Rempe elbowing major on Heiskanen - Suspended 8 games

[MakoSlade]

He has the tools.

He was a decent enough WHL player. He's actually a center and still plays center when he's on Hartford. For most of his life he was a legitimate hockey prospect. His underlying numbers, albeit in a small sample, grade him out as an NHL 4th liner.

Somebody noticed his height and got in his ear that he needs to be a sociopath to make it.

There's a grain of truth there. His value as an NHL player is going to be in physical play and annoyance.

But he has to control himself. He might stick around as a troll who can take a shift. He's not gonna stick around doing this. It hurts his own team. The league has made it clear they're not going to tolerate it. People can disagree with the suspensions all they want, but you can't say you don't understand why they're doing it.

I hope he gets it through his head because I think he's probably an NHL player. I don't really have high hopes. It was too much notoriety too fast and now the kid thinks he's Rambo. His cult amongst Rangers fans doesn't help matters.

In that sense, it might be best to lay low in Hartford for a year.

What makes you think someone got in his ear?

 

[Machinehead]

What makes you think someone got in his ear?

His game changed significantly along the line. He always had a bit of an edge but 158 penalty minutes in 111 CHL games is nothing to sound alarm bells. He already has 95 penalty minutes in 22 NHL games. It's pretty clear to me, once he got to pro hockey, that he had a mandate to act up.

I'm not saying the guy is Connor Bedard, but he was a top six player in the WHL, which is a very high level of hockey in the grand scheme of things. He's a legitimate pro hockey prospect and all of the reports out of the draft was that he was big kid who could move and take some faceoffs. There was nothing about being a goon or a sideshow. That was a sudden and extreme development, which shows up in the stats, right around after he got drafted.

And don't me wrong, I'm not saying he's an angel who was victimized by the system. He comes off as a fratboy dickhead all too willing to play the role, but you know, it's hockey, so that's most of them.

Somebody else needs to get in his ear and tell him he's 22 years old and it's time to be an adult because he has millions of dollars on the line.

 

[Barrie22]

His game changed significantly along the line. He always had a bit of an edge but 158 penalty minutes in 111 CHL games is nothing to sound alarm bells. He already has 95 penalty minutes in 22 NHL games. It's pretty clear to me, once he got to pro hockey, that he had a mandate to act up.

I'm not saying the guy is Connor Bedard, but he was a top six player in the WHL, which is a very high level of hockey in the grand scheme of things. He's a legitimate pro hockey prospect and all of the reports out of the draft was that he was big kid who could move and take some faceoffs. There was nothing about being a goon or a sideshow. That was a sudden and extreme development, which shows up in the stats, right around after he got drafted.

And don't me wrong, I'm not saying he's an angel who was victimized by the system. He comes off as a fratboy dickhead all too willing to play the role, but you know, it's hockey, so that's most of them.

Somebody else needs to get in his ear and tell him he's 22 years old and it's time to be an adult because he has millions of dollars on the line.

31 points in 47 games gets players in the whl first line minutes? His career year in the whl had him finish 147th in league scoring and 7th in thunderbirds scoring. His next 2 years his total over 66 games didn't even match that first season.

He has and will never have any sort of hockey talent, he was nothing in the whl, ahl, and even worse now in the nhl.

 

[1989]

His game changed significantly along the line. He always had a bit of an edge but 158 penalty minutes in 111 CHL games is nothing to sound alarm bells. He already has 95 penalty minutes in 22 NHL games. It's pretty clear to me, once he got to pro hockey, that he had a mandate to act up.

There was nothing about being a goon or a sideshow. That was a sudden and extreme development, which shows up in the stats, right around after he got drafted.

And don't me wrong, I'm not saying he's an angel who was victimized by the system. He comes off as a fratboy dickhead all too willing to play the role, but you know, it's hockey, so that's most of them.

I won't pretend to know his career path thus far outside of his NHL showings but for a player like him, I think it's prudent to wonder how he might have interpreted advice like "we want you to use your body a little more / you're a big guy and we want to see you use that to your advantage." I say this because in today's NHL I just don't see any agent/coach/GM saying "hit hard and the career wil follow" because it's not enough and it's not as effective now.

Like, I'm not much of a boxscore guy so I'm not even going to look at his stats for hits in the minors for example, but I think it's worth noting that there's a few interpretations of how to use a large body; hitting everything that moves is one of them, long-range poke checks and protecting the puck might be another.
I know he might not possess a high-skill game overall to compete in less physically dangerous ways but so far I don't think he's chosen the best path to NHL success.

Can't help but think Rempe was just born in the wrong NHL era. If he started his career even as early as 1995 he carves out a bottom-6 role for 10 years.

 

[Machinehead]

31 points in 47 games gets players in the whl first line minutes? His career year in the whl had him finish 147th in league scoring and 7th in thunderbirds scoring. His next 2 years his total over 66 games didn't even match that first season.

He has and will never have any sort of hockey talent, he was nothing in the whl, ahl, and even worse now in the nhl.

That's just not true.

Pronman had him going 118th overall.

 

[Machinehead]

I won't pretend to know his career path thus far outside of his NHL showings but for a player like him, I think it's prudent to wonder how he might have interpreted advice like "we want you to use your body a little more / you're a big guy and we want to see you use that to your advantage." I say this because in today's NHL I just don't see any agent/coach/GM saying "hit hard and the career wil follow" because it's not enough and it's not as effective now.

Like, I'm not much of a boxscore guy so I'm not even going to look at his stats for hits in the minors for example, but I think it's worth noting that there's a few interpretations of how to use a large body; hitting everything that moves is one of them, longe-range poke-checks and protecting the puck might be another.
I know he might not possess a high-skill game overall to compete in less physically dangerous ways but so far I don't think he's chosen the best path to NHL success.

Can't help but think Rempe was just born in the wrong NHL era. If he started his career even as early as 1995 he carves out a bottom-6 role for 10 years.

I definitely think there's possibility that he was told to use his body more and he interpreted that "bite the heads off of small animals." Like I said, I'm not saying any of this to absolve him.

I just think while there no legit goons anymore, there is still a culture of taking a kid that big and trying to mold him into an animal.

And I put blame on the Rangers too. They haven't curbed it.

 

[Neil Racki]

Can't help but think Rempe was just born in the wrong NHL era. If he started his career even as early as 1995 he carves out a bottom-6 role for 10 years.

 

[Barrie22]

That's just not true.

Pronman had him going 118th overall.

Reading his scouting report is pretty sad and can see the reason why he was ranked that high by pronman.

Offensively he is nothing to write home about, but but with his size just think of the possibilities of what he can do.

Defensively he isn't elite and won't ever win selkes but look at his size just imagine the possibilities of what he can do.

Oh did we mention his size again? Droooool

 

[1989]

Reading his scouting report is pretty sad and can see the reason why he was ranked that high by pronman.

Offensively he is nothing to write home about, but but with his size just think of the possibilities of what he can do.

Defensively he isn't elite and won't ever win selkes but look at his size just imagine the possibilities of what he can do.

Oh did we mention his size again? Droooool

Pierre McGuire would have written a draft article on Rempe but he couldn't submit it by deadline on account of typing too slowly with only one hand available.

 

[King'sPawn]

His game changed significantly along the line. He always had a bit of an edge but 158 penalty minutes in 111 CHL games is nothing to sound alarm bells. He already has 95 penalty minutes in 22 NHL games. It's pretty clear to me, once he got to pro hockey, that he had a mandate to act up.

I'm not saying the guy is Connor Bedard, but he was a top six player in the WHL, which is a very high level of hockey in the grand scheme of things. He's a legitimate pro hockey prospect and all of the reports out of the draft was that he was big kid who could move and take some faceoffs. There was nothing about being a goon or a sideshow. That was a sudden and extreme development, which shows up in the stats, right around after he got drafted.

And don't me wrong, I'm not saying he's an angel who was victimized by the system. He comes off as a fratboy dickhead all too willing to play the role, but you know, it's hockey, so that's most of them.

Somebody else needs to get in his ear and tell him he's 22 years old and it's time to be an adult because he has millions of dollars on the line.

In his final WHL season:
He had a 5 minute charging major on 19 October
He had a 5 minute boarding major on 21 November
He had a 10 minute misconduct that occurred at the same time an unidentified player had a 5 minute checking to head major (Western Hockey League)
He had a 5 minute major for kneeing on 19 February
He had a 5 minute boarding major on 12 March

That's 5 non-fighting majors in one season due to dangerous hits.

The history of dangerous hits was before he became pro. Did getting drafted change things, as you allude to? Maybe. But just because the PIMs were not unusually high doesn't mean he was playing clean hockey until he turned pro.

 

[Machinehead]

In his final WHL season:
He had a 5 minute charging major on 19 October
He had a 5 minute boarding major on 21 November
He had a 10 minute misconduct that occurred at the same time an unidentified player had a 5 minute checking to head major (Western Hockey League)
He had a 5 minute major for kneeing on 19 February
He had a 5 minute boarding major on 12 March

That's 5 non-fighting majors in one season due to dangerous hits.

The history of dangerous hits was before he became pro. Did getting drafted change things, as you allude to? Maybe. But just because the PIMs were not unusually high doesn't mean he was playing clean hockey until he turned pro.

Yeah, no, that's fair.

Either way, the adults in the room need to step in at this point. He's dangerous.