Ail
Based and Rangerspilled.
Then he will be fired and we can start all over. So let's start talking new coaching options.
How about Mark Messier?
Recurring issues with this team
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Then he will be fired and we can start all over. So let's start talking new coaching options.
How about Mark Messier?
Paulie Walnutz
HFNYR JUST AS SOFT AS NYR
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Exactly....
One year of a top 5 pick, and then signing one of Halak, Elliott, Hiller who are all UFAs, doesn't sound like worst plan if you are looking to take the team in a different direction
Samuel Culper III
Mr. Woodhull...
Don't think that's what he said.
He said once AV realizes how the personnel lacks, he'll adopt a similar system as Torts had, which will inevitably lead to him getting fired so why not start discussing new coaches now? And I'm fairly certain it was all tongue in cheek.
He said once AV realizes how the personnel lacks, he'll adopt a similar system as Torts had, which will inevitably lead to him getting fired so why not start discussing new coaches now? And I'm fairly certain it was all tongue in cheek.
Ail
Based and Rangerspilled.
Do you somehow expect Sather's 13 year plan to be any damn different once this coach is gone if he's still the GM?
RealCatFishHunter
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last year the team changed when they aquired ryan clowe. yeah he was definitely not the best player but he worked hard and he was a baddd dude. they guy would fight for anyone on the team after being with them for a few short weeks and it brought the guys together. the reoccuring thing is the rangers keep getting rid of a part of their heart and it keeps biting them in the ass.
Hire Sather
He Is Our Star
We also won a playoff series without him as he played what 1 game + 1 period in that series?
RealCatFishHunter
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yeah they looked really good against boston too right? i'm just saying the reoccuring theme is that they're too soft and whenever they get a good lockerroom guy who will fight for his teammates and the name on the front of his jersey, they get rid of them and then wonder why they get out hustled, and outmanned a majority of the time.
And again fighting isn't all i'm talking about. I'm talking playing hard every shift, banging bodies, putting your body on the line. and doing something when your team is down 3-1 and not letting the game turn into a 9-2 game.
Maybe theres a point somewhere in your general theme...but Ryane Clowe was/is a beat up tomato can. Brassard, who is anything but tough, had a much bigger impact.
the trade for nash destroyed this team. I don't care what you guys say, this team has no heart and that was always the rangers problem. But when we had dubby etc. that was the first time the team had heart. stuck up for team mates etc..
RealCatFishHunter
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not arguing that brassard didn't have a major impact. i'm just saying the rangers entire attitude changed when clowe was acquired. he is beaten up and no chance should've gotten resigned, however the guy made the rangers squad not a complete pushover
This is a bottom 4 playoff team in the East. Good enough to make the playoffs and maybe win a round or two but don't have the depth and size to win 16 in the playoffs. And this is going piss off the henrik fan club. The King hasn't exactly show that he can carry a team for more than a round in the playoffs either.
NYR94
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The recurring issue is Sather. For whatever reasons the organization will change coaches, change players, but not change GM. Last time I checked the GM is the one who picks the coaches and players. If his yearly combination of coach and player personnel fails to achieve the ultimate goal every season he's been here, isn't it time for him to go? How much worse can his replacement be? 5 playoff round wins in 12 seasons and NO Stanley Cups doesn't warrant the job security Sather has had.
What is his plan? What is the team identity under Sather? He's making it up as he goes. Last spring it was the coach's fault. Can't wait to see who he blames after this season.
What is his plan? What is the team identity under Sather? He's making it up as he goes. Last spring it was the coach's fault. Can't wait to see who he blames after this season.
Or trade him to one or two who can score a bunch..winning 6-5 gets same 2 points as winning 1-0 SO
Doctor King Schultz
Garian Maborik
I agree with this completely, as I'm sure many here do. The GM is holding the team back more than anything else is.
94now
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I think you've got it wrong. Players do not lose the game as much as coaches do. AV was badly outplayed by Mac.
We played 3 games so far. The first game was a continuation of preseason, it was 180deg turn away from Torts hockey. Puck possession, no dump-n-chase, no vigorous forecheck. We lost because we could not play that way. Nash could not get over blue line with the puck for his life. The rest were either worse or no much better. The team could not play VAN hockey. Okay AV said, play the hockey you can. He surprised Sutter who had his game prep expecting VAN hockey from Rangers. Instead Torts should be proud of Rangers showing in LA. They turn Torts teachings into one of the best performances of the Blueshirts. What we played in SJ was neither AV stile nor Torts hockey. It was a hybrid that I am sure AV will never repeat. Plus his team was tired and could not match against a quite hot Sharks. The fact that both goalies were off entirely resulted in spanking, but Rangers were not as bad you picture them.
Rangers are the work in progress. That is why I hate to change coaches. Well, we have to accept it, I guess.
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Raspewtin
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so you'd like Dubinsky and Anisimov back at the expense of Nash? $4.5 million dollars for 10 goals and heart. Unacceptable. This team would've been out of the playoffs last year if the Nash trade didn't happen. Some posters overvalue "heart" way too ****ing much.
Fanned On It
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For the record, I didn't mean to come across as one of the: "This team sucks the season's over we're not making the playoffs!!!!" types... I was more speaking to the obvious weaknesses our team has had for the past three seasons (at least) and more so how this hurts my enjoyment of watching this team play hockey. It just alway seems like there's a level of skill that is missing from our group when you compare it to the team on the other side of the ice. Even Phoenix looked more confident/skilled than us in game 1.
THIS IS NOT A DOOM and GLOOM thread. Just talking about some issues I've noticed. I STILL think we're going to make the playoffs and I'm NOT asking for AV's head. I'm just wondering if our roster is capable of playing the type of system AV wants.
EDIT: Oh and the fact that some of you are bringing up the "back-to-back" and "tired" excuses for the loss against SJ is appalling. Have you guys really brainwashed yourselves into believing that team is already exhausted at the third game of the season? I don't want to hear **** about the fact that it was a back-to-back game. Accept the fact that we sucked in that game and it had nothing to do with it being the second game in two nights.
People only remember the heart and hard work of the 2011 team
they forget that Gaborik was a god damn scoring machine that year and Henrik played out of his face for the entire season
the problem last year was NOT a lack of heart...it was the utter disappearance of Marion Gaborik and a coaching regime that had run its course
the Rangers haven't struggled in recent history because of a lack of heart, they've struggled from a lack of scoring, plain and simple. Look at their more successul seasons since the lockout and what do you see? Jagr and Gaborik scoring like madmen
