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Red Line's WJC report is up on USA today....and man, did Schremp ever get toasted!!
AJ1982 said:no surprise there
Rabid Ranger said:Agreed. I have to admit though, Schremp's rep has taken a pretty fair beating of late. He should have been a lock for the U.S. team.
Ferdonnet said:"Nothing could possibly better illustrate the point Red Line made two months ago when we publicly castigated Schremp and dropped him out of our top 10 rankings. Trust us on this one: this whole incident is not going to help him come Draft Day. It may not wind up hurting him dramatically, but if you have stock in Robbie Schremp this morning, our advice is sell, 'cause that stock ain't on the rise right now."
This is ironic - I thought they always say that they're not in the prediction business.
I guess I caught them on it.
Not really. They say that all the time that their list is not how they predict how guys will go, but how they would rank them. They also make comments all the time how something or another will hurt (or help)a guys draft position (they think).Ferdonnet said:"Nothing could possibly better illustrate the point Red Line made two months ago when we publicly castigated Schremp and dropped him out of our top 10 rankings. Trust us on this one: this whole incident is not going to help him come Draft Day. It may not wind up hurting him dramatically, but if you have stock in Robbie Schremp this morning, our advice is sell, 'cause that stock ain't on the rise right now."
This is ironic - I thought they always say that they're not in the prediction business.
I guess I caught them on it.
Sammy said:Not really. They say that all the time that their list is not how they predict how guys will go, but how they would rank them. They also make comments all the time how something or another will hurt (or help)a guys draft position (they think).
See, it really not that complicated so you didnt really catch them on anything.
Ferdonnet said:well, they're lowering Schremp obviously because they feel his stock is faling. I think they're contradicting themselves.
Epsilon said:Actually it sounds like the opposite to me. They lowered Schremp first and are now using the fact that his stock is dropping elsewhere to justify their decision to do so in the face of all the flack they have received from the Schremp boosters.
Ferdonnet said:They need other events to justify their decision? Sounds like an inferiority complex to me.
Epsilon said:Not really. They are just using it as a sort of "I told you so" to all the people who accused them of having some sort of personal vendetta against Schremp. Clearly there is more substance behind their ranking than just Woodlief being bitter as many have suggested.
Scouts view of a player go up & down all the time because of the players attitude , work ethic & character. Like, if you had a supremly talented player who it then became known liked his cocaine, of course it affects scouts view of the guy & justifiably so .Ferdonnet said:Yeah - I don't think Woodlief is bitter. But it seems to me that all this 'substance' is mostly behind Schremp's leave of the London Knights and whatever happened with the US hockey program as a result.
I hear that Robbie is playing pretty well this year. So I'm only wondering if they're really watching or if they're just basing this on a supposed attitude problem - which may or may not be true. However I would be more convinced if they said downright what's wrong with his play. If there's nothing, then I'll have problems buying it.
but vendetta is a strong word - I don't know whether that's true. Maybe they can waste less ink on Schremp, unless they discuss his play? Or just cover other players who are less known instead.
b-mad said:Red Line's WJC report is up on USA today....and man, did Schremp ever get toasted!!
Ferdonnet said:Yeah - I don't think Woodlief is bitter. But it seems to me that all this 'substance' is mostly behind Schremp's leave of the London Knights and whatever happened with the US hockey program as a result.
I hear that Robbie is playing pretty well this year. So I'm only wondering if they're really watching or if they're just basing this on a supposed attitude problem - which may or may not be true. However I would be more convinced if they said downright what's wrong with his play. If there's nothing, then I'll have problems buying it.
but vendetta is a strong word - I don't know whether that's true. Maybe they can waste less ink on Schremp, unless they discuss his play? Or just cover other players who are less known instead.
IMO Schremp is a much better player than Umberger.Mizral said:Aside from Woodleif's obvious hate for Schremp, it is very aperant his stock is falling like a rock.
Does this remind anyone of the RJ Umberger situation before he was drafted? RJ has never had 'attitude problems' near his name, but he was supposed to be one of the top guys in the 2001 draft, but ended up only being selected at #16 overall.
Could Schremp me something like an Umberger, or an O'Sullivan? It'll be interesting to see where he goes in the draft, and what team takes a gamble on him. I am of the opinion (though I've only see him play once) that he has, very clearly, NHL talents, and from my look of it, I think he'll be a very good NHL'er, better than most of the 2004 class at least (I'm still not impressed with this draft year yet).
DR. Holiday said:Every post you have made has been either posting McKeens list, Hacking on redline or proping up McKeens. Hmmmmm
McKeens employee perhaps.
Evilo said:IMO Schremp is a much better player than Umberger.
I really don't see all the teams picking in the top 10 passing on him.
Is Schremp the O'Sullivan of 04? Does anyone think that he could drop to the second round? His stock has fallen drastically with the cut from the roster.Rabid Ranger said:Agreed. I have to admit though, Schremp's rep has taken a pretty fair beating of late. He should have been a lock for the U.S. team.
PanthersRule said:Is Schremp the O'Sullivan of 04? Does anyone think that he could drop to the second round? His stock has fallen drastically with the cut from the roster.
Mizral said:Aside from Woodleif's obvious hate for Schremp, it is very aperant his stock is falling like a rock.
Does this remind anyone of the RJ Umberger situation before he was drafted? RJ has never had 'attitude problems' near his name, but he was supposed to be one of the top guys in the 2001 draft, but ended up only being selected at #16 overall.
Could Schremp me something like an Umberger, or an O'Sullivan? It'll be interesting to see where he goes in the draft, and what team takes a gamble on him. I am of the opinion (though I've only see him play once) that he has, very clearly, NHL talents, and from my look of it, I think he'll be a very good NHL'er, better than most of the 2004 class at least (I'm still not impressed with this draft year yet).