Refs not calling the game

[fireantz]

If I were McDavid I would tell the league my next contract is in Europe if things don’t change. Matthews should do the same. Let the Tkachuks run the league like roller derby and see how that goes

 

[fireantz]

For you youngsters who think this is new, 1967 expansion watered down the talent pool and in the early 70’s they began to ignore the rule book resulting in the game being turned into WWF by the Philadelphia Flyers

 

[grego]

I still watch the oilers because they have always been my team. But if the oil are out in the playoffs I don't watch hockey because, especially playoff hockey is complete garbage. The obstruction of talent becomes insane. The holding of mcdavid is every shift in the playoffs and it keeps people from playing.

In the finals an Edmonton VS Toronto final would have more interest than playing a team like Florida. The NHL acts as the only way people pick a team is exclusively based on local geography. Not that if you make a better game more people will watch it

 

[Mr Positive]

I still watch the oilers because they have always been my team. But if the oil are out in the playoffs I don't watch hockey because, especially playoff hockey is complete garbage. The obstruction of talent becomes insane. The holding of mcdavid is every shift in the playoffs and it keeps people from playing.

In the finals an Edmonton VS Toronto final would have more interest than playing a team like Florida. The NHL acts as the only way people pick a team is exclusively based on local geography. Not that if you make a better game more people will watch it

The league just worships parity and so a superstar even existing goes against that. They want all teams to have elite players and for elite players to be roughly equal. It wrecks the formula to have a transcendental talent

 

[OilerFanInLangley]

Question: if the Canucks can just wrestle McDavid to the ice for the last 15 seconds of the game with no penalty, can the Oilers just drag the Canucks' goalie out of the crease and pin him against the boards, again with no violation?

Can anyone explain what the actual difference would be?

 

[thadd]

We would have a cup already if they called the games like they did post lockout 2005

I'm sure I'm the only person on earth with the following opinion:

AI (not now, but soon) is the only hope we can have to get consistent officiating.

 

[enthropi]

It’s time to Make Hockey Great Again. We all know this cup isn’t won on the ice anymore.

- annual 2-mil subscription fee for the Stanley Cup paid by the NHL to a Canadian sovereign fund
- 1-mil tariff per day to the host team and country when the Stanley Cup is outside Canada.
- Deferred salary contracts declared as tax evasion illegal clause
- Any additional American players above the current number in the league as of Dec 2024 is considered an illegal immigration emergency and subject to deportation or refusal of entry, subject to arbitrary custom agent’s bias
- Any coaching or advanced statistics staff are subject to search and seizures at customs based on national security and possible possession of sensitive information
- Any referees or linesmen may be considered “foreign agent” and may have their bank accounts seized based on performance and perceived neutrality (or lackthereof)
- any Monday of a Canadian team game exclusively broadcast on Amazon Prime is considered a national unholiday, considered paid non-work day for every Canadian of working age, charged to the US government or compensated by a free share of Amazon
- Over a decade without a Canadian team winning a Cup is considered Casus Belli

 

[AM]

This whole issue is garbage. All the convo is about suspension and protecting stars of the game. The problem is on ice officials managing the game. No one from the league is answering regarding the fact that Garland was not penalized nor was either ref intending to do so. “Referees discretion “ are the worst two words in hockey. If the rules are applied equally as written, regardless of player or situation, the game will adapt just like hooking over the past decades. Until the Stanley Cup is decided in double overtime on a power play this league will remain behind water polo in popularity.

I agree. All players need to be protected, not just stars. You do that by having rules that are enforced and stop actions that put players at risk.

For instance you shouldn’t benefit from breaking the rules in the last 20s of a game because the game ended.

And you can highlight the star chancing injury, but coaches telling expendable players to go out and take the hit for the team is dangerous also.

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

Someone needs to start clipping non calls and make a database. I might actually start doing that someday, need a new PC though. Not really that much work to take a couple clips per game, then make a database and attach ref names to each clip.

 

[K1984]

Someone needs to start clipping non calls and make a database. I might actually start doing that someday, need a new PC though. Not really that much work to take a couple clips per game, then make a database and attach ref names to each clip.

Needs to be non-calls combined with calls for the same thing later in the game. Outside of that, one of the biggest cancers on how the games are called is that only a few, mostly irrelevant penalties get the black and white treatment.

Puck over glass, high sticks, too many men, ripping players helmet off, not skating to the bench when your helmet is off, goalie playing the puck outside the trapezoid, etc. Those always, every single time get called no matter what. Game 7 of the SCF? Every single one of those is getting called because they're penalties so have to call it. Tripping, hooking, slashing, interference, etc? Well those might be penalties, but it depends.

The former crop of penalties, that actually get called every single time, are almost always irrelevant to the game and no more than a technical rules violation. The others actually impact the game, but nobody cares it seems.

Take last night for example. We're on the PP and get blatantly tripped in front of the ref. Can't call it though, because 5 on 3. Fast forward a few minutes and Emberson rubs a guy's helmet off. Irrelevant, but have to call that one! Then that more or less lead to their third goal. We should have been 5 on 3, but ignore that so that they can change the game on a helmet rub penalty. Insanity.

 

[North]

Needs to be non-calls combined with calls for the same thing later in the game. Outside of that, one of the biggest cancers on how the games are called is that only a few, mostly irrelevant penalties get the black and white treatment.

Puck over glass, high sticks, too many men, ripping players helmet off, not skating to the bench when your helmet is off, goalie playing the puck outside the trapezoid, etc. Those always, every single time get called no matter what. Game 7 of the SCF? Every single one of those is getting called because they're penalties so have to call it. Tripping, hooking, slashing, interference, etc? Well those might be penalties, but it depends.

The former crop of penalties, that actually get called every single time, are almost always irrelevant to the game and no more than a technical rules violation. The others actually impact the game, but nobody cares it seems.

Take last night for example. We're on the PP and get blatantly tripped in front of the ref. Can't call it though, because 5 on 3. Fast forward a few minutes and Emberson rubs a guy's helmet off. Irrelevant, but have to call that one! Then that more or less lead to their third goal. We should have been 5 on 3, but ignore that so that they can change the game on a helmet rub penalty. Insanity.

High sticking calls can apparently be subjective too. Remember a couple of weeks ago when one drew blood against the Oilers but they refused to call it a 4 minute penalty?

 

[K1984]

High sticking calls can apparently be subjective too. Remember a couple of weeks ago when one drew blood against the Oilers but they refused to call it a 4 minute penalty?

Yes - was thinking of qualifying that one along those lines.

Tripping and high sticks are generally in the category of "black and white no matter what," but not universally. There have been a lot of games where they simply refuse to call anything, then enthusiastically throw their hand in the air at the first trip or high stick no matter how unintentional, irrelevant, or benign.

You hear a lot about "don't want to impact the game!" Call me crazy, but I think exclusively calling mostly irrelevant infractions in a black and white manner while not applying the same standard to more impactful penalties is the definition of impacting the game.