Proposal: Reimer and Middleton to TOR

[Hodge]

To TOR
James Reimer
Jacob Middleton

To SJS
2023 1st round pick (top 10 protected)
2022 2nd round pick
Petr Mrazek

Pierre LeBrun just reported that the Leafs are interested in Jacob Middleton and James Reimer. Mrazek's cap hit is greater than Reimer+Middleton combined so this actually saves the Leafs money allowing them to make another move.

I figure dumping 2.25 years of Mrazek at 3.8M is worth a high 2nd while Middleton and Reimer are each worth a late 2nd. High 2nd+late 2nd can usually get you into the late 1st round so the price seems about right.

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[kanucks25]

The way Mrazek is going, it'll take more than a 2nd to dump him.

 

[Petes2424]

To TOR
James Reimer
Jacob Middleton

To SJS
2023 1st round pick (top 10 protected)
2022 2nd round pick
Petr Mrazek

Pierre LeBrun just reported that the Leafs are interested in Jacob Middleton and James Reimer. Mrazek's cap hit is greater than Reimer+Middleton combined so this actually saves the Leafs money allowing them to make another move.

I figure dumping 2.25 years of Mrazek at 3.8M is worth a high 2nd while Middleton and Reimer are each worth a late 2nd. High 2nd+late 2nd can usually get you into the late 1st round so the price seems about right.

It was only a matter of time before we heard the name Reimer thrown into a rumor.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Hell no. Been there done that with Reimer. Do not want.

 

[LeafsNation149]

Would love Reimer back in Toronto, but no chance him or his wife want anything to do with Leafs fans and media.

 

[seanlinden]

I highly, highly doubt that the Leafs go 1-2 picks for Reimer and Middleton.

I also don't see why they would trade their 1st round pick next year, when they still have their 1st rounder this year. Generally speaking, picks get pushed to the following year if a team doesn't have it, or if you're trading multiple picks so that you don't clear out a single draft class.

That being said, I think a more logical trade would be something along the lines of:

To Toronto:
James Reimer
Jacob Middleton
edit: SJ 4th round Pick 2022

To San Jose
2022 1st Rounder
Petr Mrazek
Travis Dermott

 

[Hodge]

I highly, highly doubt that the Leafs go 1-2 picks for Reimer and Middleton.

I also don't see why they would trade their 1st round pick next year, when they still have their 1st rounder this year. Generally speaking, picks get pushed to the following year if a team doesn't have it, or if you're trading multiple picks so that you don't clear out a single draft class.

That being said, I think a more logical trade would be something along the lines of:

To Toronto:
James Reimer
Jacob Middleton

To San Jose
2022 1st Rounder
Petr Mrazek
Travis Dermott

That works for me. I would rather have the 23 1st rounder because the draft class looks better but since it's gonna be a late 1st anyway I guess it doesn't really make a difference.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

After this trade the leafs would have the nicest tandem in the NHL.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

James Reimer is not the guy

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

I'd pay the ask for Middleton and leave it at that.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Is Reimer a good playoff goalie...I forget

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Please bring Reimer back.

 

[BlueBaron]

Lol. Pass.

The player of value is one we don't need while identifying nicely one of the few decent goal options we'd never consider.

Pretty big fail.

 

[themelkman]

Mrazek will take a first on his own to dump, so this just isnt enough coming back to us.

 

[AcerComputer]

We'll trade SJ back their 4th rounder for Reimer...weird how we barely got anything for him in a trade when he had a .918% on a bad Leafs team, and teams all want 1st or 2nd rounder for goalies with .900% (Fluery, Allen, etc)

 

[SherVaughn30]

Hell no. Been there done that with Reimer. Do not want.

That and what would make Reimer want to come back to TO?! Toronto/Philly are goalie nightmares!

 

[Vitto79]

Reimer isn’t winning the leafs a cup so why bother

 

[Stewie Griffin]

If the leafs trade for a goalie they need to trade for a legit #1, just like Edmonton. That's easier said than done though. At the same time, having Reimer and Campbell would atleast give them the option of two guys who are capable of starting, and Reimer would still be signed next season at a reasonable cap hit that would still allow them to go after a #1 in the offseason.

As both a sharks fan, and someone who lives in ontario and watches the leafs, I think Middleton is a nice, cheap fit for them.

 

[Magic Man]

Does Middleton have any experience on the right side?

Middleton would be fine until Muzzin got back, but if he can't make the switch then he is a likely scratch.

 

[kevsh]

If Dubas has any problem convincing a team to take on Mrazek's contract he should just point out how well past Leafs goalies have done once they left the team. No, Dubas should not have to give away picks/prospects to dump Mrazek, he should be asking for them.

 

[themelkman]

We'll trade SJ back their 4th rounder for Reimer...weird how we barely got anything for him in a trade when he had a .918% on a bad Leafs team, and teams all want 1st or 2nd rounder for goalies with .900% (Fluery, Allen, etc)

You got 2 2nds for Roman Polak, so not much to complain about.

 

[AcerComputer]

You got 2 2nds for Roman Polak, so not much to complain about.

Literally has nothing to do with the historically low prices for Goalies at the TDL. Whereas teams have historically always overpaid for Dmen in comparison.

 

[AcerComputer]

If the leafs trade for a goalie they need to trade for a legit #1, just like Edmonton. That's easier said than done though. At the same time, having Reimer and Campbell would atleast give them the option of two guys who are capable of starting, and Reimer would still be signed next season at a reasonable cap hit that would still allow them to go after a #1 in the offseason.

As both a sharks fan, and someone who lives in ontario and watches the leafs, I think Middleton is a nice, cheap fit for them.

How cheap?

 

[Stewie Griffin]

How cheap?

Lol I was referring to his salary in that comment.

Rumoured ask is 2nd+ something else

 

[ChaoticOrange]

The way Mrazek is going, it'll take more than a 2nd to dump him.

Accurate. 3.8 mil for 2 more years of .884 goaltending? I'd want something nice to take him if I'm a GM. People have been telling us they'd want a first to take on Kassian, who's cheaper and easier to hide.