Post-Game Talk: Refs GIFT game to Wild 3-2

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SensibleGuy

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Nobody was "pushed" at the goalie! touched does not equal pushed and the player is supposed to make an effort NOT to interfere. The Wild player did exactly the opposite. He did everything he could to contact helly.

We've had goals called back over the years when there was way more contact than that...
 

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Who was Laine trying to cover? He was trying to get stick positioning on Foligno (his guy) but then he as the first forward back suddenly for some reason starts to back off while his man is driving towards the net, giving his man an uncontested shot at the net.

Poor effort by Laine I guess, but to be fair he had to be aware for his man while covering for Poolman who is covering for Morrisey. Morrisey started the defensive error.
 

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I don't know what was more frustrating, the refs or that we didn't register a shot between our 2nd goal and the Wild's 2nd goal.
Yeah, this is getting lost in the penalty noise. The complete lack of puck control and inability to close off the ice during that stretch was pathetic. They just stopped playing and it cost them.
 

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Morrissey being on the receiving end of a questionable hit did not lead to that goal. The puck was cleared from the Jets zone all the way to the Wild zone. Morrissey went to the benched and changed. The Wild lugged carried the puck through the neutral zone and then took the o-zone, both d-we back in the zone.

Pushing a player into your goalie is not goalie interference. Good goal. I would have wanted that to stand if the Jets had scored it.
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Good post --and in my opinion, when you have to start complaining about the refs -- your team is in big trouble. Penalties seem to even out over time. Sometimes you get bad calls against you, and sometimes you get calls go your way.

This team is starting to slip, and the Jet's should concentrate on their mechanics and execution. When we get Copp and Kulikov back, that will help --and "especially" the underrated Bryan Little.
 

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Who was Laine trying to cover? He was trying to get stick positioning on Foligno (his guy) but then he as the first forward back suddenly for some reason starts to back off while his man is driving towards the net, giving his man an uncontested shot at the net.

That wasn’t Laine’s guy originally until we overcommitted. Morrissey slid over to help cover the guy Connor was already with forcing Poolman to make the split second decision to slide over to Morrissey’s original man leaving Poolman’s original man open and up to Laine to cover. At that moment we have 4 guys back trying to cover three and we still mess things up. Yes Laine deserves some criticism for not giving 100% effort but in no way was he supposed to cover Foligno on that rush initially. There’s no reason we should be constantly over committing like that.
 

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Yeah, this is getting lost in the penalty noise. The complete lack of puck control and inability to close off the ice during that stretch was pathetic. They just stopped playing and it cost them.

Let’s not forget the obvious offside the linesman missed that led to extended zone time! In his defense he was way out of position to make the correct call. Just a tough break really.
 
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well i dont see game. sort of very tired at this team as of going with team and team stuff. also i have figured some team always seem playing at PP mode. Winnipeg one team that seem never playing PP. i see at statistic from game , typical laine of PP in game is like 1,5 minute per game. then looking at some other player like pettersson there in column i can see like 6,5 - 7,5 minute PP of game. yeah today Vancouver is team favourited at PP mode. other team Washington.washington being this since oveckin enter league. i dont know. higher command? just small amount of mention here. also laine not playing enough PP also i hear report he playing like in middle of box often. i laugh at this. also Wheelers not playmaker . this very perverted having him passing all at PP . they dont even shoot if not Wheelers having pass first. like if coach is hunting with Wheelers assist. i dont get this. laine should be built triangle to at PP and Wheeler with this method was pointed towards doghouse. no Wheelers love or trust at my PP constellation. also i dont like sheifeles and O'Connors playin in laine line . seems laine playing team game too much. he should go and trust himself very much more. today he seem like coward at ice. i blame this coach and his gaming with laine. he has put laine on bad path. laine is not same player and expectations are not gone right here. laine should play 25 min with free hands to do all mistakes it taking for to be the best he only can be. let him do all mistakes in World but let him do it. let him play free. and demand sheifele and o´connore to try pass laine more. today they dont pass him it seems. sheifele like not passing laine when he suppose to. he like wants to try controll the pointsituation in this team. he like ...it looks like he and Wheelers puttign their own production in first of team here. im sorry this what i see. my opinion. i saw overtime coming here at overtime. ok. then i in scoreboards see PP for Minnesota in beginning of OT. i imagined Wheelers and sheifele trying and with of course coach very well behing…..trying to score at overtime….and after their shift is at Calling to bench end and them not scoring ...would they dare letting Another Group of Winnipeg blue players try to get some scoringpoints to boards? no ...no they didnt ...i was not surprised to see either sheifele or Wheelers slash or hold on player for penalty at this Point. this is not first time. when empty netters Points. and overtime situation is. number one out is Wheelers and sheifele hunting. first goal and then penalty. to cement no other Winnipeg player getting theiers. im sorry. this team like mess

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This is a joke post? Laine plays almost the entire PP nowadays, and today led the team in PP TOI.

Wheeler scored a PP goal and was primary assist in the other PP goal.
 

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man I haven't listened to the PG show on 1290 for a long time but does anyone with a brain ever call in?? "Hey that Pionk is doing all right isn't he?? He's blocked a couple shots there and...." :loony:

oh and now Ralph from St James...
 

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Good post --and in my opinion, when you have to start complaining about the refs -- your team is in big trouble. Penalties seem to even out over time. Sometimes you get bad calls against you, and sometimes you get calls go your way.

This team is starting to slip, and the Jet's should concentrate on their mechanics and execution. When we get Copp and Kulikov back, that will help --and "especially" the underrated Bryan Little.

I complain about the refs when they suck. If it evens out great, but it sure doesn't seem like it does. I have a real feeling like some teams in this league get way more benefit of the doubt than others...
 

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I find that the Jets/Wild games are so boring that I don't even bother to watch, or when in Winnipeg don't go to the games anymore.
 

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Initial contact does not, and has never, given the opposing player the right to drag the goalie away from the net, which Parise did on the goal. That is what led to the goal. Hellebuyck was in position when Parise bumped into him, and was dragged to the right afterward.

Honestly, I'm not sure how you can possibly miss that from the overhead view.

Except he wasn’t really pushed, he might have been marginally bumped but that did no cause Parise to drag Helle 2 feet to the right and completely out of position to stop Staal’s shot.
I’m actually shocked to see you can’t see that tbh.

As long as I have watched hockey, I have understood the rule as if the player is pushed into a goalie by the goalie's own player it is not GI. To me it is blatently clear that #2 and #3 bump into Parise on top of the blue paint which causes him lose his balance and his body momentum moves Helle out of position. Like I said I didn't even think this was going to be a topic of controversy when watching the game, I expected controversy but due to the Kunin goal after the Morrissey missed call.

Helle's body language after that goal says a lot, normally he is pretty indignant when he feels he was interfered with, but after that goal he didn't act that way.

Anyways it seems emotions are running high and there is no point debating this goal until cooler heads prevail.
 

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I complain about the refs when they suck. If it evens out great, but it sure doesn't seem like it does. I have a real feeling like some teams in this league get way more benefit of the doubt than others...
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Well --if it makes you feel a bit better, and it helps let off some steam, get all over those refs --you'll feel a lot better. Unfortunately it won't help us in the standings. Bad calls are usually made against both teams tho.
 

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Well --if it makes you feel a bit better, and it helps let off some steam, get all over those refs --you feel a lot better. Unfortunately it won't help us in the standings. Bad calls are usually made against both teams tho.
yea, if only they could review things.....
 

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Well --if it makes you feel a bit better, and it helps let off some steam, get all over those refs --you feel a lot better. Unfortunately it won't help us in the standings. Bad calls are usually made against both teams tho.

yeah. It makes me feel better. We're likely going to be losing lots of games. Might as well enjoy what I can...
 
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Except he wasn’t really pushed, he might have been marginally bumped but that did no cause Parise to drag Helle 2 feet to the right and completely out of position to stop Staal’s shot.
I’m actually shocked to see you can’t see that tbh.

I am absolutely shocked that wasn't overturned. That was textbook interference in our goalie wasn't allowed to make the save.
 

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As cranked as I am about the officiating today, and I never complain about reffing, I'm more perplexed at 1290 - do they have these complete morons on speed dial for the post game show? It's unbearable to listen to. It's almost like they want to have the most uniformed callers possible. Dang, it's puzzling...
 

NorCalhockey

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Morrissey hammered in the numbers leading to a goal - no call.

Helle pushed 18 inches back - no call.

What a shock.
You're forgetting the high stick to (KFC? Fefe? - I can't recall) also in the 3rd period. Garbage refs don't make those calls against Wild in a tied game in the 3rd because they don't want to influence the outcome, then make a call in OT. Refs need to be shot into the sun never to be heard from again...
 

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I am absolutely shocked that wasn't overturned. That was textbook interference in our goalie wasn't allowed to make the save.
After all that celebrating it would be too hard for the league to overturn it........The fans in the building would be so upset, it wouldn't be fair to do that to them :sarcasm:
 
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