Post-Game Talk: Refs GIFT game to Wild 3-2

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JetsFan815

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LOL @ the title, I am guessing the fans were pumped up to a frenzy by a Sawyer homer call? I avoided TSN and saw the game for what it was. This was as thoroughly deserved as loss as you would see in the NHL. The only outcome that would have been more just considering the Jets play esp in that 3rd was if the Wild had won in regulation. Did not deserve 2 points, didn't even deserve 1 point. Wild treated them like the dirt on their boots and they didn't prove them otherwise.

Poolman and Morrissey pairing has got to go.

Laine's backcheck on that 1st goal is the kind of play that gets a star player benched or healthy scratched to send a message.
 

AlphaLackey

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I know people don't like the "prevent defence" when it doesn't work. Let me ask you this.

We're up by 1 with 10 minutes left. A goal for Minnesota is worth to them about, what.. 6 times what an insurance goal would be worth for us? Heck, even taking two minutes off the clock is probably worth about as much as an insurance goal would be for us. The team absolutely should be playing defence first, and noticeably playing defence first.

We could have been playing them exactly even in a tied game, and a blown non call leading to a defensive zone collapse giving a player a choice shot from 5 feet out can easily still happen. In fact if anything, the way Minnesota scored the goal just makes the opposite argument -- we failed in our efforts to put defence first.

Sometimes the other team gets lucky. Officiating randomness is just as much a part of the game as the zamboni and the overpriced beer. One can and should be zen about it, but one should never feel that it's "unmanly" or whatever to estimate the impact that it had.

Besides, look on the bright side -- we have something to blackmail Sawyer off the air with. Isn't that worth a point in the standings, in the long run?
 
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Romang67

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Two coach fines on same ref in a week would be something
Hopefully it would wake the media up to what an absolute farce the reffing in this league is. But really, the NHL would just continue with their zero-accountability bullshit by fining coaches who speak up against them, and then pretend that everything is fine and dandy because people don't publicly complain about the reffing.
 

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Finland loses, Jets get boned.

*sigh*

Not the best night for sure :D.

My two cents:

- Connor has no business on the PK, for an easy alternative just switch Ehlers there and I bet he would make a more of a difference with his speed alone. That said, the PK was actually pretty decent this game but not because of Connor (who is an awesome offensive player with no D)

- Our secondary scoring is non-existent, we are still way too top-heavy. Connor-Perreault-switch could be experimented with.

- We should stack the PP by playing Ehlers there, who cares what he thinks himself

- Niku in the press box looks slightly stupid. If he can contribute to offense while sucking defensively, then that is already an improvement

- PP taking too many shots off the high-point. This was the same way with Buff which indicates a system issue. The high-point should never be a go-to play.
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Yes, the D sucks but I'm not happy with the coaching either. Having such a thing as "key injuries" should not be a thing. Although of course it is tough to criticize from the outside.

Alright, onto to the next one.
 

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Sickening, this league is sickening. No integrity, no consistency, it’s a joke pure and simple.

No accountability either, no one needs to explain how that isn’t interference, just nope, good goal and see ya.

**** show, just a **** show.

Expecting I accountability from a league with Colin Campbell in an executive position is an impossibility.
 
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Romang67

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LOL @ the title, I am guessing the fans were pumped up to a frenzy by a Sawyer homer call? I avoided TSN and saw the game for what it was. This was as thoroughly deserved as loss as you would see in the NHL. The only outcome that would have been more just considering the Jets play esp in that 3rd was if the Wild had won in regulation. Did not deserve 2 points, didn't even deserve 1 point. Wild treated them like the dirt on their boots and they didn't prove them otherwise.

Poolman and Morrissey pairing has got to go.

Laine's backcheck on that 1st goal is the kind of play that gets a star player benched or healthy scratched to send a message.
I was watching the Wild feed. I still didn't miss the obvious penalties or the clear goalie interference on the GWG.

AFAIK, the rulebook doesn't state that if a team goes into prevent defense then the other team may freely break the rules.

I mean, just look at what neutral fans on the main board think of that GWG.
 

jepjepjoo

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LOL @ the title, I am guessing the fans were pumped up to a frenzy by a Sawyer homer call? I avoided TSN and saw the game for what it was. This was as thoroughly deserved as loss as you would see in the NHL. The only outcome that would have been more just considering the Jets play esp in that 3rd was if the Wild had won in regulation. Did not deserve 2 points, didn't even deserve 1 point. Wild treated them like the dirt on their boots and they didn't prove them otherwise.

Poolman and Morrissey pairing has got to go.

Laine's backcheck on that 1st goal is the kind of play that gets a star player benched or healthy scratched to send a message.

Refs blew plenty of calls... The first goal, Laine had to take Poolman's guy because Morrisey was out of position and Poolguy covered for him.

Jets sucked though.
 
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tbcwpg

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LOL @ the title, I am guessing the fans were pumped up to a frenzy by a Sawyer homer call? I avoided TSN and saw the game for what it was. This was as thoroughly deserved as loss as you would see in the NHL. The only outcome that would have been more just considering the Jets play esp in that 3rd was if the Wild had won in regulation. Did not deserve 2 points, didn't even deserve 1 point. Wild treated them like the dirt on their boots and they didn't prove them otherwise.

Poolman and Morrissey pairing has got to go.

Laine's backcheck on that 1st goal is the kind of play that gets a star player benched or healthy scratched to send a message.

All your points are valid.

The reffing was still brutal. Your post is of the "ends justify the means" variety. In that, you feel the loss was deserved so getting jobbed by refs to lose is fine
 

JetsFan815

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Morrissey hammered in the numbers leading to a goal - no call.

Helle pushed 18 inches back - no call.

What a shock.

Morrissey being on the receiving end of a questionable hit did not lead to that goal. The puck was cleared from the Jets zone all the way to the Wild zone. Morrissey went to the benched and changed. The Wild lugged carried the puck through the neutral zone and then took the o-zone, both d-we back in the zone.

Pushing a player into your goalie is not goalie interference. Good goal. I would have wanted that to stand if the Jets had scored it.
 

SensibleGuy

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Morrissey being on the receiving end of a questionable hit did not lead to that goal. The puck was cleared from the Jets zone all the way to the Wild zone. Morrissey went to the benched and changed. The Wild lugged carried the puck through the neutral zone and then took the o-zone, both d-we back in the zone.

Pushing a player into your goalie is not goalie interference. Good goal. I would have wanted that to stand if the Jets had scored it.

He wasn't pushed into Helly. Sorry but you are wrong. Clearly goalie interference.
 

GreatSaveEssensa

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Helly has to do a much better job of selling that interference. He didn't argue at all. Just got up and skating to the bench. With the horrid state of reffing these days, perception seems to be everything. If the goalie aint got a problem with it, it must of been good is what they may be thinking
 

BigZ65

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Morrissey being on the receiving end of a questionable hit did not lead to that goal. The puck was cleared from the Jets zone all the way to the Wild zone. Morrissey went to the benched and changed. The Wild lugged carried the puck through the neutral zone and then took the o-zone, both d-we back in the zone.

Pushing a player into your goalie is not goalie interference. Good goal. I would have wanted that to stand if the Jets had scored it.

Sure except with the call of a 2 or 5 minute penalty there's a stoppage, a faceoff in the Wild zone and the Jets have a man advantage, all with that particular tying goal not being possible.

Although three times when the Jets did get a man advantage in this game the officials found a penalty to call to negate it, so it may not have lasted very long.
 

JetsFan815

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All your points are valid.

The reffing was still brutal. Your post is of the "ends justify the means" variety. In that, you feel the loss was deserved so getting jobbed by refs to lose is fine

No, I disagree with the premise that reffing was "brutal" there were missed calls like they are in almost every game but nothing out of the range of a typical NHL game. I watched the Wild feed and didn't even think twice about the reffing, I am guessing the TSN homer call has people worked up. On the Wild feed they were complaining about penalties as well, esp the Scheifele double minor.
 
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Very good Laine last game. Awful Laine today. Hopefully he becomes more consistent as he matures
 
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