Report: Yanni Gourde would be willing to waive his M-NTC for the Maple Leafs

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Gourde would be the typical Leafs deadline acquisition.

Old and useless. With a high acquisition cost. For little to no return on investment.

The only way Gourde is a difference maker is in the negative sense.

There's a reason Tampa exposed him. Because they're a real contender who wants to win again now. They didn't see Gourde as a valuable enough contributor to their success.

So they protected seven other forwards ahead of him.

That should tell you something right there. Add in the fact Gourde's production has taken a dip the last couple years and I don't see him as much better than what the Leafs already got. Certainly not enough of an improvement to justify the price they'd have to pay.

Unless it's Robertson straight up I'd rather they keep their assets than trade for Gourde.

 

[thusk]

Gourde would be the typical Leafs deadline acquisition.

Old and useless. With a high acquisition cost. For little to no return on investment.

The only way Gourde is a difference maker is in the negative sense.

There's a reason Tampa exposed him. Because they're a real contender who wants to win again now. They didn't see Gourde as a valuable enough contributor to their success.

So they protected seven other forwards ahead of him.

That should tell you something right there. Add in the fact Gourde's production has taken a dip the last couple years and I don't see him as much better than what the Leafs already got. Certainly not enough of an improvement to justify the price they'd have to pay.

Unless it's Robertson straight up I'd rather they keep their assets than trade for Gourde.

Tampa protected 4 foward Kucherov, point, stamkos and Cirelli and had 4 pretty solid D to protect in Hedman, sergachev, mcdonaugh and Cernak. that's why Gourde had been expose and the fact he didn't had cap space anymore for him

Gourde would be 5th amount leafs player in term of 5v5 pts despite he played the entire year on 3rd/4th line in Seattle...

What do you expect from a 3C? Get a 3C producing at the same rate of the player paid 11M+ on a 3rd line ?!?!?!

 

[nuck]

Tampa protected 4 foward Kucherov, point, stamkos and Cirelli and had
4 pretty solid D to protect in Hedman, sergachev, mcdonaugh and Cernak. that's why Gourde had been expose and the fact he didn't had cap space anymore for him

Gourde would be 5th amount leafs player in term of 5v5 pts despite he played the entire year on 3rd/4th line in Seattle...

What do you expect from a 3C? Get a 3C producing at the same rate of the player paid 11M+ on a 3rd line ?!?!?!

He was great for Seattle in the playoffs a couple of years ago. Depends on the ask.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Tampa protected 4 foward Kucherov, point, stamkos and Cirelli and had 4 pretty solid D to protect in Hedman, sergachev, mcdonaugh and Cernak. that's why Gourde had been expose and the fact he didn't had cap space anymore for him

Gourde would be 5th amount leafs player in term of 5v5 pts despite he played the entire year on 3rd/4th line in Seattle...

What do you expect from a 3C? Get a 3C producing at the same rate of the player paid 11M+ on a 3rd line ?!?!?!

I don't think a 3C is a big enough difference maker.

A 1RHD would be. Or a 1LW since Knies isn't doing all that hot lately. 3C is such a minor role on the team it barely pushes the needle in terms of success.

Go big or go home.

 

[Anthrax442]

Gourde and Schenn - lets go!

 

[thusk]

I don't think a 3C is a big enough difference maker.

A 1RHD would be. Or a 1LW since Knies isn't doing all that hot lately. 3C is such a minor role on the team it barely pushes the needle in terms of success.

Go big or go home.

Don't underrated impact of depht, that's where leafs lost the fight last 5 year.

Get depht who able to bring back emotion and momemtum at key time in a serie can be the difference between win or lost

2024
started with a goal from depht by boston and never lost the lead
gm 3
tie the game 4 minute after knies goal 2 min before end of 1st period
gm 4- 1st goal of the game and boston never lost the lead
gm 5 tying goal to force OT
gm 7 gm tying goal to force ot

2023
gm 2 leafs 2 goal lead and florida 3rd line bring them to life with a goal before end of period
gm 3 winning goal in OT

tb gm 1 - Bellemare open the scoring 1 min into the game and tmpa took momemtum and never lost the lead
gm 5 depht scored 2nd and 3rd to give a 2 goal lead

2022
gm 2 perry gave up a 2goal lead and broking leafs momemtum to start second period
gm 4 they scored 4 goal in a row to give a 5-0 lead
gm 5 tie the game with 12 minutes left in 3rd
gm 6 gave up a 2-0 lead but tampa failed to keep it
gm 7 scored both goal for a 2-1 win


How many game did leafs lost last 5 years because their depht had been outplayed by opponent depht???

So no upgrading 3C is not minor, YOU NEED depht to win in playoff. If you don't you will lost for sure.

 

[nuck]

I don't think a 3C is a big enough difference maker.

A 1RHD would be. Or a 1LW since Knies isn't doing all that hot lately. 3C is such a minor role on the team it barely pushes the needle in terms of success.

Go big or go home.

They don't have the pieces for a #1RD. A #1 LW still leaves Kampf or Domi as #3C if they could even get one for Cowan+++. They went big with the $45M in forwards and gave NM to anyone who would get a strong return. This isn't a year for big game hunting. No cap and few assets of worth.

 

[thusk]

They don't have the pieces for a #1RD. A #1 LW still leaves Kampf or Domi as #3C if they could even get one for Cowan+++. They went big with the $45M in forwards and gave NM to anyone who would get a strong return. This isn't a year for big game hunting. No cap and few assets of worth.

I don't think a 3C is a big enough difference maker.

A 1RHD would be. Or a 1LW since Knies isn't doing all that hot lately. 3C is such a minor role on the team it barely pushes the needle in terms of success.

Go big or go home.

I will add...Mcmann and pacioretty are right now 3rd and 4th in pts/60 min at 5v5 behind marner and tavares

 

[ULF_55]

Leafs don't need another 3rd. line center.

They need a center capable of playing the 2nd. line.

Leafs already have Domi as a 3rd. line center.

Now if you could do Kampf for Gourde straight across it would make sense.

Bigger question is why would a team trying to make the playoffs trade away their 3rd. line center?

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Leafs don't need another 3rd. line center.

They need a center capable of playing the 2nd. line.

Leafs already have Domi as a 3rd. line center.

Now if you could do Kampf for Gourde straight across it would make sense.

Bigger question is why would a team trying to make the playoffs trade away their 3rd. line center?

Did you maybe want to mention that you have good authority that Matthews is out for the season?

 

[ULF_55]

Did you maybe want to mention that you have good authority that Matthews is out for the season?

Only his word that he isn't confident he'll be better by end of year.

You can play a 2nd. line center on the 3rd. line, but not so much the other way.

 

[thusk]

Only his word that he isn't confident he'll be better by end of year.

You can play a 2nd. line center on the 3rd. line, but not so much the other way.

How to make a whole story with nothing

What the news with what he said seriously who making thing different from yesterday?!?!

He hurt (same all year long) and didn't recover like expected (same, if it would not be the case he would already playing). We don't know when he will come back and how he will come back( same as yesterday)

So what's new to now have to completly change everything because of a playerwho's basically said nothing new. I really don't understand

 

[ULF_55]

How to make a whole story with nothing

What the news with what he said seriously who making thing different from yesterday?!?!

He hurt (same all year long) and didn't recover like expected (same, if it would not be the case he would already playing). We don't know when he will come back and how he will come back( same as yesterday)

So what's new to now have to completly change everything because of a playerwho's basically said nothing new. I really don't understand

Matthews sent the warning shot across the bow.

 

[thusk]

Matthews sent the warning shot across the bow.

He just dont know like everybody...

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Don’t give up on Cowan when he’s probably going to be a 10 year pro and high skill guy

No way in hell Gourde has that kind of value.

 

[thusk]

No way in hell Gourde has that kind of value.

Gourde would probably be like a 2nd a B prospect

 

[arso40]

Gourde would probably be like a 2nd a B prospect

Maybe kampf with knies and Willy takes off

 

[thusk]

Maybe kampf with knies and Willy takes off

I want an upgrade at C to get Matthews/ marner / Nylander split driving their own line

 

[arso40]

I want an upgrade at C to get Matthews/ marner / Nylander split driving their own line

No for sure it was a joke with a hint of truth but I agree with the upgrade

 

[banks]

Gourde is a good player, and I'd be happy if he was the #3C. But I don't know if that's really enough of an add at the deadline. I agree with those that have said he doesn't move the needle enough.

Trade for him? Sure, why not. But there had better be bigger/better moves as well.

 

[Nineteen67]

MSN

I think this would be an interesting addition.

Seattle Kraken forward Yanni Gourde would reportedly be open to waiving his modified no-trade clause (M-NTC) for the Toronto Maple Leafs.

The Athletic conducted an NHL trade matchmaker, and Gourde was included among the players on the list. TSN’s Pierre LeBrun picked the Leafs as the perfect fit, noting that the centre would be willing to go to Toronto if the Kraken opted to ship him out.


An obvious caveat is that this all depends on what Seattle plans on doing with the 33-year-old as last season saw Jordan Eberle on the block but was suddenly extended right before the deadline. It is also dependent on how the season goes for the Kraken in the latter half, though they sit eight points out of the final Wild Card spot in the West at the time of filing.


With reports that Gourde has not had many extension talks with the Kraken and is mired in a five-game losing streak, it seems logical that they could be open to selling off parts of their roster as the season progresses. They have already shipped away pending UFA Will Borgen to bring back Kaapo Kakko, and there could be more moves with the future in mind on the way in Seattle.

Since Gourde is willing to waive his M-NTC for the Leafs and the team requires bolstering its depth up the middle, the two teams seem like logical trade partners. GM Brad Treliving has made it known he wants to get a third-line centre, and the team has been reportedly looking to find one since the start of training camp. Toronto and Seattle seem like logical trade partners in this endeavour, with the only question remaining being how much it would cost to get Gourde.

.. follow the link for the rest of the article...

Lebrun didn’t quote Gourde or anyone associated with him.

 

[Fogelhund]

Leafs don't need another 3rd. line center.

They need a center capable of playing the 2nd. line.

Leafs already have Domi as a 3rd. line center.

Now if you could do Kampf for Gourde straight across it would make sense.

Bigger question is why would a team trying to make the playoffs trade away their 3rd. line center?

If Matthews is done for the season, no rental C is going to make us a contender. Spending assets would be silly.

Seattle isn't making the playoffs, that much should be obvious.

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Gourde isn't my ideal target, but if the price is cheap enough, I don't mind it too much.

I'd love to grab Krebs as a 3C, younger, bigger and more upside... no idea what Buffalo is going to do, but you can never discount their madness. He was almost moved this past offseason.

During the latest episode of 32 Thoughts: The Podcast, NHL insider Elliotte Friedman shared that the Sabres considered trading Krebs before getting this contract finalized.

Here is what Friedman said on the matter:

"A couple days ago, I had heard that Krebs might be traded.

 

[ULF_55]

If Matthews is done for the season, no rental C is going to make us a contender. Spending assets would be silly.

Seattle isn't making the playoffs, that much should be obvious.

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Gourde isn't my ideal target, but if the price is cheap enough, I don't mind it too much.

I'd love to grab Krebs as a 3C, younger, bigger and more upside... no idea what Buffalo is going to do, but you can never discount their madness. He was almost moved this past offseason.

During the latest episode of 32 Thoughts: The Podcast, NHL insider Elliotte Friedman shared that the Sabres considered trading Krebs before getting this contract finalized.

Here is what Friedman said on the matter:

"A couple days ago, I had heard that Krebs might be traded.

With the iffy health issues, I'd happily pay the going rate for a 2nd. line center, and put him on the 3rd. line.

How many times do we read, put marner, Matthews, Nylander on their own lines.

That makes no sense if marner or Nylander have Domi or Kampf as their center.

 

[Stephen]

Gourde would be the typical Leafs deadline acquisition.

Old and useless. With a high acquisition cost. For little to no return on investment.

The only way Gourde is a difference maker is in the negative sense.

There's a reason Tampa exposed him. Because they're a real contender who wants to win again now. They didn't see Gourde as a valuable enough contributor to their success.

So they protected seven other forwards ahead of him.

That should tell you something right there. Add in the fact Gourde's production has taken a dip the last couple years and I don't see him as much better than what the Leafs already got. Certainly not enough of an improvement to justify the price they'd have to pay.

Unless it's Robertson straight up I'd rather they keep their assets than trade for Gourde.

I feel like it would be similar to the Giordano move from Seattle a few years ago, you'll see moments where you see his value but it will be low on batteries and the contribution will be inconsistent.

 

[sxvnert]

Would be fine with him if the cost is a 2nd + prospect. A 1st is way too expensive.