Proposal: Replace one current Leaf with a Leaf from the past

[ITM]

93 Gilmour for Matthews

Knies Gilmour Marner would be sick.

As an exercise - pretty fun:

Nieuwendyk - Gilmour - Mogilny

Two of the three had underrated grit. The News was a big-time performer and also a former Cup winning Flame. Prime Mogilny being fed by Gilmour and opportunistic Nieuwendyk is all kinds of chaos for any match-up.

Knies - Sundin - Nylander

I think the same thing. And having arguably Sweden's greatest center would soak Nylander's spine in dragon fire. He'd be a wagon and Knies and Nylander have worked wonderfully together.

Andreychuk - Matthews - Clark

Pretty self-explanatory. Shield our talented gentle ingenue with size grit and skill.

Zezel - Perrault - Thomas

Thomas could game break. Zezel and Perrault could be interchanged for necessary possession wins and be counted on to win a F/O. Seems like a healthy-minded, industrious, dangerous 4th line.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Orr - McClement - McClaren
McCarthur - Grabovski - Kulemin

Good memories

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Alexander Mogilny in his prime was a bit of a m'fer with jam and he scored 76 goals in the regular season (55 with VAN.) and that same year was a goal per game contributor in the playoffs.

Precisely why would it be a terrible trade?

A little unusual calling a Lady Byng winner a mf'er with jam.

Mogilny was basicaly a more talented Nylander.

 

[ITM]

A little unusual calling a Lady Byng winner a mf'er with jam.

Mogilny was basicaly a more talented Nylander.

A) What I wrote was, "Alexander Mogilny in his prime was a bit of a m'fer with jam and he scored 76 goals in the regular season (55 with VAN.) and that same year was a goal per game contributor in the playoffs."

B) He won the Lady Byng in the 2002-2003 season, a full TEN YEARS from the quote's referenced time period (i.e. 1992-1993).

So what you do next with those pieces of specific information will determine what's normative or unusual about your characterization of my quoted reply.

 

[ACC1224]

Playoff scoring - Mogilny's playoff production dropped significantly and he definitely wasn't much of a jam guy.

I loved him btw.

I suppose I'm just looking at his time in a Leaf jersey which is what I thought we were doing. If we're doing players in their prime there should be a lot more Lindros, Leetch and Francis mentions.

Didn't Mogilny's give away in OT cost the the ECF in 2002? Imagine if he had done that today.
(I may not be remembering that correctly)

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

A) What I wrote was, "Alexander Mogilny in his prime was a bit of a m'fer with jam and he scored 76 goals in the regular season (55 with VAN.) and that same year was a goal per game contributor in the playoffs."

B) He won the Lady Byng in the 2002-2003 season, a full TEN YEARS from the quote's referenced time period (i.e. 1992-1993).

So what you do next with those pieces of specific information will determine what's normative or unusual about your characterization of my quoted reply.

Oh I see... he mellowed in his old age... lol.

He had one year with 73 penalty minutes so I guess you could be on to something... he didn't do much after that.

 

[Kazparov]

Jarnkrok for Gary Roberts.

 

[HarryLime]

I'm not against swapping AM for Gilmour or Sundin, but why would we do that when we have JT we could swap with?

JT for Sundin.

Having Sundin as the top center and AM as the #2 center would be deadly. That would also take a lot of pressure off AM and he just might be able to perform in the playoffs

I wanted it to be fair swapping players at similar levels. I view Sundin in a diff tier than JT.

I guess you could do it anyway

 

[ITM]

Oh I see... he mellowed in his old age... lol.

He had one year with 73 penalty minutes so I guess you could be on to something... he didn't do much after that.

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Well I am on to something when the exercise is fantasy roster lineup substitution across eras that provides for time travel and specifically the allowance to pinpoint said player during their prime...which is what I quoted and nothing else.

And secondly, he had 40 the year after, 58 one year and 43 in another. But PER MY POST, IN HIS PRIME, while scoring 76 goals, posting 70 PIMs is "a bit of jam".

Case in point, no one who has bothered to pay attention to Datsyuk's career would ever call him soft or disengaged and yet he never went above 35 minutes in PIM.

If we take your preferred framing to its logical extension, why not see what Alex is up to these days and cull his stats from whatever beer league in Florida or Russia he plays in?

Whether its the thread, my post, or Mogilny's career, you seem to have wandered into a thread and exchange without realizing it's purpose.

 

[banks]

Marner for Nik Kulemin.

Kulemin was the Leafs best winger for a minute, so that makes them the same tier. Kulemin played with heart and would give us like 10 million in cap space to use wisely.

That's a bit facetious, of course.

My real answer would be Marner for Kessel. Phil showed he can provide a Conn Smythe worthy performance. He was robbed that one year in PIT. Put prime Kessel on this team this year alone and we take Florida in round 2 and they're playing for a Cup in a week or 2.

 

[Jmo89]

I don't remember Gilmour much because I was too young but I'll go Marner for Mogilny.

 

[Anthrax442]

Except for Regher (sp?) in Calgary, Gunnarsson was probably the best partner he had.

People remember Gunnarson in the Blues. When he was in Toronto he wasnt very good

 

[Tak7]

Salming for Mo

 

[ULF_55]

I'll pick within my lifetime viewing:

Keon or Sittler

My favorite players Keon, Horton, Salming, Sittler ...

Team needs leadership and someone who physically won't take poop.

Gotta go with Sittler for Tavares, because someone has to stand up physically for this team, which lacks that courage. Due to Matthews style, can't go with Keon.

Errol McMann - Sittler - Nylander
Knies - Matthews - marner/replcament

Gilmour was exceptional for a couple of years.

 

[ULF_55]

I don't remember Gilmour much because I was too young but I'll go Marner for Mogilny.

Full disclosure

Do we see a good "defenseman" in that group?

 

[ITM]

Didn't Mogilny's give away in OT cost the the ECF in 2002? Imagine if he had done that today.
(I may not be remembering that correctly)

Imagine if Mogilny cost us the ECF?

I think I can do that with pleasure because at least we would be in the ECF.

Far less painful than imagination is remembering 9 fruitless years on the shoulders of an in his prime Marner whose never seen the ECF, despite assurances of god-like status.

 

[Craig Button]

Clark for Tavares even though Clark was a worse player talent wise is a good 2nd as well even with positions mismatch.

The level of heart, compete and physical effort upgrade would be quite a bit

Clark for McMann

Not for Tavares that’s just ….

 

[Craig Button]

Didn't Mogilny's give away in OT cost the the ECF in 2002? Imagine if he had done that today.
(I may not be remembering that correctly)

No

He passed it to the D and did it the responsible way by doing the pass behind the net and not infront.

I forgot who the D player was though

 

[Craig Button]

A little unusual calling a Lady Byng winner a mf'er with jam.

Mogilny was basicaly a more talented Nylander.

Mogilny is Marner
and Nylander combined and with more IQ

 

[AvroArrow]

Wendel Clark for Marner

 

[AvroArrow]

People remember Gunnarson in the Blues. When he was in Toronto he wasnt very good

When it was 4-2 vs Boston in the dying minute, it was HIM who turned the puck over twice along the boards when he could've cleared it.

Him and Phaneuf were both on the ice but it was Gunarrson along the right boards throwing flimsy ass pucks in a weak attempt to clear. Hated that man so much after that game.

 

[Anthrax442]

When it was 4-2 vs Boston in the dying minute, it was HIM who turned the puck over twice along the boards when he could've cleared it.

Him and Phaneuf were both on the ice but it was Gunarrson along the right boards throwing flimsy ass pucks in a weak attempt to clear. Hated that man so much after that game.

Exactly. Phanuef got too much hate but he was a man on an island

 

[Anthrax442]

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Rielly -> Phaneuf
Marner -> Kessel
Nylander -> JVR
JT -> Kadri
Knies -> Hyman

All that's left is to sit back and enjoy the cup

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

If we can have long hair bozak then:
Matthews -> Bozak