DisgruntledHawkFan
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What talent do you question? He's got plus wheels hands and vision.
Confirmed with Link: Reichel extended for 2 years at $1.2m per cap hit
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Hattrick Kane
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Kyle isn’t overpaying anyone on his deals so far. It’s all you can ask.
Joey Anderson next.
Joey Anderson next.
DisgruntledHawkFan
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Good bridge deal for a kid with a lot to prove. Writing off Reichel is nuts.
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Decision making, effectiveness as a playmaker. Agree to disagree but I don't see it. He seems like a nervous player with not a lot of confidence. Maybe that's more between the ears than talent but that's just semantics
DisgruntledHawkFan
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Toews2Bickell
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old regime would've locked him up for 3x3 for no reason
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Tomato - Tomahto
I doubt his effectiveness as a player and wouldn’t mind packaging him with #20 to move up.
DisgruntledHawkFan
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I can see that but it's a difference worth noting. It's really tough to be an effective player if you aren't talented.
BobbyJet
The accountability era?
It's a common theme on this board.
WarriorofTime
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People want a country club atmosphere where because you were a sort of high draft pick, you get no accountability. I don't want that, that's not the right mentality.
the reichel at center experiment went on too long. very easy and understandable to blame lurich for that. reichel has to take responsibility for the rest of his season. he's been a roughly ppg ahl player for three years now. that has to start translating to the big league, unless he wants to be the new brandon pirri.
TheFridge
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He played with Bedard for 105 minutes total and 83 of those minutes were with Bedard and Kurashev -- a line that was never going to work bc none of those players are great at winning back pucks.
The majority of the first half of the year he was playing with Guttman, Entwistle, Raddysh and Johnson. Lot of opportunity to squander there.
BobbyJet
The accountability era?
I gather your post is insinuating that Reichel was brought down by his linemates. That's a cop out.
He had some moments but they were few and far between, no matter who he was playing with. His play did show improvement after his return from Rockford so I have some hope.
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TheFridge
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I’m not insinuating anything. Most of the first half of the year he had nothing to work with. The only “opportunity” he had was with Bedard on a fundamentally flawed line and [insert shocked pikachu face here] it didn’t work.
Reichel didn’t do himself any favours. He didn’t play well after getting off to a slow start. But it’s completely revisionist to say he squandered opportunities. There were no opportunities to be had on this roster, as it was constructed and after the injuries to Hall and Athanasiou and the termination of Perry’s contract.
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Whatever the cause, he had a disaster of a year and people keep trying to polish the turd for some reason. He wasn't that good at the end of the year, half the lines across the league were playing like crap after the deadline. He obviously has NHL level tools, so maybe he converts them, but it's a big maybe still. If he's a bottom 6, who cares at this point in the rebuild?
Don't get two, should have just eaten the third imo. Too risky setting the precedent with an overpay for 1 and I doubt he would have agreed to it.
Playing this "maybe" game with him doesn't seem like a good idea with so many depth players fighting for minutes right now.
There are enough cost controlled years coming up for the next 5-6 years he would have been easy to manage a hike in AAV in a few, and if he does bounce back to being a good prospect, that extra year locked up makes him much more appealing in a trade for a real long term answer.
It's fine, but since he won't be a a great contract comp to most of the drafted forwards on the way up, I think it would have been much better to have locked down the third year.
Don't get two, should have just eaten the third imo. Too risky setting the precedent with an overpay for 1 and I doubt he would have agreed to it.
Playing this "maybe" game with him doesn't seem like a good idea with so many depth players fighting for minutes right now.
There are enough cost controlled years coming up for the next 5-6 years he would have been easy to manage a hike in AAV in a few, and if he does bounce back to being a good prospect, that extra year locked up makes him much more appealing in a trade for a real long term answer.
It's fine, but since he won't be a a great contract comp to most of the drafted forwards on the way up, I think it would have been much better to have locked down the third year.
BobbyJet
The accountability era?
Your definition of "opportunity" is different from mine. The fact that he was playing a regular role in the NHL despite playing so poorly is opportunity enough, that few players would enjoy under those circumstances. Furthermore, gifting a player first line minutes in that situation is no way for a player to develop NHL skills.
Somebody posted that Reichel can't play center and struggles on the wall. So where does he play? A wide open big ice European league?
Styles
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If I were to do anything I’d probably start him at wing next year with Dickinson and Foligno. Let him play with those guys and get his game game in shape away from the puck and learn from them.
WarriorofTime
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It's gonna be tough for him. He's best as a skilled guy with other guys that can do the defensive stuff and the board play stuff. But the question is whether he'll be a good enough skill guy to be in a skill guy role. With Bedard, that's one skill guy he's always behind. So can he be a second skill guy, either at the same line or a different one? If other guys start to fill out that are better as skilled guys, then where does he have a place? Questions, questions.
A big reason why everyone shouldn't oogle over whomever had the most points in a junior league when you get to like 2nd round picks and beyond in a Draft. You run out of the pure skill spots and need guys that can fill in around the lineup pretty quickly. You can sacrifice a bit of a skill to get guys that are big, bring defense/PK to the table, good boardplay, forechecking, etc.
BobbyJet
The accountability era?
Yep... and it seems to me that NHL playoff hockey gets more physical with time. There is very little room for small, soft, skill guys who are very good but not elite. Europe may be the best for Reichel. I reckon the upcoming season will be his final test to remain an NHLer.
TheFridge
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Half the forwards on the team weren't NHL players. Seems everyone on the roster had amazing opportunities by your definition. Nothing like playing against NHL competition without NHL linemates. Seems like a really good way to showcase one's self.
BobbyJet
The accountability era?
Any NHL scouts who have followed the Blackhawks this season will have a very good idea which players they may want on their team.... and Reichel would not be on any of their lists. Players like Vlasic, Dickenson, Foligno and perhaps Kurashev would likely be the guys that scouts like.
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