helicecopter
Registered User
First of all, i want to make clear that i am an Ovechkin fan and so i hope the best for him.
I‘m just a little bit puzzled with his numbers.
It‘s not that his numbers are not good, obviously; what left me perplexed his the progression of his numbers along the last three years, so i‘d like to get some reassurances about his development.
2001-02
Super League (Reg. Season) 22 2 2 4
Super League (Playoffs) 3 0 0 0
U18 Team Russia U18 WJC IIHF (Intl.) 8 14 4 18
Dynamo Moscow 2 Super League (Farm) 19 18 8 26
2002-03
Super League (Reg. Season) 40 8 8 16
Super League (Playoffs) 5 0 0 0
U20 Team Russia U20 IIHF WJC (Intl.) 6 6 1 7
U18 Team Russia U18 WJC IIHF (Intl.) 6 9 4 13
2003-04
Super League (Reg. Season) 30 9 8 17
Well, his numbers as a 16yrs old were almost unbelievable.
I‘m not sure, but i guess Dynamo Moscow 2 plays in a men‘s league and even if it is the 3rd league for importance in Russia, scoring a goal per game against men is something unheard by me for a 16rs old.
As an underager at the U18 WJC he just dominated scoring 14 goals in 8 games! He even made his debut in the super league scoring two times despite barely playing in the 22 games he dressed for dynamo.
Last year he started the season in great fashion, he did great in the first third of RSL regular season.
Then he faced some problems, due probably moreover to fatigue and ended up with 16 points in 40 games. Just great for a 17yrs old in the RSL, even if he produced much more in the first couple of months of the season.
In the U20 WJC he failed to score in 4 games out of 6 games he played and specifically in both semifinal and final. He wasn‘t the leading scorer in the tournament.
In the U18 WJC, playing against his peers, he was 3rd in points and tied for goal with pushkarev, which is something new for him, used to overmatching every other player his age in previous competition.
He failed to match his outstanding production set the year before as an underager and failed to lead his team through the semifinals in front of their homecrowd.
This year he is playing on Dynamo first line and has 17 in 30 games. If you think about the icetime he is getting this year and you compare it with icetime he got the years before you realize his production has probably remained the same. I mean the points per minutes-played ratio looks to be similar. So, looking at the mere numbers it looks to me that his offensive production has not improved at all in the last year and so i was more impressed with that production accomplished as 17yrs old than with the same one as an 18yrs old. The production has even decreased in junior competition.
I know that numbers don‘t tell the whole story so i‘m asking to you to drive away my doubts if it is the case.
These are my questions:
Has he improved offensively in the last year despite similar production? Is he now really a more dangerous/complete scorer than in april 2002?
Has he improved in other departments in the last year ? Is he a better player overall now (has he improved his defensive awarness, determination, skills, play along the boards,or whatever you want..) or has he just gained more endurance along his physical maturing?
I‘m waiting for your opinions!
In addition, i‘d like to know where i can find the updated stats of Ovechkin and Malkin, if someone have a good link…thanks in advance!
I‘m just a little bit puzzled with his numbers.
It‘s not that his numbers are not good, obviously; what left me perplexed his the progression of his numbers along the last three years, so i‘d like to get some reassurances about his development.
2001-02
Super League (Reg. Season) 22 2 2 4
Super League (Playoffs) 3 0 0 0
U18 Team Russia U18 WJC IIHF (Intl.) 8 14 4 18
Dynamo Moscow 2 Super League (Farm) 19 18 8 26
2002-03
Super League (Reg. Season) 40 8 8 16
Super League (Playoffs) 5 0 0 0
U20 Team Russia U20 IIHF WJC (Intl.) 6 6 1 7
U18 Team Russia U18 WJC IIHF (Intl.) 6 9 4 13
2003-04
Super League (Reg. Season) 30 9 8 17
Well, his numbers as a 16yrs old were almost unbelievable.
I‘m not sure, but i guess Dynamo Moscow 2 plays in a men‘s league and even if it is the 3rd league for importance in Russia, scoring a goal per game against men is something unheard by me for a 16rs old.
As an underager at the U18 WJC he just dominated scoring 14 goals in 8 games! He even made his debut in the super league scoring two times despite barely playing in the 22 games he dressed for dynamo.
Last year he started the season in great fashion, he did great in the first third of RSL regular season.
Then he faced some problems, due probably moreover to fatigue and ended up with 16 points in 40 games. Just great for a 17yrs old in the RSL, even if he produced much more in the first couple of months of the season.
In the U20 WJC he failed to score in 4 games out of 6 games he played and specifically in both semifinal and final. He wasn‘t the leading scorer in the tournament.
In the U18 WJC, playing against his peers, he was 3rd in points and tied for goal with pushkarev, which is something new for him, used to overmatching every other player his age in previous competition.
He failed to match his outstanding production set the year before as an underager and failed to lead his team through the semifinals in front of their homecrowd.
This year he is playing on Dynamo first line and has 17 in 30 games. If you think about the icetime he is getting this year and you compare it with icetime he got the years before you realize his production has probably remained the same. I mean the points per minutes-played ratio looks to be similar. So, looking at the mere numbers it looks to me that his offensive production has not improved at all in the last year and so i was more impressed with that production accomplished as 17yrs old than with the same one as an 18yrs old. The production has even decreased in junior competition.
I know that numbers don‘t tell the whole story so i‘m asking to you to drive away my doubts if it is the case.
These are my questions:
Has he improved offensively in the last year despite similar production? Is he now really a more dangerous/complete scorer than in april 2002?
Has he improved in other departments in the last year ? Is he a better player overall now (has he improved his defensive awarness, determination, skills, play along the boards,or whatever you want..) or has he just gained more endurance along his physical maturing?
I‘m waiting for your opinions!
In addition, i‘d like to know where i can find the updated stats of Ovechkin and Malkin, if someone have a good link…thanks in advance!