Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[notbias]

Stars are in a salary crunch. Marchment at 4.5 would be a good add and maybe they could take Jarnkrok in return which would net them 2.4 million but fill a hole on their RW side. This allows Bourque to be in their LW rotation next year. Bring JT back on a team friendly deal at 5mil.

2nd line is paid for by not giving Marner 13 milliion. Knies signs for the diffrence of JT deal plus a million or 2 million

Marchment slide into the 3LW spot. Physical can score.

Knies - Matthews - Nylander
Domi - XX - XX
Marchment - Tavares - XX
McMann - Laughton XX

Do people check the stats of the players or just the size of them?

 

[Rare Jewel]

unless were swapping Rielly for Chabot I don't see how they would have any interest as those two players are very similar already Rielly stylistically is the last thing Ottawa needs




then maybe we need a new coach if this is true...

he played Dunn 19 mins in his last season in St. Louis but if Dunn's game went to another level once he went to Seattle which it appears as tho it did, I would hope our coach doesn't is not so stuck in his ways that he wouldn't play him, if he is he should be fired.

It's drastic.

But I do feel it's spinning your wheels with these two guys.

You don't get out-chanced 21-0 and not have questions about the systematic and stylistic ideas of the team.

 

[ryno23]

Do people check the stats of the players or just the size of them?

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who is giving up a point per game playoff guy to us? At least he has size, grit and has more goals than McMann, Jarnkrok, Kampf this playoff and will grind the opponent D

 

[djdev]

Duchene doesn't want to play here (unless that changed).

Nelson is an old UFA signing who will likely be overpaid and doesn't produce much (yay).

Boeser has a small sample size where he had a high shooting %, doubt it sustains, but sure, he is a passenger on most lines, not a driver, so we need someone to pass to him.

The UFA class sucks, a lot.

You also listed guys who can "easily get 60 points", who didn't get 60 points this year.

nelson had 56 points this year, had 69 pts last year and 75pts the year before, almost exclusively on one of if not THE worst offensice teams in the league. i think signing him to a 2 year deal is perfectly reeasonable. hes also 33 not 36 or 37. boeser is marners age and while he didnt have a great season last year still potted 25g and 25a. and the year before had 40g and 73pts.

duchene..maybe he doesnt wanna sign, but he had 82pts this year including 30g on a 1 year 3m contract at age 34. if hes open to signing another 1 year deal at a raise for his current 3m he could take it.

they are just options, but there are avenues to replacing mitch's points while spreading the talent out more.

 

[notbias]

who is giving up a point per game playoff guy to us? At least he has size, grit and has more goals than McMann, Jarnkrok, Kampf this playoff and will grind the opponent D

He has 1 goal in 13 games this playoff, yes, let's target that guy!

He is overrated and loved by this board for his size, but he is largely ineffective in the playoffs, no clue why anyone wants him.

 

[notbias]

nelson had 56 points this year, had 69 pts last year and 75pts the year before, almost exclusively on one of if not THE worst offensice teams in the league. i think signing him to a 2 year deal is perfectly reeasonable. hes also 33 not 36 or 37. boeser is marners age and while he didnt have a great season last year still potted 25g and 25a. and the year before had 40g and 73pts.

duchene..maybe he doesnt wanna sign, but he had 82pts this year including 30g on a 1 year 3m contract at age 34. if hes open to signing another 1 year deal at a raise for his current 3m he could take it.

they are just options, but there are avenues to replacing mitch's points while spreading the talent out more.

Nelson is 33 that just might be the trend.

Duchene as far as I know has no desire to play here, this was reported a couple years ago, so may has changed.

There aren't just many play drivers or guys who can put up big numbers available who want to come here.

The FA class is bad.

They have to do something, but maybe you look at reclamation projects or something, go the way of Florida (Frosling, Bennett, Reinhart, etc).

 

[djdev]

Nelsons gonna be 34 this year, I don't know how many quality years he has left

ye i hear you, but they are just stop gaps honestly. and tbf he hasnt really slowed down and looked great for the avs in the POs. theres no ideal situation this upcoming season honestly..and i would prefer saving ammunition for next seasons FA class. honestly without marner this team probably wont win the division again but its still a playoff team imo and some of these guys can buy us some time to evaluate if kiprisov or mcdavid or panarin etc will go to free agency.

 

[djdev]

Nelson is 33 that just might be the trend.

Duchene as far as I know has no desire to play here, this was reported a couple years ago, so may has changed.

There aren't just many play drivers or guys who can put up big numbers available who want to come here.

The FA class is bad.

They have to do something, but maybe you look at reclamation projects or something, go the way of Florida (Frosling, Bennett, Reinhart, etc).

im honestly just looking at stop gaps for the current season. theres nothing that will replace marner but for short term value i think those guys would be good. and i doubt any of them(except boeser) is really looking at a long deal going forward.

 

[ryno23]

He has 1 goal in 13 games this playoff, yes, let's target that guy!

He is overrated and loved by this board for his size, but he is largely ineffective in the playoffs, no clue why anyone wants him.

so he's the Lawson Crouse of the playoffs. His name is always talked about by posters here and when you look at his game it's meh.

I only brought up his name as he is on a team that is cap strapped and can make a deal for Jarnkrok which nets them a savings of 2.4 mil. It's not like I want him at all cost. Him or Calle? For sure Marchment.

 

[notbias]

im honestly just looking at stop gaps for the current season. theres nothing that will replace marner but for short term value i think those guys would be good. and i doubt any of them(except boeser) is really looking at a long deal going forward.

I think it is the exact opposite, Boeser is looking for short term and wants to rebound, he may actually be a target.

Everyone else is older and wants to have a last paycheck I think.

so he's the Lawson Crouse of the playoffs. His name is always talked about by posters here and when you look at his game it's meh.

I only brought up his name as he is on a team that is cap strapped and can make a deal for Jarnkrok which nets them a savings of 2.4 mil. It's not like I want him at all cost. Him or Calle? For sure Marchment.

I wouldn't want Marchment for free at 4.5...

 

[djdev]

I think it is the exact opposite, Boeser is looking for short term and wants to rebound, he may actually be a target.

Everyone else is older and wants to have a last paycheck I think.

i mean i doubt anyone is signing either nelson or duchene to anything longer than 2 years..time will tell i suppose. im just trying to find realistic solutions for the short term.

 

[notbias]

i mean i doubt anyone is signing either nelson or duchene to anything longer than 2 years..time will tell i suppose. im just trying to find realistic solutions for the short term.

Leafs just signed Tanev to 6 years at age 35, teams will.

Boeser I think is a decent suggestion, I really hope they stay away from older players, this team is already so old and slow.

 

[djdev]

Leafs just signed Tanev to 6 years at age 35, teams will.

Boeser I think is a decent suggestion, I really hope they stay away from older players, this team is already so old and slow.

ye i think that contract is a bit of an exception, and the type we might offer to JT fully expecting him not to complete it at a lower aav more term. we shall see we are entering untested waters a bit with the cap situation and limited quality FAs available.

 

[SprDaVE]

nelson had 56 points this year, had 69 pts last year and 75pts the year before, almost exclusively on one of if not THE worst offensice teams in the league. i think signing him to a 2 year deal is perfectly reeasonable. hes also 33 not 36 or 37. boeser is marners age and while he didnt have a great season last year still potted 25g and 25a. and the year before had 40g and 73pts.

duchene..maybe he doesnt wanna sign, but he had 82pts this year including 30g on a 1 year 3m contract at age 34. if hes open to signing another 1 year deal at a raise for his current 3m he could take it.

they are just options, but there are avenues to replacing mitch's points while spreading the talent out more.

That's fine on paper but Nelson isn't signing 2 years for cheap and unlikely he accepts term of that much. He's probably signing his last big contract. You're probably looking at minimum 4 years and over 7M -- especially to go to Toronto.

Duchene makes sense but he's in the same boat as Nelson probably.

 

[djdev]

That's fine on paper but Nelson isn't signing 2 years for cheap and unlikely he accepts term of that much. He's probably signing his last big contract. You're probably looking at minimum 4 years and over 7M -- especially to go to Toronto.

Duchene makes sense but he's in the same boat as Nelson probably.

it all depends on what teams actually offer, duchene just signed a 1 year 3m dollar deal. all bets are off given the circumstances of this year, but i dont think its a sure thing that a team will be willing to sign a near 34 year old to a 4 year deal at that AV.

 

[SprDaVE]

it all depends on what teams actually offer, duchene just signed a 1 year 3m dollar deal. all bets are off given the circumstances of this year, but i dont think its a sure thing that a team will be willing to sign a near 34 year old to a 4 year deal at that AV.

Duchene made it work to stay in Dallas since he's competing for a cup, they have very lax tax laws and it was a great fit. He could give them another sweetheart deal.

Maybe he'd do the same to move to the GTA but I wouldn't bet one it.

 

[sxvnert]

Duchene made it work to stay in Dallas since he's competing for a cup, they have very lax tax laws and it was a great fit. He could give them another sweetheart deal.

Maybe he'd do the same to move to the GTA but I wouldn't bet one it.

All indications/rumours is he prefers a conservative state. Apparently loves it there.

 

[ashs]

Mcdavid would look great with marner here.

 

[Jozay]

I’d avoid any big long term deals this summer if I were the Leafs.

FA is very weak.

 

[SprDaVE]

I’d avoid any big long term deals this summer if I were the Leafs.

FA is very weak.

It's weak every year and it will keep being weak with the growing cap. You just never load up on term or expensive players for a bunch of players. You identify 1 or 2 guys that can elevate your team, and then stay patient to fill out the rest with good fits.

If there's one thing Treliving has done relatively well, it's finding some good value in free agency. But with around 20M of cash to burn, he might be a little less cautious.

Next year looks good but the majority of players will get locked up or traded before then, just like what happened for this July 1st this time last year.

 

[Americanadian]

Trade:
Woll, Robertson to CBJ for Sillinger, Merzlikins (50% retained)

FLA 25 2nd (61OA) to NSH for Marchessault

McMann to DAL for Marchment

Kampf to LAK for future considerations

Jarnkrok to PIT for future considerations

UFA:
Roslovic 3.5Mx3
Lorentz 1.35Mx2
Bastian 1.35Mx2

RFA: Knies 6.5Mx3
Holmberg 1Mx1

Knies-Matthews-Roslovic
Marchment-Sillinger-Nylander
Domi-Tavares-Marchessault
Lorentz-Laughton-Bastian
Holmberg

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Carlo
Benoit-OEL
Myers

Stolarz
Merzlikins

Cap hit with overages: 92.78M

I am assuming that Rielly and Domi will be impossible to move.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Trade:
Woll, Robertson to CBJ for Sillinger, Merzlikins (50% retained)

FLA 25 2nd (61OA) to NSH for Marchessault

McMann to DAL for Marchment

Kampf to LAK for future considerations

Jarnkrok to PIT for future considerations

UFA:
Roslovic 3.5Mx3
Lorentz 1.35Mx2
Bastian 1.35Mx2

RFA: Knies 6.5Mx3
Holmberg 1Mx1

Knies-Matthews-Roslovic
Marchment-Sillinger-Nylander
Domi-Tavares-Marchessault
Lorentz-Laughton-Bastian
Holmberg

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Carlo
Benoit-OEL
Myers

Stolarz
Merzlikins

Cap hit with overages: 92.78M

I am assuming that Rielly and Domi will be impossible to move.

Mine looks so different from this.

But hey, love the effort. The Roslovic thing is interesting, though.

 

[Jozay]

It's weak every year and it will keep being weak with the growing cap. You just never load up on term or expensive players for a bunch of players. You identify 1 or 2 guys that can elevate your team, and then stay patient to fill out the rest with good fits.

If there's one thing Treliving has done relatively well, it's finding some good value in free agency. But with around 20M of cash to burn, he might be a little less cautious.

Next year looks good but the majority of players will get locked up or traded before then, just like what happened for this July 1st this time last year.

Yeah I wouldn’t be counting on future potential free agents making it to July 1. It’s just good to avoid bad contracts in general. Would like to see the Leafs be disciplined in free agency.

 

[SprDaVE]

Trade:
Woll, Robertson to CBJ for Sillinger, Merzlikins (50% retained)

FLA 25 2nd (61OA) to NSH for Marchessault

McMann to DAL for Marchment

Kampf to LAK for future considerations

Jarnkrok to PIT for future considerations

UFA:
Roslovic 3.5Mx3
Lorentz 1.35Mx2
Bastian 1.35Mx2

RFA: Knies 6.5Mx3
Holmberg 1Mx1

Knies-Matthews-Roslovic
Marchment-Sillinger-Nylander
Domi-Tavares-Marchessault
Lorentz-Laughton-Bastian
Holmberg

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Carlo
Benoit-OEL
Myers

Stolarz
Merzlikins

Cap hit with overages: 92.78M

I am assuming that Rielly and Domi will be impossible to move.

Marchessault is super underrated. He's going to be 35 this year though and signed until he's 39. The price seems fair for his production but it's adding another old player on the tail end of his very good career. Either way, I'd be very interested if Nashville wants to re-do that.

I'd have close to zero interest in Roslovic at 3 years, just put Domi in his spot or put the acquired Marchessault in that role, who has been close to a PPG his entired prime career. I do like targetting Marchment if Dallas needs to sell low due to cap restraints but not for McMann, who likely will have an increased effective role at his cap hit. You might as well keep McMann and save yourself 3M.

 

[Fogelhund]

Trade:
Woll, Robertson to CBJ for Sillinger, Merzlikins (50% retained)

FLA 25 2nd (61OA) to NSH for Marchessault

McMann to DAL for Marchment

Kampf to LAK for future considerations

Jarnkrok to PIT for future considerations

UFA:
Roslovic 3.5Mx3
Lorentz 1.35Mx2
Bastian 1.35Mx2

RFA: Knies 6.5Mx3
Holmberg 1Mx1

Knies-Matthews-Roslovic
Marchment-Sillinger-Nylander
Domi-Tavares-Marchessault
Lorentz-Laughton-Bastian
Holmberg

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Carlo
Benoit-OEL
Myers

Stolarz
Merzlikins

Cap hit with overages: 92.78M

I am assuming that Rielly and Domi will be impossible to move.

Good effort overall... I'm not a fan of Roslovic at all.. he's basically another Domi type player... not physical, not great defensively, 0.5 PPG... I don't know why we'd want him on our first line, he's really a third line guy.

Maybe Patrick Kane would be a better short-term option? Same money....