Salary Cap: Red Wings 31.1M cap space

[datsyukfan]

So do we think the wings will have room for another 8M+ defensemen once Ed and Seider get paid. Is it even feasible if we want a balanced roster?

After seider and Ray there really isn’t anybody to pay for a few years, with us also have our few bad contracts coming off the books. Definitely have room to add an $8 mill d-man

 

[Henkka]

After seider and Ray there really isn’t anybody to pay for a few years, with us also have our few bad contracts coming off the books. Definitely have room to add an $8 mill d-man

Pretty much this.

Also think Edvinsson could be a lot cheaper than Seider on his 2nd deal.

Ed isn't getting anyhow the "norris" role Seider was able to do. When Seider is quarterbacking the 1st PP for oncoming years, it's very hard for Edvinsson to score points for a lucrative contract. He'll be the cheap "kronwall" behind "lidström".

Edvinsson's bigger deal is very far in the future. He still has 2 ELC years left.

 

[JoesuffP]

IMO wings don’t need to make the same mistakes almost all teams are making rushing out to pay guys elite talent money. Go 3-4 years and if they are worth 10+M on their next contract I’ll gladly pay them means we are in great shape. What has that Matthew’s contract benefited anybody but himself that whole duration he was paid top dollar even before he was a top dollar player and saved 1-2M for the last two years? Not to mention the risk of injury or just not being that guy. I just don’t get it

 

[JoesuffP]

Just look at that Dhalin contract. Great player but how many years before that becomes a good deal cap wise? And then you have to pay him again anyways?

Best case scenario is Stuzle who is making what he is worth at the moment but not surpassing it really. And then they have to wait closer and closer to when he gets another deal they end up earning way more money. It’s a grift dumb teams like buffalo like to pat themselves on the back for

 

[norrisnick]

IMO wings don’t need to make the same mistakes almost all teams are making rushing out to pay guys elite talent money. Go 3-4 years and if they are worth 10+M on their next contract I’ll gladly pay them means we are in great shape. What has that Matthew’s contract benefited anybody but himself that whole duration he was paid top dollar even before he was a top dollar player and saved 1-2M for the last two years? Not to mention the risk of injury or just not being that guy. I just don’t get it

The problem with the Matthews deal was he took a bridge at max term dollar value. Had Matthews' 2nd contract been 8 years there would be 3 years left on it now rather than this silly $13.2M one that's kicking off now. It's the max term 2nd contracts like Jack/Quinn Hughes or Heiskanen or Stutzle you should be looking at.

Just look at that Dhalin contract. Great player but how many years before that becomes a good deal cap wise? And then you have to pay him again anyways?

Best case scenario is Stuzle who is making what he is worth at the moment but not surpassing it really. And then they have to wait closer and closer to when he gets another deal they end up earning way more money. It’s a grift dumb teams like buffalo like to pat themselves on the back for

Dahlin, much like Matthews, got bridged. That's why they are as expensive as they are now.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

About 20 mil left.

Mo and Ray will cut into that by 16. 3.5-4 between Berggren and Joey.

We gotta dump Holl and Husso next.

 

[lilidk]

About 20 mil left.

Mo and Ray will cut into that by 16. 3.5-4 between Berggren and Joey.

We gotta dump Holl and Husso next.

I expect Veleno will be also gone

 

[PelagicJoe]

Ok, I'm going to try to update our current roster. Feel free to move wingers and d-men around.

Cat-Larkin-Raymond
Tank-Compher-Kane
Berggren-Copp-Ras
Motte-??? (Veleno? Danielson? Kasper?)-Fischer

Chiarot-Seider
Ed-Gus
Maatta-Petry
Holl/maybe AlJo

Talbot
Husso
Lyon

Campbell/Cossa/Alexander/Whoever else is in GR

 

[norrisnick]

Ok, I'm going to try to update our current roster. Feel free to move wingers and d-men around.

Cat-Larkin-Raymond
Tank-Compher-Kane
Berggren-Copp-Ras
Motte-??? (Veleno? Danielson? Kasper?)-Fischer

Chiarot-Seider
Ed-Gus
Maatta-Petry
Holl/maybe AlJo

Talbot
Husso
Lyon

Campbell/Cossa/Alexander/Whoever else is in GR

One thing to note is that Ray, Kane, and Tarasenko are all pretty much exclusively right wings.

 

[Henkka]

One thing to note is that Ray, Kane, and Tarasenko are all pretty much exclusively right wings.

At the Playoffs, Tarasenko got LW minutes at Barkov line:

Tarasenko - Barkov - Reinhart

 

[SantosHalper]

So uh, Stevie getting ready to trade for Petro now?

 

[lilidk]

So uh, Stevie getting ready to trade for Petro now?

Piet...

 

[Shaman464]

At the Playoffs, Tarasenko got LW minutes at Barkov line:

Tarasenko - Barkov - Reinhart

And the Panthers fan felt he was a disaster on that line.

 

[Golden_Jet]

At the Playoffs, Tarasenko got LW minutes at Barkov line:

Tarasenko - Barkov - Reinhart

Most of the time was on third line with Lundell, there was a few games where Verhaghe was taken off top line though, and tank put there.

 

[Oddbob]

Not sure what takes so long with Mo and Ray. Even in the presser today no one even asked him how close they were to signing.

 

[ZDH]

And the Panthers fan felt he was a disaster on that line.

Yea they were adamant that Tank only plays well as a RW and making him play LW isn't an option.

 

[Henkka]

Yea they were adamant that Tank only plays well as a RW and making him play LW isn't an option.

I really like more of balanced 3 lines than solid Top6, Tarasenko on wrong side.

Who has that deep Top9 offense, is a contender.

I'd like to build towards that.

 

[lilidk]

I really like more of balanced 3 lines than solid Top6, Tarasenko on wrong side.

Who has that deep Top9 offense, is a contender.

I'd like to build towards that.

Id put Berggren with Tarasenko on the third line , Florida fan said , he is good with prospects and good defensively , we just don't have third line center, try Veleno there?

 

[Henkka]

Id put Berggren with Tarasenko on the third line , Florida fan said , he is good with prospects and good defensively , we just don't have third line center, try Veleno there?

Or maybe even Copp. He'll crash the net and corners, when Berg+Tank will do their skill thing.

If you put the 4th line (Motte - Veleno - Fischer) on very small minutes.

 

[LongTimeDRWF]

I really like more of balanced 3 lines than solid Top6, Tarasenko on wrong side.

Who has that deep Top9 offense, is a contender.

I'd like to build towards that.

It would be real nice to be able to truly roll four lines every game.

 

[Shaman464]

I love Tank as a player, but all things considered I still think the needle hasn’t moved since last season

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Or maybe even Copp. He'll crash the net and corners, when Berg+Tank will do their skill thing.

If you put the 4th line (Motte - Veleno - Fischer) on very small minutes.

I think you’re watching a different Copp than the rest of us.

Copp never was or will be a crash the net, bang in the corners player. Put Copp on that line and watch him fumble the puck and spend the rest of his shift defending. The dude should only be a shutdown 4c at this point.

 

[LongTimeDRWF]

Id put Berggren with Tarasenko on the third line , Florida fan said , he is good with prospects and good defensively , we just don't have third line center, try Veleno there?

Joey V and Berggren did show some chemistry together on a few different line combos, if he is still here I am sure they will try it. I would like to see the GR line of Berggren, Kasper and Masur get an early season crack in the lineup as a kid line too, that group may be ready as an unit.

 

[Henkka]

Joey V and Berggren did show some chemistry together on a few different line combos, if he is still here I am sure they will try it. I would like to see the GR line of Berggren, Kasper and Masur get an early season crack in the lineup as a kid line too, that group may be ready as an unit.

It was a great pre-season line Kostin - Veleno - Berggren.

Now change Tarasenko there instead of Kostin and watch out....

 

[Redwing66]

Really hope they can trade Veleno - a trade involving him and Holl would be spectacular. We need one more D-man and enough space to allow Mazur/Danielson/Kasper getting serious looks