Relief for Doughty

[HookKing]

Zero? Really?

Might want to check the numbers. I agree with your other points, and it's not because I don't like the guys, but someone's gotta go. Our D is getting expensive considering how many of them can fill the second-pairing role, and though I agree a forward would be first to go (cough, Stoll), the money just doesn't work out after this season.

Again, I'm not suggesting I WANT to move any of these guys in particular, but it's literally just a math thing. Go fool around with capgeek for our team going into next year. It's a fun logic puzzle and a good way to drive yourself crazy for an hour or two

How about absolute zero then. Not happening.

 

[Quattro]

Panic trading a good forward for a d-man would be a disaster of a move. What happens to this new guy when Voynov and A-Mart come back?

No way Lombardi makes any move until the Voynov situation is resolved.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

How about absolute zero then. Not happening.

So what you're saying is next year's defense will be Doughty-Muzzin/Regehr-Voynov/Martinez-McNabb/Greene. I disagree. But ok.

Our current defense costs 19.4 million. Next year, Muzzin's 4 million a year kicks in. Regehr was making 3--what does he get next year? What does Martinez get? Let's say, conservatively, Regehr gets 2 and Martinez gets 2.5. You're looking at a defense that costs 22.8 million. Realistically, it could be more like 24-25 million.

Our current forwards cost 42.7 million. Our forwards for next year that are signed--Kopitar, Richards, Brown, Carter, Gaborik, King, and Lewis--cost 32 million. That's before signing Toffoli, Pearson, Williams, Stoll, Clifford, Andreoff, Nolan or whatever AHLers take their place. We have 10 million remaining to sign 5-7 forwards and RFA Martin Jones if you go by this year's cap, probably a bit more for next year's. I forget what the latest reports say but if you assume 4-5 million increase we're fine--just keep in mind Kopi the following year and so on.

When the question becomes "what do you do," like I said, I tend to agree it's the forwards corps that gets reshaped--but to talk about the defense like it's set in stone and untouchable is just wrong. Mitchell moved on to continue getting an important role--I imagine Martinez will want some sort of compromise (money/time) as well, and if he gets it, that means someone else gets the short end. Who knows what Regehr is thinking. Everyone else, we own for now, so oh well

 

[taz346]

I Agree with ones who feel that once Voynov and Martinez return, things will straighten themselves out. Just no reason to even consider any trades at the present.

 

[scryan]

**** it trade Doughty.

 

[KINGS17]

When Martinez gets back Doughty's minutes will go down.

Muzzin - Doughty

Regehr - Martinez

McNabb - Greene

Get Voynov back at some point, and we likely lose McBain.

Muzzin - Doughty

Voynov - Regehr

Martinez - Greene

are the likely pairings. I think Regehr drags his partner down, but I don't see Sutter sitting him in favor of McNabb.

 

[Herby]

No rash decisions will be made until the Voynov issue is resolved. He could be playing this week for all we know. Let's just let it play out.

Agreed 100%.

And I think Drew is more than capable of playing the minutes, plenty of other superstar defenders played half the game for a good chunk of their career.

 

[damacles1156]

Like I said Suter/Weber play heavy minutes all year long. They are fine game in, and game out.