Rochester and Cincinnati All-Purpose Thread 2022-2023 Season (Conference Finals: Hershey wins 4-2)

[Chainshot]

Outshot 40-15 for the game in an ugly road loss.

 

[elchud]

If only there was a center prospect in Buffalo that they could send down for a spell.

But there isnt.

 

[Chainshot]

If only there was a center prospect in Buffalo that they could send down for a spell.

But there isnt.

IKR?

 

[Chainshot]

 

[Zip15]

Extended our Thanksgiving weekend trip at the in-laws to catch this game. Wish I hadn’t. I figured it was going to be rough when I calculated their arrival time into Allentown after Friday night’s game. Houser deserves a medal for what he had to face behind that defense on Saturday night. Other observations:

-Kulich has “it.” In addition to his great shot, he moves well off the puck in the offensive zone. He will be a nice middle-6 winger for BUF, perhaps by the end of next season. Has some stuff to clean up (lazy backcheck on LV’s 5th goal), but one of the few bright spots.

-I’d have to see a shift chart but it seemed like Rosen got benched for the first 15 minutes of the 3rd. He was getting a talking to by Appert after a lackluster shift in the 2nd.

-Clague. Woof. Really, all the defensemen were terrible in that game. That Laaksonen can’t break into that rotation is pretty damning.

-Murray and Mersch played hard all game. Good to see.

Again, probably not a representative game given the travel and 3rd game in 4 nights. At least I hope that wasn’t representative of their usual performances. Burn that tape without watching.

 

[old kummelweck]

Extended our Thanksgiving weekend trip at the in-laws to catch this game.

Not all heroes wear capes.

 

[Chainshot]

Extended our Thanksgiving weekend trip at the in-laws to catch this game. Wish I hadn’t. I figured it was going to be rough when I calculated their arrival time into Allentown after Friday night’s game. Houser deserves a medal for what he had to face behind that defense on Saturday night. Other observations:

-Kulich has “it.” In addition to his great shot, he moves well off the puck in the offensive zone. He will be a nice middle-6 winger for BUF, perhaps by the end of next season. Has some stuff to clean up (lazy backcheck on LV’s 5th goal), but one of the few bright spots.

-I’d have to see a shift chart but it seemed like Rosen got benched for the first 15 minutes of the 3rd. He was getting a talking to by Appert after a lackluster shift in the 2nd.

-Clague. Woof. Really, all the defensemen were terrible in that game. That Laaksonen can’t break into that rotation is pretty damning.

-Murray and Mersch played hard all game. Good to see.

Again, probably not a representative game given the travel and 3rd game in 4 nights. At least I hope that wasn’t representative of their usual performances. Burn that tape without watching.

Oof. That was the worst game I've seen them play, full stop. It may be the worst game I've ever seen them play as a franchise.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Sheehan done with the buses & Sabres

 

[old kummelweck]

Sheehan done with the buses & Sabres

Loser.

 

[Chainshot]

Praise for Murray's improved skating. Not really any mention of the Lehigh Valley loss, the Phantom flagellation.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Matt Ress]

Loser.

Eh I don't blame the guy for chasing more money. There's some team that will pick him up and it really doesn't hurt Buffalo or Rochester that much.

 

[toddkaz]

Kulich quietly have a nice start to a rookie season. Could see an ever stronger second half and a case for rookie of the year.

 

[old kummelweck]

Eh I don't blame the guy for chasing more money. There's some team that will pick him up and it really doesn't hurt Buffalo or Rochester that much.

He's not chasing more money. No one would pay him more than Buffalo to play in the AHL. Maybe he can find a better work/life balance in a European league - Sweden or Swiss. I think someone mentioned that above.

 

[Djp]

He's not chasing more money. No one would pay him more than Buffalo to play in the AHL. Maybe he can find a better work/life balance in a European league - Sweden or Swiss. I think someone mentioned that above.

I think the issue was the AHL salary

20/22 he go $700K for either NHL or AHL
last year he was paid$850K playing either
this year it was a two way where nhl was above the floor a lityke but the AHL portion was half ehat he made thr prior two year With it being just $350K

 

[Jim Bob]

I think the issue was the AHL salary

20/22 he go $700K for either NHL or AHL
last year he was paid$850K playing either
this year it was a two way where nhl was above the floor a lityke but the AHL portion was half ehat he made thr prior two year With it being just $350K

I doubt it was the two-way deal and the money part. I think it is the lifestyle difference between the NHL, the AHL, and European leagues.

It's less a monetary thing as it is a quality of life thing.

 

[Matt Ress]

I doubt it was the two-way deal and the money part. I think it is the lifestyle difference between the NHL, the AHL, and European leagues.

It's less a monetary thing as it is a quality of life thing.

Tomāto/tomato

 

[old kummelweck]

I think the issue was the AHL salary

20/22 he go $700K for either NHL or AHL
last year he was paid$850K playing either
this year it was a two way where nhl was above the floor a lityke but the AHL portion was half ehat he made thr prior two year With it being just $350K

Interesting. I thought the $950 was guaranteed. I can't imagine he has any other NHL options, or else they would have picked him up on waivers. Maybe $750 on-way where he'd play in the NHL? Doesn't seem likely.

 

[Chainshot]

I think the issue was the AHL salary

20/22 he go $700K for either NHL or AHL
last year he was paid$850K playing either
this year it was a two way where nhl was above the floor a lityke but the AHL portion was half ehat he made thr prior two year With it being just $350K

Not what he relayed was the reason.

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

I think the issue was the AHL salary

20/22 he go $700K for either NHL or AHL
last year he was paid$850K playing either
this year it was a two way where nhl was above the floor a lityke but the AHL portion was half ehat he made thr prior two year With it being just $350K

He's made almost 20 million in his career, I don't know that it was the money.

Last season he only played 4 AHL games and spent most of the season with the Kraken. The last time he really had to do the whole up/down thing between leagues was almost 10 years ago. I'd imagine with a young child at home the uncertainty was more of an issue than the actual pay.

 

[Djp]

Not what he relayed was the reason.

I know it wasn’t released

2 yrs ago from KA he got an equal AHL/NHL salary. This go he got a higher NHL salary but his AHL salary was less than half of what itwas2 yrs ago.

unsure what was said in summer negotiations when he was signed. He probably is ticked when they claimed Jost and sent him down

 

[Djp]

He's made almost 20 million in his career, I don't know that it was the money.

Last season he only played 4 AHL games and spent most of the season with the Kraken. The last time he really had to do the whole up/down thing between leagues was almost 10 years ago. I'd imagine with a young child at home the uncertainty was more of an issue than the actual pay.

that’s also a factor. He probably felt he’d be on the nhl team . His sent down was more a conditioning assignment than him being an AHL player. He didn’t want to be up snd down all the time givrn a young kids so that’s understandable.

i don’t know ehat was said when he originally signed the contract.

 

[Chainshot]

I know it wasn’t released

2 yrs ago from KA he got an equal AHL/NHL salary. This go he got a higher NHL salary but his AHL salary was less than half of what itwas2 yrs ago.

unsure what was said in summer negotiations when he was signed. He probably is ticked when they claimed Jost and sent him down

He and his wife have a newborn and it's the Rochester-to-Buffalo commute and the time away that were given as the reasons. He's very big on mental wellness - stepping away to be with his family is definitely a mental wellness/quality of life decision.

 

[Djp]

He and his wife have a newborn and it's the Rochester-to-Buffalo commute and the time away that were given as the reasons. He's very big on mental wellness - stepping away to be with his family is definitely a mental wellness/quality of life decision.

I know he has a new child and wanted stability and not being on the yo-you.

i think he expected to be on buffalo and signed with bufalo figuring he’d be on the roster as a 13/14 forward.

where did he rent a house to live With his family? If it’s in buffalothrn that would say what his expectations were. If he picked a place in Batavia would say something else which thrn might change things like not wanting todo the longer drives.

 

[Chainshot]

Biro full practice today, could be cleared soon. Cederqvist still week to week with UBI.