Ref blatantly influences outcome of game.

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I love when team A gets PP chances until they get a lead after being down by a goal or two. Then once team A gets the lead, team B gets multiple power plays to help regain that lead or tie the game.

Someone should bring a lawsuit accusing the refs of points shaving, because it's kind of what they're doing.

Since betting has become a part of the game they've gotten ridiculous about making sure to get shots on goals absolutely accurate yet one of the biggest factors affecting the outcome of a game - what constitutes a penalty or not - is completely score dependent.

 

[miscs75]

Someone should bring a lawsuit accusing the refs of points shaving, because it's kind of what they're doing.

Since betting has become a part of the game they've gotten ridiculous about making sure to get shots on goals absolutely accurate yet one of the biggest factors affecting the outcome of a game - what constitutes a penalty or not - is completely score dependent.

If they bring up a lawsuit, the people involved would just mysteriously vanish.

 

[Mattb124]

You can’t tell whether that’s a good call or a bad call from the angle provided by the OP. You really need to see what Frost did with his stick/stick hand to make the call. Whatever it was, he caused the puck carrier to lose the puck, which looks like it was going to spring a 2 on 1 going the other way.

 

[Ghost of Murph]

It was a chintzy call for OT. When it was made I thought about why a ref would make that call, knowing full well its impact. Something that we miss by watching on TV is the chatter between refs and players.

It's possible that the ref had previously warned the player, and what happened in OT was the tipping point. Refs tell players during the course of play to quit holding, let go of a stick, etc. Pretty much a fair warning that they are about to call something but are giving the player a chance to avoid getting a penalty. If fair warning is not respected then the ref will be quick on the whistle next time it happens.

 

[LPHabsFan]

If it wasn't called, and Calgary went on and scored right after, there would rightly be a thread about how a missed holding call led directly to the GWG.

You can see in the video that he wraps his arm around the midsection slowing him down, that also directly leads to what I'm assuming is a 2 on 1 since there are two Flames counter attacking with two Seattle players behind them.

His actions would have directly led to a scoring opportunity.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

 

[Fatass]

Yup. They regularly influence the outcome of games by making calls or letting obvious penalties go based on the score and the time left in the game.

There was a ref a few years ago caught on microphone, during a game, pretty much saying he manages the game. He got “retired” soon after. Can’t remember his name, but the league certainly tried to sweep it away.

 

[Rubi]

Imagine wrapping your arm over an opponent till you get called for a holding penalty, then looking at the ref and yelling “but I was holding my stick!”

I can imagine that... however thats not what happened.

 

[Rubi]

You can’t tell whether that’s a good call or a bad call from the angle provided by the OP. You really need to see what Frost did with his stick/stick hand to make the call. Whatever it was, he caused the puck carrier to lose the puck, which looks like it was going to spring a 2 on 1 going the other way.

Frost reached around the player with his arm and stick and knocked the puck away when the blade of his stick made contact with the puck. Great defensive play by Frost. It should not have been a penalty... any time.

 

[TGWL]

You mean the hand holding his own stick?

Yes. This is why the poster wanted another angle of what was going on with that hand.

 

[Barrie22]

Yes. This is why the poster wanted another angle of what was going on with that hand. View attachment 975182View attachment 975182View attachment 975182View attachment 975183

He only wanted a hug.

 

[Rubi]

Frost knockjng puck away using the blade of his stick. Great defense.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

They missed one on Frost earlier and made up for it.

That's all this is.

 

[MS]

The refs missed a *blatant* cross-check/pick play about 15 seconds earlier that opened up the ice for a great chance for Calgary to win the game, and even the Flame homer announcers were commenting on what a big break it was for Calgary.

This was a pure 'oops, we missed a call' instant make-up call.

 

[TGWL]

Frost knockjng puck away using the blade of his stick. Great defense.

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That isn't his stick near the puck.. He did swing his stick around which created the break in the play initially, but that's where the arm wraps around where fans wanted another angle.

 

[flyfysher]

At least a few times a year, I see games with the most appalling calls. And yeah, game management (make up) calls happen all of the time too. That’s why so many of us prefer the POs. Let them play.

 

[Bounces R Way]

An absolute horseshit call made by a gutless shrimp dicked coward of a man.

I'm used to it, the Flames have been getting the ass end of what the NHL has the gall to call officiating for many many years now.

 

[Mattb124]

Frost reached around the player with his arm and stick and knocked the puck away when the blade of his stick made contact with the puck. Great defensive play by Frost. It should not have been a penalty... any time.

I watched the broader sequence and you are very wrong. The hilarious part is Frost’s stick wasn’t even near the puck when the turnover happened. Guessing you can’t tell which player’s stick is which in the frame you posted in #37 above.

The turnover happened when Dunn tried to make a drop pass. He initially fanned on it because Frost was influencing his ability to make the pass (stick in on Dunn’s hands?), then Dunn tried again and it went off his own skate rather than back to his teammate (again, probably because Frost’s stick was in on Dunn’s hands). What Frost was doing to Dunn’s hands can’t be seen in the video, but the ref that made the call was in a great position to see it.

 

[Rubi]

Frost making a great defensive play to knock away the puck using the blade of his stick. You can see the puck on Dunns stick and Frost's stick just above that just before he knocks the puck away.

 

[Three On Zero]

I see an obvious penalty being called, its good to see the refs making the proper calls in overtime

 

[Mattb124]

Frost making a great defensive play to knock away the puck using the blade of his stick.

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That’s the wrong part of the sequence. You had the right one in #37. But I think you are seeing Dunn’s stick as Frost’s. If you watch the video it is pretty clear that Dunn has the puck on his blade and Frost’s stick blade is waving in the air in front of the players. The question is why did Dunn mess up a simple drop pass not once but twice? I think the answer is that Frost’s hand or stick was in on Dunn’s hands which is a penalty. When the ref - who was in great position - saw that the penalty led to a turnover which was going to lead to a break-away for the Flames, he called the penalty.

I don’t get the sour grapes for refs enforcing the rules, especially after even the Flames’ announcers made a comment that they benefited from a missed call which led to a scoring chance ~15 seconds earlier.

 

[M2Beezy]

That is one hell of a frustrating call to make, especially in OT. Probably 20 worse infractions not called throughout the game

 

[Rubi]

That’s the wrong part of the sequence. You had the right one in #37. But I think you are seeing Dunn’s stick as Frost’s. If you watch the video it is pretty clear that Dunn has the puck on his blade and Frost’s stick blade is waving in the air in front of the players. The question is why did Dunn mess up a simple drop pass not once but twice? I think the answer is that Frost’s hand or stick was in on Dunn’s hands which is a penalty. When the ref - who was in great position - saw that the penalty led to a turnover which was going to lead to a break-away for the Flames, he called the penalty.

I don’t get the sour grapes for refs enforcing the rules, especially after even the Flames’ announcers made a comment that they benefited from a missed call which led to a scoring chance ~15 seconds earlier.

This is a pic of Frost's stick after he has knocked the puck away..
Frost's stick is the one in front of Dunn
Dunn's stick is back by his skate trying to recover the puck after Frost knocked it away

 

[Master P]

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Are you time traveling from 6 hours from now after the refs hand the Super Bowl to the Chiefs ?