Well I wouldn't agree that HotD is a masterpiece, but imo it's very much better than Rings of Power. And I could say I'm biased as a Thrones fan but I grew up with Tolkien. Not Martin. I wanted so badly for this show to be good but I couldn't stomach it enough to even finish the first season. It's better than Wheel of Time...I'll give it that.
I guess we’ll see. I have a feeling after a very poor and uneventful S2 of HOTD, and based on how S2 of RoP looks so far with the trailers, that those opinions may change.
Maybe we watched different trailers. The one that I saw didn't make it appear any better than S1. It looked similarly fake and corny and the dialogue sounded as lame. Even if it ends up being an improvement, though, I'll likely still take the disappointing S2 of HotD over it. At least HotD has terrific production design and dialogue and characters with personalities and motivations. RoP doesn't and relies on tropes and IP references, which I find more tiresome and boring than slow, uneventful plots.
Funny because everything you just said about RoP I feel about HOTD. Their production design and cinematography is terrible. Their characters are very one-dimensional and I feel no connection to them as opposed to GoT S1-4 at least. They focus on very specific scenes like Alicent floating instead of giving context for other scenes. The pacing is absolutely terrible. HOTD is relying on references to the long night to push its story too and other tropes.
Hopefully you can be unbiased as well. Pretty clear it could be dogshit and you will say it was amazing lol (like the 1st season).
Lots of people really enjoyed it but next time I’ll consult you the authority on all things tv who called HOTD a masterpiece lol when in reality it’s the equivalent of a Telemundo soap opera
I'm not that obsessed with something exactly following the source material, I really don't give a shit whether it is "fan fiction" or not. It's irrelevant to its quality. The problem is that the series was full of plot holes, bad dialogue, and shoddy characters.It’s high-budget fan fiction. There is no way it can do justice to Tolkien.
When Peter Jackson’s films came out I didn’t really like them. I’ve come to appreciate them for what they are, an honest attempt to put a complicated story on the screen. But in a way I think it’s a shame he made them back them. GoT showed what you could do with fantasy in a series format. I think LotR might have worked better if Jackson (or whomever) made it today as a series. Think three 12 (or whatever) episode seasons rather than 3 movies. You could have so much of the depth of the books that the movies (unfortunately but understandably) left out.
But instead we get RoP.
Personal taste aside I don't think you could be more wrong here, the LotR trilogy probably came out at just the right time. First of all GoT or not you can't get the same budget on a TV show that you can on the big screen, so Fellowship would be fine but for Two Towers and Return of the King the big battle scenes will be greatly reduced. Speaking of which, the trilogy was kind of the last hurrah of special effects, done 10 years later and it would be mostly CGI like the Hobbit Trilogy was.It’s high-budget fan fiction. There is no way it can do justice to Tolkien.
When Peter Jackson’s films came out I didn’t really like them. I’ve come to appreciate them for what they are, an honest attempt to put a complicated story on the screen. But in a way I think it’s a shame he made them back them. GoT showed what you could do with fantasy in a series format. I think LotR might have worked better if Jackson (or whomever) made it today as a series. Think three 12 (or whatever) episode seasons rather than 3 movies. You could have so much of the depth of the books that the movies (unfortunately but understandably) left out.
But instead we get RoP.
If done today, we would get new characters and events spliced in the story to "enhance it". Anything considered "problematic" would get changed too.
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