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RD Simon Nemec (2022, 2nd, NJD)

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Dirtyf1ghter said:
There was also zero chance Chara, Lidstrom and Zubov would reach the level they did if you took the picture at U21.

Beyond that, I was talking about Nemec as a solid all-around top 4.

The guy is an NHL rookie. Against Winnipeg, even at -3, there were very encouraging signs in his defensive commitment.
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Where were Chara, Lidstrom, and Zubov drafted? That’s the difference. D can bust from the top of the draft while turning into something great from a later pick. Nemec is a 2OA pick. He’s trending towards a bust considering where he was selected.
 
Junohockeyfan said:
He’s not a rookie anymore…

There was nothing encouraging about Nemec’s play last night!
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Yeah sophomore if you want... 76 games is less than a season played.

The player made a lot of defensive efforts. Compared to his initial profile, it's nice because he didn't commit as much before. Easy to say he was bad because -3. Dillon and Meier were also at -3. So they're bad ?

I see beyond March 8, 2025. I see a guy who has the profile to be a complete top 4 defender at his peak.
 
Junohockeyfan said:
Nemec is not an NHL player and i don't think he will ever become one. He has no on-ice awareness, zero hockey IQ, is soft and is lazy.

I don't know what the NJD were thinking drafting him 2OA. At the time of the draft, Shane Wright was the obvious pick.
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While I think they should've drafted Logan Cooley and not Wright, I had to laugh because I wrote almost exactly the same things about Alexander Holtz a few years back. Quite a few people in this forum laughed at me. So far, Holtz has not proved me wrong. Quite the contrary.

As for Nemec, the biggest problem I see with Nemec is his brain. I think he believes he is an awesome player, because in Slovakia he probably was the greatest young defenseman ever and everybody told him so. An he seems to still think that he is. That needs to change first and foremost. He makes demands and doesn't back it up. That is not how successful pros act at all.
 
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Dirtyf1ghter said:
Yeah sophomore if you want... 76 games is less than a season played.

The player made a lot of defensive efforts. Compared to his initial profile, it's nice because he didn't commit as much before. Easy to say he was bad because -3. Dillon and Meier were also at -3. So they're bad ?

I see beyond March 8, 2025. I see a guy who has the profile to be a complete top 4 defender at his peak.
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What are you talking about? Nemec was the worst player on the ice. You don't see stats as abysmal as what his hockeystatcard shows from last night. This is near historic in terms of woefulnes.

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Fatass said:
Where were Chara, Lidstrom, and Zubov drafted? That’s the difference. D can bust from the top of the draft while turning into something great from a later pick. Nemec is a 2OA pick. He’s trending towards a bust considering where he was selected.
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You could make this observation about Levshunov, Jiricek, Korchinski... Brandt Clarke wasn't crazy last year. Broberg at U21...

Seriously, if you take the picture now, it's ridiculous. And how many players have had illusions at 20 with the adrenaline rush and have fallen back? A lot too.
 
NJ07102 said:
While I think they should've drafted Logan Cooley and not Wright, I had to laugh because I wrote almost exactly the same things about Alexander Holtz a few years back. Quite a few people in this forum laughed at me. So far, Holtz has not proved me wrong. Quite the contrary.

As for Nemec, the biggest problem I see with Nemec is his brain. I think he believes he is an awesome player, because in Slovakia he probably was the greatest young defenseman ever and everybody told him so. An he seems to still think that he is. That needs to change first and foremost. He makes demands and doesn't back it up. That is not how successful pros act at all.
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I agree with you. Regarding Cooley vs Wright, i think the concensus at the time of the draft was Wright over Cooley by a margin. It was really Wright vs Slaf with the oddsmakers picking Wright.

As for Nemec, his brain is the issue. I wonder if the Kovacevic signing impacted him last night because that was way over the top level of cluelessness in his play. He seems entitled and sending a message to the NJD brass.
 
NJ07102 said:
While I think they should've drafted Logan Cooley and not Wright, I had to laugh because I wrote almost exactly the same things about Alexander Holtz a few years back. Quite a few people in this forum laughed at me. So far, Holtz has not proved me wrong. Quite the contrary.

As for Nemec, the biggest problem I see with Nemec is his brain. I think he believes he is an awesome player, because in Slovakia he probably was the greatest young defenseman ever and everybody told him so. An he seems to still think that he is. That needs to change first and foremost. He makes demands and doesn't back it up. That is not how successful pros act at all.
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Yep I absolutely agree with you on this. It seems like Columbus had the same issue a year ago with Jiricek and even after he was traded he’s still struggling.

It’s not a organisation problem. It’s a player problem ans it usually starts with having too big of an ego and never end well because these players don’t think they have room to grow, that they’re at this “level” already
 
Dirtyf1ghter said:
Nemec is a more committed defensive player. And since his offensive potential is also very good, he is above Mateychuk for me.

Casey has shown offensive things in the NHL while Mateychuk has not shown much yet. Bichsel is a defensive monster.

Mateychuk, I see him as a poor man's offensive defenseman in the NHL. Usually, he only comes out with one really effective one per year and I think Hutson showed the huge difference.

While Nemec I still see him as a top 4 all-around defenseman.
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Nemec might be the least defensively committed prospect in the league.
 
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Faterson said:
PLD says hi.
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PLD as in Dubois now with Washington? He’s a forward. There might be another top two D pick as bad as Nemec but it’s not coming to mind. Barker was 3OA; he was bad. But almost always the D picked top two are good.,Nemec is the outlier.
 
Junohockeyfan said:
He was directly responsible for 3 goals against in a 6 minute span. The first was a gaffe. The other 2 was more par for the course. He lacks awareness - completely lost.

Nemec right now is ECHL level. Why the Devils are playing him above Casey is beyond me…
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They just extended Kov. So now right side for the next 3 seasons has Hamilton, Pesce, Kov signed.

Going to make a move a some point in the off season most likely.
 
Sheldon keefes words after last night . He played fine for 40 mins and was a disaster for 20 mins .

"It’s really hard, yeah. That's what happens when you have injuries, you've got to put guys in situations but he's a better player than that. That player that played in the third period is in the wrong league, the player that played before that, throughout our road trip can help us. We've got to find some consistency. It's hard, this is not the league where you work through your growing pains on a team that has any sort of expectations. Players that aren't quite ready to contribute to teams that have expectations, they play in the minors. We need more from everyone. Nemo is a confident guy that thinks he can help our team play in this league, he'll have lots of opportunity to show us right now but that wasn't it in the third and you can't reward that effort."
 
Fatass said:
Cam Barker was 3OA who was a D selection that was bad. Is there another top 3 D pick as bad as Nemec is looking?
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well Miro was the last Dman picked at 3rd then there was

Erik Gudbranson in 2010
Zach Bogosian in 2008
Jack Johnson 2005


Nemec is still a really good prospect he just had probably his worst pro game last night.

People need to relax a bit and I'm not even a fan of the pick.
 
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wetcoast said:
well Miro was the last Dman picked at 3rd then there was

Erik Gudbranson in 2010
Zach Bogosian in 2008
Jack Johnson 2005


Nemec is still a really good prospect he just had probably his worst pro game last night.

People need to relax a bit and I'm not even a fan of the pick.
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There’s a strong reason why a D picked top 2 is almost always a slam dunk special player. D are harder to predict (at 18) than forwards. Nemec is pretty much on an island of his own for not living up to his top two pick as a D.
 
That guy has to be leading in controller disconnected/60. His brainfarts remind me of Logan Mailloux's NHL minutes not in a good way.
 
Its been an attitude/mental issue all season long.

He looked like a top pick his first 2 years but everything fell apart this year. He was even bad in the AHL, just sulked and did nothing.
 
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