Rewatching Game of Thrones

[Felidae]

I mean, the red wedding scene was probably a top 3 scene of the show if not the best. You can't compare that to the Shireen death scene. Which i don't think was THAT horrible, it showed what a terrible leader and person Stannis was, and how the lady in red could manipulate people. It had it's purpose but definitely not too memorable like the Red Wedding.

I meant in terms of being hard to watch (or listen to) Although that may still be unpopular.

I even said in my post the red wedding was more impactful, and I agree, more memorable overall.

 

[DaaaaB's]

When Melasandre lit the Dothraki swords ,one of the greatest scenes ever..just epic.

Then they sent the Dothraki to die in one of the worst military strategies I've ever seen.

 

[Primary Assist]

Jaime and Sam surviving that episode has to be some of the worst plot armor of all time. We saw wights overrun and tear experienced fighters to shreds but somehow the one handed guy and the fat guy that could never fight made it out of the pile? OK.

And they could have had actually made it make sense. Jaime or Sam cornered by wights? That's a chance to let Brienne or Jon or the Hound or even Ser Jorah kill the White Walker that commands that group of wights in badass 1 on 1 combat. That way we get the cool battle scene, while also staying true the "rules" the show set that killing the lead White Walker also kills the wights under its command. Building up tension while also respecting the audience's tolerance for disbelief.

As I said at the time about the Battle of Winterfell, that shite was dark and full of errors

 

[Primary Assist]

Two more things about that godawful Battle of Winterfell:

We were absolutely ROBBED of the Hound wielding a fiery sword provided by the Lord of Light to fight the wights and save Sansa. Beric "the Barrier" Dondarrion could have actually made a cool sacrifice by using his last breath of R'Hollor's magic to light the Hound's sword. Then we would get a callback to their duel earlier in the series, which was hands down one of the show's best scenes, and we would get immense character growth for Sandor that he could overcome his fears to protect the Stark girls like the Direwolf that he is.

And after all that mystery of the tombs beneath Winterfell and the Old Gods - why the heck didn't we get Stark zombies rising up to fight the wights? There must always be a Stark in Winterfell and Stark zombies would have been such an awesome payoff to show their relation to the First Men and the undead.

And on that note where the heck was Nymeria? In the novels she is assembling a giant pack of feral wolves and she's clearly up to something. It would have been sweet to see the wolves spring into action against Kings Landing.

I'm getting too angry thinking about this. Personally I think GRRM is the guiltiest party for not delivering us the Prince that was Promised (in other words, a completed series). But still! The first few seasons are literally the best TV ever created because they set up so many amazing moments that came to fruition later. The latter seasons threw all that away for empty spectacle and poor plotting

 

[JohnC]

RE the crypt: why stash the women and children down there when your main enemy can literally resurrect the dead?

I’d have to rewatch it, but my only fond memories of it are the flaming weapons, the final Night King theme, and giving Theon the best arc in the show.

 

[Neutrinos]

One of my criticisms of the show was that the giant wasn't given a weapon in the Battle Of The Bastards...

At least give him a big stick!

 

[JohnC]

The precedent for the big stick was there. He used a big stick at Hardhome!

 

[The Crypto Guy]

One of my criticisms of the show was that the giant wasn't given a weapon in the Battle Of The Bastards...

At least give him a big stick!
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He could have slapshotted the people around! That would have been epic.

 

[WarriorOfGandhi]

I recall a lot of criticism of the show starting to accelerate by season 5, particularly the lousyness of the Dorne subplot. It was clear by then that the showrunners were deviating heavily from the books, often to their detriment. There were a bunch of shifts in tone, including (but not limited to) ramping up the torture porn and having a lot of scenes where characters stand around talking about off-screen characters without reaching anything resembling a resolution.

 

[SPV]

I’m probably in the minority, but the payoffs in the last few seasons are the only parts I prefer to rewatch. I have no desire to watch the main characters suffer for multiple hours again. I do wish the ending was spread out more and different, the alternate ending on YouTube is much better.

 

[x Tame Impala]

And after all that mystery of the tombs beneath Winterfell and the Old Gods - why the heck didn't we get Stark zombies rising up to fight the wights? There must always be a Stark in Winterfell and Stark zombies would have been such an awesome payoff to show their relation to the First Men and the undead.

That would've been f***ing sick.

 

[HanSolo]

RE the crypt: why stash the women and children down there when your main enemy can literally resurrect the dead?

I’d have to rewatch it, but my only fond memories of it are the flaming weapons, the final Night King theme, and giving Theon the best arc in the show.

Some of the visuals with the dragons torching wights were good, the shot of Dany and Jon riding the dragons above the clouds for a moment was good, a few Arya action sequences were good, Theon's sacrifice was...I mean some might say stupid but I thought it was well done. The score is pretty good.

The strategy itself is dumb. The women and children should have been housed in Riverrun or the Eyrie or anywhere besides Winterfell's crypts. They for real dumbed down Tyrion just to have some horror sequences. The Arya kill of the Night King is unearned and anticlimactic. The plot armor moments are a cheap way to make the the audience gasp and worry. There should have been tight spots and more character deaths but having key characters up to their necks in zombie bodies only to survive, I mean the fake out death with Glenn in the Walking Dead was one of my breaking points with that show and they did it with like what, 5 characters in one episode? And the whole thing was too goddamn dark. I rewatched the episode in pitch black darkness and I still struggled to make some moments out. Fog of war is all well and good for authenticity but it can make for a miserable entertainment experience.

I tried to justify that episode because it was Sapochnik directing a critical battle, but it's one where after time to stew on it, I was definitely in denial. It's not the worst thing ever but it could have and should have been much better.

 

[NyQuil]

Two more things about that godawful Battle of Winterfell:

We were absolutely ROBBED of the Hound wielding a fiery sword provided by the Lord of Light to fight the wights and save Sansa. Beric "the Barrier" Dondarrion could have actually made a cool sacrifice by using his last breath of R'Hollor's magic to light the Hound's sword. Then we would get a callback to their duel earlier in the series, which was hands down one of the show's best scenes, and we would get immense character growth for Sandor that he could overcome his fears to protect the Stark girls like the Direwolf that he is.

And after all that mystery of the tombs beneath Winterfell and the Old Gods - why the heck didn't we get Stark zombies rising up to fight the wights? There must always be a Stark in Winterfell and Stark zombies would have been such an awesome payoff to show their relation to the First Men and the undead.

And on that note where the heck was Nymeria? In the novels she is assembling a giant pack of feral wolves and she's clearly up to something. It would have been sweet to see the wolves spring into action against Kings Landing.

I'm getting too angry thinking about this. Personally I think GRRM is the guiltiest party for not delivering us the Prince that was Promised (in other words, a completed series). But still! The first few seasons are literally the best TV ever created because they set up so many amazing moments that came to fruition later. The latter seasons threw all that away for empty spectacle and poor plotting

What I liked about GoT is that everything wasn't just a neat and tidy fan service for the most part.

It's what helped distinguish it from other fantasy.

My main issue with the battle at Winterfell is that it was too dark to really see what was going on.

 

[I am not exposed]

What I liked about GoT is that everything wasn't just a neat and tidy fan service for the most part.

It's what helped distinguish it from other fantasy.

My main issue with the battle at Winterfell is that it was too dark to really see what was going on.

Originally, no.

But those later seasons seemed to be. Clegane bowl.

Also Tyrion was supposed to be this really smart character, but he made some of the most boneheaded decisions as the seasons went on.

 

[HanSolo]

Originally, no.

But those later seasons seemed to be. Clegane bowl.

Also Tyrion was supposed to be this really smart character, but he made some of the most boneheaded decisions as the seasons went on.

I think the concept of the Clegane brothers' story ending in a fight to the death is a good one. Sure fans may have made a meme out of it but there's plenty of backstory to warrant the outcome. But shoehorning it in with the destruction and devastation of kings landing just felt like a cheap way to distract the viewers from the awful acts unfolding on the screen.

To say nothing of the fact that the decision to zombify Gregor robs the moment of emotional impact since it really could have been any combatant standing in the Mountain's way.

 

[sdf]

Kinda garbage show, no any character that i would like, and wtf with the constant desire of these show runners to rising up my dick by all of that scenes with prostitutes and nudity, cringey as f***

 

[GreytWun]

My biggest complaint was Cersei not dying a more horrific death. Just stood in the basement and had the roof collapse on her. f*** that.

 

[JohnC]

My biggest complaint was Cersei not dying a more horrific death. Just stood in the basement and had the roof collapse on her. f*** that.

The entire Red Keep collapsed on top of her and Jaime and Tyrion only had to move a few rocks to find their bodies!

 

[GreytWun]

The entire Red Keep collapsed on top of her and Jaime and Tyrion only had to move a few rocks to find their bodies!

It was too quick. Needed to be a slower miserable death.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Thing that sucks about GoT discussion is just in one page we have people who love it for lack of fan service, hating it for some fan service, then hating on it for not getting the fan service they wanted

 

[The Crypto Guy]

My biggest complaint was Cersei not dying a more horrific death. Just stood in the basement and had the roof collapse on her. f*** that.

I liked that death scene. Jamie was a favorite so it had conflicting feelings during it. There were much worse death scenes than theirs (Missandei comes to mind quickly, rushed and dumb)

 

[DaaaaB's]

I liked that death scene. Jamie was a favorite so it had conflicting feelings during it. There were much worse death scenes than theirs (Missandei comes to mind quickly, rushed and dumb)

Missandei was a nothing character. Cersei was the main villain of the show, she deserved worse.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Missandei was a nothing character. Cersei was the main villain of the show, she deserved worse.

I guess, but she was still with her brother so if they were both going out the same time it was somewhat fitting. We wouldn't want Jamie having a horrible death.

Truthfully, none of the villains really had a good fitting death, aside from Ramsey and I guess the Knight King.

 

[Scotianhab]

Cersei should have been fed to Drogon after Jamie & Greyworm fight each other to death.

 

[TheAngryHank]

Cersei should have been fed to Drogon after Jamie & Greyworm fight each other to death.

Arya tries to kill Cerci and Jamie steps in, Breanne of Tarth steps up to her vows to lady stark and must kill her true love.