Speculation: Redefining Success
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TCB
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Went with win more than a playoff round. Admittedly was looking for win the cup but that wasn’t there.
Future assets would be nice if the bruins fall out of the race, but I honestly have no faith in Sweeney.
Future assets would be nice if the bruins fall out of the race, but I honestly have no faith in Sweeney.
quietbruinfan
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At very least Sacco has to make the playoffs to retain his job. I still think they will not make it, but it will be close. Even if it is small trades, they should try and gain assets. The rebuild begins.
I am no fan of Sacco and his bad changes and strange d combinations.
I am no fan of Sacco and his bad changes and strange d combinations.
Healthy Wrap
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The team as currently constituted is a far cry from being a contender. After yesterday's loss, I've resigned myself to the fact that they will probably back into the playoffs (for no other reason than the lack of quality competition in the East) and then bow out in the first round. Maybe they win a round. Whoop-dee-f***ing-doo
Given all of that, the logical answer should be "Trade assets for future pieces." Start making moves for the future; call up Poitras, Lysell, Merkulov and give them all a long look. But, and this is a big BUT, do you really want Don Sweeney and Cam Neely spearheading what would be yet another "retool?" I personally don't.
I wonder how Charlie "we measure success in Stanley Cups" Jacobs would answer this question.
Given all of that, the logical answer should be "Trade assets for future pieces." Start making moves for the future; call up Poitras, Lysell, Merkulov and give them all a long look. But, and this is a big BUT, do you really want Don Sweeney and Cam Neely spearheading what would be yet another "retool?" I personally don't.
I wonder how Charlie "we measure success in Stanley Cups" Jacobs would answer this question.
Over the volcano
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TCB
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Yep. Odds aren’t looking good, even the playoffs aren’t a sure thing.
The Bruins are 20-16-4 and in their next 6 games they face Toronto, Nyl, Edm,TB,FLA, and TB again.
Should be interesting!
At the very best I see them winning maybe 2 and coming out of it at just above 500 overall, and by the time the 4 nations rolls around, I still see them floundering right around that 500 mark. Playoffs aren’t a certainty my any means.
BruinsFan37
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They should limp into the playoffs (moneypuck has them at 77% odds). Honestly if it's another Bruins-Leafs matchup in Round 1, jokes aside, this might finally be the Leafs year. Would need to stay away from the main boards till the Leafs get blown out in Round 2 if that happens though.
So wining a round = success.
Making playoffs = neutral
Missing playoffs (either by trading away assets and giving up, or just plain sucking) = failure.
So wining a round = success.
Making playoffs = neutral
Missing playoffs (either by trading away assets and giving up, or just plain sucking) = failure.
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PlayMakers
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I don't want Sacco back if he can't fix the power play.
There is more talent there than most teams have to work with. There's no reason the Sharks, Kraken, Sabres, etc should be 10 spots higher than Boston.
There is more talent there than most teams have to work with. There's no reason the Sharks, Kraken, Sabres, etc should be 10 spots higher than Boston.
I know how this sounds, and I have my binkies. There are core players to build around.
However, there isn't one player on this roster I wouldn't trade. Not one.
Why? Because from management, to coaching, to players, this is all just spinning wheels, that's why. Say they make the playoffs, maybe they make the second round. Does anyone really think they're built to go anywhere at this point? Especially with their inconsistency, which persists?
If they tinker around the edges, as always, it'll be the same old story and we'll ll be back here again next season with the same foolishness.
As I have said, rightly or wrongly, I believe Sweeney and Neely have given everything that they can to this organization. There needs to be a rebuild. Instead of on the fly refueling at 2,000 ft.
LouJersey
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I had this team with 110 pts and making the ECF.
Not happening more than likely. I suppose they could catch lightning in a bottle and do something but don't expect them to. I would like to see them sell for once from Marchand on down to Geekie. Tell Brad you'll want him back in the summer, but it's important to get some talented young assets to this organization.
Not happening more than likely. I suppose they could catch lightning in a bottle and do something but don't expect them to. I would like to see them sell for once from Marchand on down to Geekie. Tell Brad you'll want him back in the summer, but it's important to get some talented young assets to this organization.
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I'm where I was at the start of the season. I always thought we were gonna struggle to score, and we are.
Finish 3rd or as a WC and maybe win a round in the post season. That's our ceiling.
Finish 3rd or as a WC and maybe win a round in the post season. That's our ceiling.
BruinDust
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This team is arguably the worst offensive team in the league and a successful season at this point would be simply fixing this team's offensive problems so going into next season they aren't in the same offensive funk that they are in this season.
PlayMakers
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I don't like using playoff rounds as a baromoter for progress. The playoffs are just so... random. Luck is such a huge factor. In what other sport is the best team in the league more likely to NOT win a championship.
The regular season and the playoffs are just two different animals. Two years ago, Florida only made the playoffs because Pittsburgh lost to the 5 worst teams in the league down the stretch. The Panthers went on to beat the best team in the league and lose in the Finals. Did anyone think, during that season, that the Panthers were a Cup contender? They finished with 92 points, 17th in the NHL, 23rd PK in the NHL.
So, it could be that this Bruins team, with their heavy roster, is better suited for the playoffs, but I don't know that they're actually better or in a better place than they were last year. I certainly wouldn't want to see them run it back with this same group again next year.
The regular season and the playoffs are just two different animals. Two years ago, Florida only made the playoffs because Pittsburgh lost to the 5 worst teams in the league down the stretch. The Panthers went on to beat the best team in the league and lose in the Finals. Did anyone think, during that season, that the Panthers were a Cup contender? They finished with 92 points, 17th in the NHL, 23rd PK in the NHL.
So, it could be that this Bruins team, with their heavy roster, is better suited for the playoffs, but I don't know that they're actually better or in a better place than they were last year. I certainly wouldn't want to see them run it back with this same group again next year.
In my view, a season success is getting in the PO. Gets you a chance to win the SC. Voted for that. For me it is the minimum success.
Then when in the PO, it all depends......
The ultimate professionnel sport success is winning! And winning it ALL!
Then when in the PO, it all depends......
The ultimate professionnel sport success is winning! And winning it ALL!
rebuilding by definition is: you know when it start, never know where it will end!
Dennis Bonvie
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If they were to win a round, they'd have to beat a damn good team.
And if they could beat a damn good team, they could probably beat another one too.
That said, B's look like a one and done team at best right now.
I can almost guarantee that will not happen this year. I also suspect the phenomenon has run its course. It is unlikely to happen again.
Craig Berube will see to that.
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Painful but necessary if you are actually committed to contender not pretender.
This team is not going anywhere, and it probably won't, as long as Charlie is in love with Cam and Don.
As long as they are here, nothing will truly change. Because what matters most to them and to Charlie, as much as he cares, is the bottom line. Playoff gate. Seems to be enough to allow them to keep spinning their wheels.
So, the logic is they have to be terrible for those two to finally get canned. But I don't see it. Not yet.
(Sigh.)
Fair enough. If Swayman stands on his head for a series, we might be able to steal one. But that's about it. Like I said, 1 series win is our ceiling.
