Really Who's in the Chychrun Sweepsatkes?

[Ray Martyniuk]

Toronto can't really be in the Jacob Chychrun sweepstakes can they? What would they have to offer besides their first rounder in 2022...Both Timothy Liljegren and Rasmus Sandin have to be in the picture...what about the goalie prospect? TO has Woll and won't be parting with him anytime soon. So TO is out. Boston has what exactly? Their first rounder in 2022 and... Frederic...so what! U Vaakanainen,J Zboril, and J DeBrusk who incidentally no one wants!LA? Well the Kings have a shit load to offer but their first rounder is off the table I'm sure! Prospects the Kings in have in spades with a tonne in Ontario with the Reign. LA could offer 6-7 players for Jacob Chychrun easily! I guess it depends on who the Arizona Coyotes are after! I say the Kings and Coyotes make it a go but the Arizona teams throws in Clayton Keller while the LA squad ante's up more! Make it a 11 for 2 deal that rocks the hockey world or at least has fans taking notice!!!

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[Kaners Bald Spot]

It's a better option to let the kids grow and see what you have, while fixing the LD problem via UFA.
I saw my old team make this mistake with Seth Jones. The Kings shouldn't do that. from my limited opinion, they're not a top pairing D away from being cup contenders. Those are the type of moves that teams that are one piece away or toward the end of their window make.

Doughty and Chychrun would be very nice, but at what cost?

Don't do it, Rob.

 

[Choralone]

Hell, Kings won their cups with puck-carriers on the right, and stay-at-homes on the left. We just need someone solid on the left - not an offensive wizard. We've already got Durzi, Clarke, and Spence for all the wizardry we need. I've changed my mind - I'd rather have Jeff Chychrun.

 

[LAKings88]

It all depends on cost really.

Turcotte + Grans + 1st

Is still my offer.

JC is 23 and signed to a nice contract.

No brainer Imho.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

It all depends on cost really.

Turcotte + Grans + 1st

Is still my offer.

JC is 23 and signed to a nice contract.

No brainer Imho.

It depends on if Seth Jones set the market.
Stan Bowman paid a king's ransom for him.
Turcotte has been a bit disappointing so far, so I guess they could make that work, but the Coyotes would probably still want the equivalent of another 1st round prospect. Maybe Bjornfot?

If it cost Turcotte+Bjornfot+1st+2nd would you still do it?

I say this with the understanding that it would probably cost more than Bjornfot.

 

[kingsfan]

It's a better option to let the kids grow and see what you have, while fixing the LD problem via UFA.
I saw my old team make this mistake with Seth Jones. The Kings shouldn't do that. from my limited opinion, they're not a top pairing D away from being cup contenders. Those are the type of moves that teams that are one piece away or toward the end of their window make.

Doughty and Chychrun would be very nice, but at what cost?

Don't do it, Rob.

I don't think we're a player away either, mostly because I don't have near the same level of confidence in what we have in net as I did 10 years ago, but if we look at 2012, I don't think many of us thought we were one piece away either when we traded for Carter while outside the playoff picture.

Again, I don't think we're just one player away either but one well placed piece that addresses a major need and helps put everyone else into better placing/minutes/situations like the Carter deal did can pay off huge.

 

[kingsfan]

While his stats are bad for the year, much of it is the result of a terrible start. In his last 18 games he has eight points and is a -3. First 16 games, two points and a -24.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

I don't think we're a player away either, mostly because I don't have near the same level of confidence in what we have in net as I did 10 years ago, but if we look at 2012, I don't think many of us thought we were one piece away either when we traded for Carter while outside the playoff picture.

Again, I don't think we're just one player away either but one placed piece that addresses a major need and helps put everyone else into better placing/minutes/situations like the Carter deal did can pay off huge.

The other thing is that with Kopitar still performing and under contract for a while, and Byfield with the big club there isn't enough room for all of Turcotte/Vilardi/Kupari in the top 6 anyway.
It's fine to trade one of them and some other lesser prospects if that would get the job done, but I don't think they should be trading multiple firsts or anything like that. I'm also a big fan of Kaliyev so keep him too.

 

[tkb81]

It's a better option to let the kids grow and see what you have, while fixing the LD problem via UFA.
I saw my old team make this mistake with Seth Jones. The Kings shouldn't do that. from my limited opinion, they're not a top pairing D away from being cup contenders. Those are the type of moves that teams that are one piece away or toward the end of their window make.

Doughty and Chychrun would be very nice, but at what cost?

Don't do it, Rob.

a trade has to be made , we have too much young potential talent for them to be on this team .. and well defencemen are hard af to find on a decent deal and a decent age .. the UFA route is okay but you will over pay .. and the player is usually a bit longer in the tooth ... lots of things to think about really

 

[LAKings88]

It depends on if Seth Jones set the market.
Stan Bowman paid a king's ransom for him.
Turcotte has been a bit disappointing so far, so I guess they could make that work, but the Coyotes would probably still want the equivalent of another 1st round prospect. Maybe Bjornfot?

If it cost Turcotte+Bjornfot+1st+2nd would you still do it?

I say this with the understanding that it would probably cost more than Bjornfot.

Nope, that’s my best offer. I’m not as big on Turcotte as some tho.

Turcotte JAD And Grans are awesome excess at this point. Spence as well honestly but I’d like them to keep him. But I think Arizona would be interested. The first could be a lotto pick I guess and that is a risk.

 

[kilowatt]

Acquiring Chychrun isn't just some rental trade though. He's signed for another three years at $4.6 million and he's only 23. He's only two months older than Jacob Moverare and a year older than Gabe Vilardi, Jaret Anderson-Dolan, and Mikey Anderson. See how the kids do? He's still a kid!

 

[kingsfan]

Nope, that’s my best offer. I’m not as big on Tircotte as some tho.

Turcotte JAD And Grans are awesome excess at this point. Spence as well honestly but I’d like them to keep him. But I think Arizona would be interested. The first could be a lotto pick I guess and that is a risk.

I'd assume any deal would have a deferral to help lottery protect the pick (We'd have the right to defer the 1st to the following year if it's top 10 for example).

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

It all depends on cost really.

Turcotte + Grans + 1st

Is still my offer.

JC is 23 and signed to a nice contract.

No brainer Imho.

I like Turcotte and Grans so no to that and no to the first rounder as Arizona already has 3(2022) and needs players right now

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

It all depends on cost really.

Turcotte + Grans + 1st

Is still my offer.

JC is 23 and signed to a nice contract.

No brainer Imho.

No to Turcotte and Grans because with them the Kings don't know what they have quite yet...How about Vilardi for starters maybe Lizotte and Lemieux as well as couple of D-men...Anderson has to be at the top of Arizona's wish list with Moverare a consideration too

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

Nope, that’s my best offer. I’m not as big on Tircotte as some tho.

Turcotte JAD And Grans are awesome excess at this point. Spence as well honestly but I’d like them to keep him. But I think Arizona would be interested. The first could be a lotto pick I guess and that is a risk.

Blake and the Kings will have to do something about players in Ontario that will completing their 3rd season soon? This is how Blake screwed things up putting all the eggs in one basket...Turcotte isn't worth the first rounder he was?Neither is Kupari...but if stupid Blake had have left them develop in their various environments and not force fed them in Ontario the Kings would have been better for it and so would have the players been further down the developmental road than they are! I guess Futa knew that

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

I'd assume any deal would have a deferral to help lottery protect the pick (We'd have the right to defer the 1st to the following year if it's top 10 for example).

Kings will make the play-offs I'm pretty sure about that

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

Acquiring Chychrun isn't just some rental trade though. He's signed for another three years at $4.6 million and he's only 23. He's only two months older than Jacob Moverare and a year older than Gabe Vilardi, Jaret Anderson-Dolan, and Mikey Anderson. See how the kids do? He's still a kid!

Kings have a lot of players that have to make the Kings or be sent elsewhere. Besides that Blake won't get near the value spent on the Vilardi's,JAD's...of the Kings/Reign

 

[funky]

All for trading for Chychrun if the price is right.

imagine the uptick he gets playing with DD and the uptick Drew get playing with him.

true PP quarterback.

fits the youth age demographic.

has size and plays good Defence even if he won’t drill guys through the boards.

contract is a dream. Frees up cap space to go after more assets.

empties out some of our prospect capital as we don’t have enough room for everyone and will risk loosing some to waivers like Clague in the upcoming years.

Chychrun - Doughty
Anderson - Durzi
Moverare - Roy

plus we have Clarke and a few others coming.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Hard pass, HARD PASS. We don't even know what any of these players are yet. Kings are 3 years away from making a trade like this. If Kings are trading they should be doing another Arvidsson type deal.

 

[LAKings88]

Hard pass, HARD PASS. We don't even know what any of these players are yet. Kings are 3 years away from making a trade like this. If Kings are trading they should be doing another Arvidsson type deal.

Kopi
Danault
Byfield
————
Lizotte
Kupari (always forget him, wing?)
JAD (wing?)
Turcotte (wing?)
Vilardi (wing?)
Thomas
Madden (wing?)
Helenius

Doughty
Roy
Walker
————
Clarke
Faber
Spence
Grans

They aren’t all going to make it

 

[Reclamation Project]

It's so early, I'd hate to trade one of these kids and every time the Quebec Nordiques are in town for the next 12 years they light the Kings up.

 

[No Name The Nameless]

If you don’t trade some you will either lose them or stunt their development. You can’t fit all the water through the funnel

 

[funky]

It's so early, I'd hate to trade one of these kids and every time the Quebec Nordiques are in town for the next 12 years they light the Kings up.

I agree that that is a chance we take, but we’re not exactly getting chopped liver back. We’re getting a young, big, offensive Defenceman on bargin bun contract. He not only feels in need no, but he feels a need that we have in the future as I see no one in our system like him. We can also trade from a position of strength to get him.

I would propose that we send Björnfot back as part of the deal as he and Anderson are very similar and neither one is a top pairing defenseman. Either one’s gonna come back to bite us by scoring 50 points a year. Something that Chychrun is very capable of
yes we would have to include our first. But we’re also going to be picking mid round and statistically that would be a gamble I am willing to take.

It’s that third piece that can be a little scary. It would definitely have to be a Vilardi or a Turcotte type player. I have higher hopes than most on this board for both those players but at the same time I am seeing them both top out as very solid second line players. That is something that can easily be acquired in free agency if we must. Both those players it seems the organization is trying to move to wing due to our center depth.


As long as Clarke, Kaliyev, and Byfield are not included in the deal I am more than happy to let a few of our prospects go for a proven young defenseman.

 

[kinghock]

I agree that that is a chance we take, but we’re not exactly getting chopped liver back. We’re getting a young, big, offensive Defenceman on bargin bun contract. He not only feels in need no, but he feels a need that we have in the future as I see no one in our system like him. We can also trade from a position of strength to get him.

I would propose that we send Björnfot back as part of the deal as he and Anderson are very similar and neither one is a top pairing defenseman. Either one’s gonna come back to bite us by scoring 50 points a year. Something that Chychrun is very capable of
yes we would have to include our first. But we’re also going to be picking mid round and statistically that would be a gamble I am willing to take.

It’s that third piece that can be a little scary. It would definitely have to be a Vilardi or a Turcotte type player. I have higher hopes than most on this board for both those players but at the same time I am seeing them both top out as very solid second line players. That is something that can easily be acquired in free agency if we must. Both those players it seems the organization is trying to move to wing due to our center depth.


As long as Clarke, Kaliyev, and Byfield are not included in the deal I am more than happy to let a few of our prospects go for a proven young defenseman.

He is good offensive defensemen with great shooting ability, but not very creative one.
He has serious questions about his knee (possible permanent damage).
He is not really good playing defense (his plus/minus rating is -27 so far).
I do not believe he should be Kings trade target.

 

[Schmooley]

He is good offensive defensemen with great shooting ability, but not very creative one.
He has serious questions about his knee (possible permanent damage).
He is not really good playing defense (his plus/minus rating is -27 so far).
I do not believe he should be Kings trade target.

His defensive numbers would be fine in LA. Durzi gets beat wide more than any dman should and it hasnt been much of a problem. Anderson even gets beat clean sometimes. Chychrun is a great player and am really curious at what package ends up landing him.