saying he could see it because the 8th year would help potentially lower the AAV, get Marner more $$ etc.

That could get Toronto mabe a 3rd round pick or if they added maybe William Karlsson?

It makes sense to me because if Marner doesn't wanna be here, he might have a couple places in mind....so point to where you wanna go, get your 8th year, it's 10-15M more in his pocket.

Got it. Not sure I'd classify that as a rumour, sounds like something that would be proposed here.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Got it. Not sure I'd classify that as a rumour, sounds like something that would be proposed here.

I think it has legs here because Dreger reported on it, he's close to Nonis who at least has some level of communication with Tree from the Calgary days.

It makes sense that the Leafs, low on draft picks would be inclined to try to get as many assets/draft picks as possible.

 

[ULF_55]

Got it. Not sure I'd classify that as a rumour, sounds like something that would be proposed here.

I'm going with the Sabres, straight up signing as UFA.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I think it has legs here because Dreger reported on it, he's close to Nonis who at least has some level of communication with Tree from the Calgary days.

It makes sense that the Leafs, low on draft picks would be inclined to try to get as many assets/draft picks as possible.

Yes.

You would hope for a lot more than a 3rd rounder, though.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Yes.

You would hope for a lot more than a 3rd rounder, though.

Guentzel's rights were a 3rd round pick last year.

I'd love William Karlsson but if I had to add, I would.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Guentzel's rights were a 3rd round pick last year.

I'd love William Karlsson but if I had to add, I would.

I wouldn't add, I would say "that's the deal, or bye."

They need to use leverage well here and create a kind of derby for his rights.

Vegas, if they want him, they will be competing against a few teams that will likely blow their brains out on it, and given their cap crunch issue, they can't.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I wouldn't add, I would say "that's the deal, or bye."

They need to use leverage well here and create a kind of derby for his rights.

Vegas, if they want him, they will be competing against a few teams that will likely blow their brains out on it, and given their cap crunch issue, they can't.

I'd love for that to happen.

Questions will become answers in just a bit over a month from now.

 

[ULF_55]

I wouldn't add, I would say "that's the deal, or bye."

They need to use leverage well here and create a kind of derby for his rights.

Vegas, if they want him, they will be competing against a few teams that will likely blow their brains out on it, and given their cap crunch issue, they can't.

Leading up to July 1st. some team may tip their hand by selling a contract or two.

Barbashev going out could cover the marner ticket.

 

[Avilaj07]

No,

do you just look at like each teams last 3 or 4 top picks and then pool them together for leaf players lol

No, I look at a team like Detroit who sure, might have drafted well lately but haven't really taken a step and maybe use some of those recent draft picks to get more established players, one being a superstar in Willy

 

[Rare Jewel]

Leading up to July 1st. some team may tip their hand by selling a contract or two.

Barbashev going out could cover the marner ticket.

That's fine, but I'm not giving them the 8th year for nothing...

 

[Fogelhund]

Leafs always find themselves with a vet reclamation project. Leafs apparently are/were interested. World class medical staff could be useful for him.

His hometown state seems more likely but the Leafs could be very intriguing.

His hometown state? Manitoba? State?

 

[TheGreenTBer]

His hometown state? Manitoba? State?

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