Speculation: Report: Rangers inquired about Canucks' Miller

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Oh look another clueless take about Miller, one of the most loved players in the locker room, EP doesn't get along with anyone and either did Horvat, you'd know that if you did even a modicum of research as for you offer, thats a joke right?
Damn, you know more than insiders! You don't happen to be an actual player on the Canucks roster? I'm starting to get suspicious..

What research brings you to that conclusion? I mean, are we using speculative talk by journalists as proof of fact again? I mean those guys know everything and are never wrong right?

Outside of speculation, anything that comes out from Canucks players and interviews, player segments, social media posts indicate that it's a tight knit group.

Biz is talking out his a**. There's not been any documentation of a drift. Pure baseless speculation.

Peteys struggles are his own and he started producing before Miller took time off.
 

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Damn, you know more than insiders! You don't happen to be an actual player on the Canucks roster? I'm starting to get suspicious..

What research brings you to that conclusion? I mean, are we using speculative talk by journalists as proof of fact again? I mean those guys know everything and are never wrong right?

Outside of speculation, anything that comes out from Canucks players and interviews, player segments, social media posts indicate that it's a tight knit group.

Biz is talking out his a**. There's not been any documentation of a drift. Pure baseless speculation.

Peteys struggles are his own and he started producing before Miller took time off.
Go back and look at interviews, and try reading between the lines, Horvat was on one side and Miller was on the other, widely speculated, too much smoke for it to be pure baseless speculation, same with EP, the way him and Miller talk about each other, very different players, not saying they despise each other, but based on comments both have made they aren't friends.

There has been plenty of speculation about this and documentation about those two not getting along with each other. Just because you weren't paying attention doesn't mean it isn't true. Players can also not like each other and still co-exist, which I think has happened here and will continue to.

Yah EP did start producing before Miller left, I think the narrative that he is only doing well because Miller isn't there is BS.

Also newsflash, you can be a tight knit group and still have different personalities that don't see eye to eye.
 

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Go back and look at interviews, and try reading between the lines, Horvat was on one side and Miller was on the other, widely speculated, too much smoke for it to be pure baseless speculation, same with EP, the way him and Miller talk about each other, very different players, not saying they despise each other, but based on comments both have made they aren't friends.

There has been plenty of speculation about this and documentation about those two not getting along with each other. Just because you weren't paying attention doesn't mean it isn't true. Players can also not like each other and still co-exist, which I think has happened here and will continue to.

Yah EP did start producing before Miller left, I think the narrative that he is only doing well because Miller isn't there is BS.

Also newsflash, you can be a tight knit group and still have different personalities that don't see eye to eye.
All this is is you trying to justify how reading between the lines, speculating, and having that echoed to yourself somehow is more factual than not. Rumors aren't fact. They don't become more factual the more they're repeated.

Believe me, I pay attention, I don't assume things or lean into conspiracy drabble to explain what most likely is two players struggling mentally and physically for different reasons.

Vancouer is a hockey crazy market as you know. There are lots of people that depend on clicks for their paychecks in hockey media and they're also in competition with each other. That's called incentive. Incentive to dramatize things for attention. Canucks fans are easy pickings because a lot of us are obsessed with the team.

Has a single core player not been on the Canucks trade block at some point according to the same "sources" you now are treating like the bringers of truth? Has there ever not been some dramatic story going on or a new narrative? Brock wants out, Petey hates Miller, Miller wants out, Let's trade Demko, Quinn wants to play with his brothers, Rutherford is the devil, Brackett wanted to be GM, Benning didn't do this but did that.. etc etc. It's Tmz.
 

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All this is is you trying to justify how reading between the lines, speculating, and having that echoed to yourself somehow is more factual than not. Rumors aren't fact. They don't become more factual the more they're repeated.

Believe me, I pay attention, I don't assume things or lean into conspiracy drabble to explain what most likely is two players struggling mentally and physically for different reasons.

Vancouer is a hockey crazy market as you know. There are lots of people that depend on clicks for their paychecks in hockey media. Canucks fans are easy pickings.

Has a single core player not been on the Canucks trade block at some point according to the same "sources" you now are treating like the bringers of truth? They're all still with the team.
Ahh yes, because you don't agree with it, that means its all conspiracy theories, lol

I am sure EP and Miller are best friends, because you said so.
 

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Ahh yes, because you don't agree with it, that means its all conspiracy theories, lol

I am sure EP and Miller are best friends, because you said so.
It's not about me agreeing or disagreeing with something. There isn't something other than rumours or speculation so therefor nothing to disagree or agree on. It's fabrication, or it's not. We don't know.

I can't get over the "read between the lines" comment. If I say I love the color blue, it means I love the color blue. How in the hell would anything other than that be more "truthful"? Let's NOT listen to what's said, that's not the truth, the truth is what a blogger tweeted that was NOT said, but was interpreted.. "between the lines". Wowzers.

Never once said they are best friends, hell, I don't even expect that they would be best friends? That's got nothing to do with my point but I guess you really don't have a point.

I'm pointing out how ridiculous it is to claim fact when you're absolutely clueless to a situation and then insinuating truth/fact because someone equally clueless as yourself says the same?

That's like the definition of a conspiracy theory. People tagging on baseless speculation outside of facts or in your case "read between the lines". Ridiculous.
 

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Starting to see a pattern of Drury putting all these rumors into the newsphere in hopes it leads to the trades actually occurring.
 
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Starting to see a pattern of Drury putting all these rumors into the newsphere in hopes it leads to the trades actually occurring.
Tell us more about the patterns you see
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It's not about me agreeing or disagreeing with something. There isn't something other than rumours or speculation so therefor nothing to disagree or agree on. It's fabrication, or it's not. We don't know.

I can't get over the "read between the lines" comment. If I say I love the color blue, it means I love the color blue. How in the hell would anything other than that be more "truthful"? Let's NOT listen to what's said, that's not the truth, the truth is what a blogger tweeted that was NOT said, but was interpreted.. "between the lines". Wowzers.

Never once said they are best friends, hell, I don't even expect that they would be best friends? That's got nothing to do with my point but I guess you really don't have a point.

I'm pointing out how ridiculous it is to claim fact when you're absolutely clueless to a situation and then insinuating truth/fact because someone equally clueless as yourself says the same?

That's like the definition of a conspiracy theory. People tagging on baseless speculation outside of facts or in your case "read between the lines". Ridiculous.
Media members on the national and local stage say they don't get along, local media who are around the team and players also speculate, over and over and over, actual players allude to it in interviews saying things like we are just different people.

So it could be true, or could not, but me speculating that it is, is wrong, and also I have no point.

All because you don't want to deal with the reality that EP and Miller probably don't like each other........

Again where there is smoke, there is usually fire, but yah, conspiracy theory, because you, again don't like the reality...
 

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It's never gotten out, but there is a reason Miller has been traded a few times. Not a good teammate. Told to go home this time.

I have to give the van media credit though. They have spun it nicely lol. They make him sound like better than prime messier. He's a warrior. He really wants to win.

You know you gotta play to win right? They are probably talking trade behind the scenes.
 
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It's never gotten out, but there is a reason Miller has been traded a few times. Not a good teammate. Told to go home this time.

I have to give the van media credit though. They have spun it nicely lol. They make him sound like better than prime messier. He's a warrior. He really wants to win.

You know you gotta play to win right? They are probably talking trade behind the scenes.

There is a reason, but it's the salary cap.
 

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It's never gotten out, but there is a reason Miller has been traded a few times. Not a good teammate. Told to go home this time.

I have to give the van media credit though. They have spun it nicely lol. They make him sound like better than prime messier. He's a warrior. He really wants to win.

You know you gotta play to win right? They are probably talking trade behind the scenes.
He’s supposed to be back practicing with the team Wednesday. You have no clue what you’re talking about.
 

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Media members on the national and local stage say they don't get along, local media who are around the team and players also speculate, over and over and over, actual players allude to it in interviews saying things like we are just different people.

So it could be true, or could not, but me speculating that it is, is wrong, and also I have no point.

All because you don't want to deal with the reality that EP and Miller probably don't like each other........

Again where there is smoke, there is usually fire, but yah, conspiracy theory, because you, again don't like the reality...
Why do you think I have some agenda about wanting EP and Miller to be best friends? Never once claimed it, I don't even care and it wasn't my point whatsoever. Everyone on the team has talked about how tight knit the group is, how special it is, so if anything there is more alluding to there not being a rift than there is?

I'll believe Tyler Myers and countless other Canuck players over Rick Dhaliwal for example - but you do you.

I'm not dealing with anything. Ever heard of source criticism? I guess I don't lean into conspiracy's because unlike what you are claiming, they are just that most of the time. There is always more smoke than there is actual fire. Most rumors in hockey media turn out to be untrue. Shocker.

Source to players alluding to it in interviews please. I have never seen that or heard that happen because then there wouldn't be any of this speculation going on. The answer would be right there for the both of us and the rest of the media, HF, and the universe. It would be absolutely MASSIVE NEWS to a lot of us.

Again, "don't like the reality" - You must understand how ridiculous it is to claim anything to be reality when all there is, is speculation and unproven theory. Can't just say something is "reality" when it's unproven. It's a question of understanding logic, definition of words, and about source criticism.

This is a pointless discussion - you failed the logic test. Good luck I guess.
 

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Why do you think I have some agenda about wanting EP and Miller to be best friends? Never once claimed it, I don't even care and it wasn't my point whatsoever. Everyone on the team has talked about how tight knit the group is, how special it is, so if anything there is more alluding to there not being a rift than there is?

I'll believe Tyler Myers and countless other Canuck players over Rick Dhaliwal for example - but you do you.

I'm not dealing with anything. Ever heard of source criticism? I guess I don't lean into conspiracy's because unlike what you are claiming, they are just that most of the time. There is always more smoke than there is actual fire. Most rumors in hockey media turn out to be untrue. Shocker.

Source to players alluding to it in interviews please. I have never seen that or heard that happen because then there wouldn't be any of this speculation going on. The answer would be right there for the both of us and the rest of the media, HF, and the universe. It would be absolutely MASSIVE NEWS to a lot of us.

Again, "don't like the reality" - You must understand how ridiculous it is to claim anything to be reality when all there is, is speculation and unproven theory. Can't just say something is "reality" when it's unproven. It's a question of understanding logic, definition of words, and about source criticism.

This is a pointless discussion - you failed the logic test. Good luck I guess.
More denial of evidence, more denial of smoke, cool, you have fun living in denial.
 

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