Speculation: *Rifai vs. Liljegren. Rifai Clears. Liljegren healthy scratch.

With the winds of change blowing through the Scotiabank Arena, who will be their 6th D?


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Tak7

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It’s the result everyone without a weird Liljegren hate obsession was expecting. Lily isn’t perfect, and he’s definitely a guy who leaves you wanting more in terms of potential vs reality, but he’s clearly better than Rifai, it’s not that close.
Is he $2m better than the guys he's competing against?
For me, he isn't.
It's crazy that they went from wanting to trade him, to signing him to $3m x 2, all within a matter of days.
The Samsonov arbitration award really scared the hell out of them and they panicked.
 
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ULF_55

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Is he $2m better than the guys he's competing against?
For me, he isn't.
It's crazy that they went from wanting to trade him, to signing him to $3m x 2, all within a matter of days.
The Samsonov arbitration award really scared the hell out of them and they panicked.

It would be nice if that was the way it worked.

Too bad the NHL doesn't permit performance based compensation.

Goals * y$
Assists * x$
Save Percentage * w$

et cetera.

Union Step approach + performance money ...

We won't get into tax ratio.
 
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stickty111

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Timmins and Rifai throw down.
Winner to face Liljegren.
Unless Liljegren is banned from hockey all together. In fact I expect an annoucement soon from the NHL saying "the NHL has determined that Timothy Liljegren will no longer be allowed to play in the NHL, which will include all levels of hockey including community rinks across the world as a result of his incompetent play. He is shaming the sport and hope to never associate his name with hockey again".

The NHL will further comment when Marshall Rifai and Connor Timmins are given Co norris trophies on Wednesday October 9th before puck drop.
 

Ianturnedbull

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He does need to make the jump this season. The 3m is basically the no excuses contract. They invested heavily developing him and he needs to do something special.

The tools are there. Its his head that isnt. Sort of like Alex Nylander. Not talking about smarts here. Drive determination confidence in making a decision that is good without second guessing.
I will submit just a bit and agree that Timothy Liljegren is indeed a human being.
 

HamiltonNHL

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The fear of a player succeeding elsewhere cannot be the driving force in making roster decisions, because you must build your roster with an idea in mind, not out of a fear drive.
MLSE employees take the easy route.

During that time he played really well and the PP ran like a well oiled machine. As soon as Reilly comes back from my memory he no longer even got 2nd PP duties and his game went to shit (as did the PP).
Reilly is definitely a PP2 player.

Leafs aren’t going to deal one of their few righties to play another left-handed guy at right defence, full stop.
Absolutely
 

Its not your fault

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Unless Liljegren is banned from hockey all together. In fact I expect an annoucement soon from the NHL saying "the NHL has determined that Timothy Liljegren will no longer be allowed to play in the NHL, which will include all levels of hockey including community rinks across the world as a result of his incompetent play. He is shaming the sport and hope to never associate his name with hockey again".

The NHL will further comment when Marshall Rifai and Connor Timmins are given Co norris trophies on Wednesday October 9th before puck drop.
Finally it goes to the best defensive defenseman.
 

Stephen

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If you saw Rifai and Liligren play (and don’t know who was who), were not told what round they were drafted in or how old they are, most people would say Rifai is better. But people can’t get over Liligren being a former 1st rd pick, he’s just not good.

I think people would clue in that it’s a trick question!

Liljegren is smooth at what he does and shows flashes of higher end ability but he lacks the competitiveness and bite we’ve seen out of Rifai. If he has that personality and pace he’d be a much more impactful player and could carve out a Rasmus Andersson type career. Haven’t watched Rifai too much to know what his big limitations are.
 

TopCheeseShotta

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Thread should've always been Lilly vs Myers, rather than Rifai I guess? Hahaaaaa.

Nooobody had Myers on their bingo card of hopefuls going into camp, and this guy just played solid enough and stayed mistake free - and straight stole a job. Good for him!!
 

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