What? When he was 10 years old? Someone fix the wiki.
There was a defenseman drafted in 94 by Phili named Artem Anisimov according to hockeydb
What? When he was 10 years old? Someone fix the wiki.
What? When he was 10 years old? Someone fix the wiki.
Love the Nash trade, then we acquire another lazy winger not much later in Gaborik. So that hurts the good feelings a little.
I think Howson did a decent job with the hand that he had to play. The buzzards were circling around the Nash trade so I'm grateful that he didn't make a snap decision. Watching Nash play out the season was a bit painful though. In the end I really wish JD would have cut the cord on Howson earlier and let the new GM make this trade, I would have loved to seen what Jarmo or anyone else might have gotten. All in all, good trade for the CBJ.
honestly, I think it's worked out well for both teams....
It essentially all turned into..
To Jackets:
Marian Gaborik (we had to free up the cap space)
Brandon Dubinsky
Artem Anisimov
Tim Erixon
1st rd pick
To Rangers:
Rick Nash
Derick Brassard
John Moore
Derek Dorsett
can't really complain either way. however, we also have to see how gaborik performs this year and if the Jackets can extend him if he has a good season or want to.
Thank goodness we had a senior advisor who counseled Howson to make this move.
It seems that, even now, absolutely nothing constructive, positive, or even neutral can ever, ever be attributed to Howson doing a competent job. No, no, everything he's responsible for HAS to be a failure, because otherwise we were wrong to fire him or we haven't solved all or problems or something. G-d forbid we ever not have somebody to throw under the bus.Thank goodness we had a senior advisor who counseled Howson to make this move.
It seems that, even now, absolutely nothing constructive, positive, or even neutral can ever, ever be attributed to Howson doing a competent job. No, no, everything he's responsible for HAS to be a failure, because otherwise we were wrong to fire him or we haven't solved all or problems or something. G-d forbid we ever not have somebody to throw under the bus.
Sorry, mine was first.Most people just refer to him as "JD".
At the time, I thought it would be viewed as a Thornton esque trade,a move that, while for a bad return, would prove to be beneficial to the club in the long term because it forced them to go in a different direction. So basically, it was an automatic win for the Jackets in my mind, no matter what the return was.
At some point, the phrase "we're better off without Rick Nash than with him" would be obvious to everybody. Never would I have thought that point would come less than a year into the trade.
So I'm at an 8/10 on the happiness scale regarding this trade.
This, my only complaint is that the trade (or a trade) moving Nash didn't come sooner...
honestly, I think it's worked out well for both teams....
It essentially all turned into..
To Jackets:
Marian Gaborik (we had to free up the cap space)
Brandon Dubinsky
Artem Anisimov
Tim Erixon
1st rd pick
To Rangers:
Rick Nash
Derick Brassard
John Moore
Derek Dorsett
can't really complain either way. however, we also have to see how gaborik performs this year and if the Jackets can extend him if he has a good season or want to.
IMO
Gaborik < Nash
Anisimov > Brassard
Dubinsky > Dorsett
Erixon = Moore
1st > 3rd
Agreed, Howson could have got the same value back if he had moved Nash when the request was made that winter....
but we could have ended up with Kreider, Thomas, and Miller instead of Anisimov, Erixon and the 1st (Rychel).
What are ya talkin about? We woulda been lucky to get 2 of those blue chippers along with a 1st. Have to bump that 3rd to a 2nd for the best young wing prospect in the league..Nash/Delisle/2nd for Kreider/Dubinsky/1st
I'd love to know the other ("better") deals that were offered and not fully agreed on for whatever reasons. I'm sure there were packages that were more prospect heavy and i'm glad Howson held out for the one he did. I have to disagree with the idea that there was a better offer at ANY time though, even before Howson's public comments. If there really was an issue and he wanted out bad enough i'm sure people around the league, along with the GM's, would have a pretty good idea. I think its pretty clear the reason it took so long is because Howson was driving the price up for as long and as high as he could. I still don't understand how people could say it was a bad trade for us. It was split pretty even on here.
Agreed, Howson could have got the same value back if he had moved Nash when the request was made that winter.
IMO
Gaborik < Nash
Anisimov > Brassard
Dubinsky > Dorsett
Erixon = Moore
1st > 3rd
I for one would rather have Anisimov, Erixon, and Rychel over Kreider, Thomas, and Miller.
It seems that, even now, absolutely nothing constructive, positive, or even neutral can ever, ever be attributed to Howson doing a competent job. No, no, everything he's responsible for HAS to be a failure, because otherwise we were wrong to fire him or we haven't solved all or problems or something. G-d forbid we ever not have somebody to throw under the bus.
I'm liking the results so far of the move to Kekalainen as GM. That doesn't mean that Howson deserves eternal damnation.
Well said.