Rask is playing way better than Toivonen when he was the same age.
No matter what...Boston has a good future with these two (young) Finnish goalies...
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Rask is playing way better than Toivonen when he was the same age.
This is probably one of the better ones I've seen. My only misgivings would be Rask and Lee. Rask shows all the signs of being a good goalie, is playing excellent, but so was Hannu Toivonen, who has yet to put it together at the NHL level. Lee just seems like, not a bust, but a player who would have been better off being selected in the second round.
I haven't heard too much of Mark Fraser moving up in the draft, really looks like a steal for NJ in the 3rd round. No offense but a rock on the backend.
Thanks for the compliment. I think Rask is on par with Price, so I would tend to put him that high at #7, and really - no one behind him is a world beater. As for Lee - he's silky smooth and has loads of potential, I thinktop 15 is fair for him.
Rask is playing way better than Toivonen when he was the same age.
My top 50
1. Crosby
2. Johnson
3. Kopitar
4. Pouliot- Kids coming around in the AHL
5. Brule
6. Price
7. Ryan
8. Latendresse
9. Skille
10. Bourdon
11. Franson
12. Lashoff
13. Vlasic
14. Rask
15. Hanzal
16. Staal
17. Kindl
18. Parent
19. Oshie
20. Lee
21. Bergfors
22. Stasny
23. Zagrapan
24. Stoa
25. Mikkelson
26. Downie
27. Bourret
28. O'Marra
29. Setoguchi
30. Yandle
31. Cogliano
32. Pyatt
33. McCardle
34.Niskanen
35. Mark Fraser
36. Chorney
37. Pelech
38. Frazee
39. Sauer
40. Pokoluk
41. Mihalik
42. Pavelec
43. Russel
43. Letang
44. JD Watt
46. Finley
47. Kostitsyn
48. Mikko Lehtonen
49. Scott Jackson
50. Jason Bailey
What has Staal done, in your opinion, to make him drop 4 spots?
well in defense of my
Kostytsin pick in the 1st round, he just had 1g, 5a tonight
I didn't see that on the Bulldogs website?
was it tonight?
+ & anyways... let's get back on track here...2005 DRAFT!!
Staal is definitely better than Lashoff at this point, I dont know what he was thinking there.
The other Kostitsyn, lol.
What has Staal done, in your opinion, to make him drop 4 spots?
the previous year the caps finished tied with every other team in the league at 0-0-0
My top 50
1. Crosby
2. Johnson
3. Kopitar
4. Pouliot- Kids coming around in the AHL
5. Brule
6. Price
7. Ryan
8. Latendresse
9. Skille
10. Bourdon
11. Franson
12. Lashoff
13. Vlasic
14. Rask
15. Hanzal
16. Staal
17. Kindl
18. Parent
19. Oshie
20. Lee
21. Bergfors
22. Stasny
23. Zagrapan
24. Stoa
25. Mikkelson
26. Downie
27. Bourret
28. O'Marra
29. Setoguchi
30. Yandle
31. Cogliano
32. Pyatt
33. McCardle
34.Niskanen
35. Mark Fraser
36. Chorney
37. Pelech
38. Frazee
39. Sauer
40. Pokoluk
41. Mihalik
42. Pavelec
43. Russel
43. Letang
44. JD Watt
46. Finley
47. Kostitsyn
48. Mikko Lehtonen
49. Scott Jackson
50. Jason Bailey
This could be fun! Redo the entire 1st and 2nd Rounds of 2005.
Which players would you move UP? Which players would you move DOWN?
Thanks to "BobbyOrr4ever" for this idea
Here is the entire 1st and 2nd round:
1st round
1 Pittsburgh Sidney Crosby C
2 Anaheim Bobby Ryan R
3 Carolina Jack Johnson D
4 Minnesota Benoit Pouliot L
5 Mtl. Canadiens Carey Price G
6 Columbus Gilbert Brule C
7 Chicago Jack Skille R
8 San Jose Devin Setoguchi R
9 Ottawa Brian Lee D
10 Vancouver Luc Bourdon D
11 Los Angeles Anze Kopitar C
12 NY Rangers Marc Staal D
13 Buffalo Marek Zagrapan C
14 Washington Sasha Pokulok D
15 NY Islanders Ryan O'Marra C
16 Atlanta Alex Bourret R
17 Phoenix Martin Hanzal C
18 Nashville Ryan Parent D
19 Detroit Jakub Kindl D
20 Florida Kendall McArdle L
21 Toronto Tuukka Rask G
22 Boston Matt Lashoff D
23 New Jersey Nicklas Bergfors W
24 St. Louis T.J. Oshie C
25 Edmonton Andrew Cogliano C
26 Calgary Matt Pelech D
27 Washington Joe Finley D
28 Dallas Matt Niskanen D
29 Philadelphia Steve Downie R
Well for sure guys like Latendresse, Stastny, Vlasic and Letang could be easily be first rounders(Letang early second). Brendan Mikkelson and ONdrej PAvelec also both have improved a lot and wouldn't have been surprise first rounders now. I think someone would almost have to take Kopitar second overall now. Parent and Hanzal could also be more suited to the top 10 over "maybe" Lee and Setoguchi.
How is Kottitsyn not better than Segotuchi?You just made this thread even more interesting!!
And...you just may have a strong point there.
I'm probably being waaaaay too nice with HAB prospects.
I'll move Kostitsyn to the 2nd Round (from 7th round to 2nd round). But, I believe that a team would now choose him in the 1st Round...I could be wrong, of course! (at worst...in the 2nd round).
I can move Latendresse towards 9th or 10th? I really believe that Latendresse will just get better and better (& I swear I was a major doubter when he was on the 4th line with Begin and Murray...it just didn't work...he has to be on the 1st or 2nd line). Why so high on LAtendresse? he's consistently playing on the 2nd or 1st line in the NHL (now), and he's improving and impressing at the same time (I'm now a believer...more now then when he was on the 4th line).
Price is a potential franchise goalie. If he turns out even close to that then it was worth it. IMO, the goalie is the most important position...(ex: Luongo 4th overall...M-A Fleury 1st overall...Lehtonen 1st overall? or Lehtonen was definitely top 3 overall...).
Downie impressed me in the WJC...I think (in the NHL) he'll be a solid 3rd liner (maybe even a solid 2nd liner). He should bring energy and solid two-way defense to the NHL + his agitating ways...
At first he (Downie) reminded me of Jordin Tootoo (both are approx. 5'10, 195 lbs, righthanded, agitators...). Downie should be better, more offensive upside (IMO). The worst that can happen...Downie will be one of the best 4th liners in the NHL!!
Right now (maybe) I should put Downie at #19 'cause I'd probably take Downie over Setoguchi!, but I'm not a professional scout...I could be absolutely wrong here but I'd still take at least 15 players or more ahead of Downie (Crosby, Kopitar, Staal, J Johnson, Price, Pouliot, Brule, Latendresse, Skille, Bourdon, Rask, Ryan, Vlasic, Stastny, Oshie...MAYBE even Cogliano over Downie 'cause of the offensive/speed upside). Just my opinion (one Hab fan here!...one!!).These are just my opinions, nothing is a fact. Not everyone will be happy with this list (below)...feel free to RE-DO it & put Downie in top 5 or top 10 (I won't feel offended!).
Cheers
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