Based on your impeccable reasoning in this post, I genuinely dont understand either.
I’m assuming that you’re in favor of one of them, so I’d love to hear why.
I’ll start with Tocchet. Arizona’s shitshow management has been well characterized, but they’ve definitely had some really good talent to work with throughout his tenure. The biggest red flag is how he’s failed to properly utilize the elite young talent he’s had in place with Keller, Hayton, and Strome. That’s a massive red flag to me, especially considering where we are as an organization, and the established talent he’s had has seemingly regressed under him (Goligoski, Kessel, OEL, etc.). Other than that, those ARI teams are just painfully, and I mean painfully, boring to watch and are one of the lower-event teams in the leagues. That doesn’t fit well with the roster we have and what everyone in the organization keeps preaching. He gets labeled as this Xs and Os guy, but it doesn’t translate on the ice and he just gets mediocre results.
Now as an assistant, he definitely profiles better and has a strong track record of working with Sullivan. I wouldn’t mind him there, I don’t see him taking a demotion with other HC spots open.
Hartley hasn’t done shit in the NHL in over two decades with an absolutely loaded Avs roster. When he coached again with Calgary, that team was hilariously bad and was basically the six-goalie system on steroids. Again, they had good young talent in the org that didn’t do much until he left. Plus, it’s been reported here and by others that the dude is just a total prick to be around. I don’t see any value in bringing in a dinosaur with this group of players.
Sure, he won a KHL championship, but who cares? That’s not going to translate to the NHL considering how vast the talent discrepancy is in the KHL between teams.
what are the minuses (and pluses?) re Hartley?
Pluses are he’s a Cup-winning coach, but that was like 20 years ago at this point, so put whatever stock in that you’d like.
I listed minuses above, but the biggest thing is really having terrible results in his last coaching stint. I don’t want a coach that can’t adapt to the modern NHL.