RD David Jiricek (2022, 6th, CBJ; traded to MIN)

[JiricekSaveUs]

Brodin injury means we need another defenseman. I’d imagine he gets some games because they want him playing. Depends how long Brodin is out. I think k they’ll shelter him and let him run the 2nd powerplay.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Do we think Jiricek is more likely to turn it around and take off to become the next Pietrangelo, or will he be the next Bogosian, who eats minutes and is fine, but not a great top 4 D in his prime?

 

[martygod12]

Šílené, nesouhlasím! Rulík o trejdu Jiříčka, Kubalíkovi a evropském jádru | Hokej.cz - web českého hokeje

S chumlem novinářů protřepal plejádu (nejen) aktuálních témat. Nominace na Švýcarské hry, konkrétní jména, ale i situace v NHL... Nejvíc se Radim Rulík rozohnil při otázce na trejd Davida Jiříčka do Minnesoty. Co dalšího trenér národního týmu okomentoval?

www.hokej.cz

Interesting interview with Czech NT coach Rulik. He talks about many other things, but one of them is about Jiricek trade to Minnesota. He says that its crazy and completely dont understand why Minnesota brought him and that he should have gone to different club eg. like Edmonton. And that they dont know in Minnesota what value they have in D.Spacek.

I must say I agree with him, for Jiricek this is maybe a better oppurtunity to play NHL, but Spacek is completely baked in AHL with this move. Guy who is looking better and better every year, and showed at last year WCH that he is ready to play on highest level. I always thought he is the first in line to get a call up. Now with Jiricek in, he will probably be stuck forever in AHL. Kinda sucks, so I at least hope Jiricek can grab most out of this chance and we will see at least one new full time czech D in NHL.

 

[SoundAndFury]

Minnie has Bogosian who was used to the 7D role and 35-year-old Spurgeon on the right. I think having 2 21-year-old prospects works just fine in their situation.

 

[57special]

Šílené, nesouhlasím! Rulík o trejdu Jiříčka, Kubalíkovi a evropském jádru | Hokej.cz - web českého hokeje

S chumlem novinářů protřepal plejádu (nejen) aktuálních témat. Nominace na Švýcarské hry, konkrétní jména, ale i situace v NHL... Nejvíc se Radim Rulík rozohnil při otázce na trejd Davida Jiříčka do Minnesoty. Co dalšího trenér národního týmu okomentoval?

www.hokej.cz

Interesting interview with Czech NT coach Rulik. He talks about many other things, but one of them is about Jiricek trade to Minnesota. He says that its crazy and completely dont understand why Minnesota brought him and that he should have gone to different club eg. like Edmonton. And that they dont know in Minnesota what value they have in D.Spacek.

I must say I agree with him, for Jiricek this is maybe a better oppurtunity to play NHL, but Spacek is completely baked in AHL with this move. Guy who is looking better and better every year, and showed at last year WCH that he is ready to play on highest level. I always thought he is the first in line to get a call up. Now with Jiricek in, he will probably be stuck forever in AHL. Kinda sucks, so I at least hope Jiricek can grab most out of this chance and we will see at least one new full time czech D in NHL.

Have you watched a lot of Iowa games? Has Rulik? If so , then you and he could hardly have missed the defensive mistakes Spacek has made in Des Moines, and the horrible defensive play in general by that team. He has some talent, but he was by no means the best D down there. That was Hunt. To think that the CZE NT coach and you have a better idea of how fit Spacek is to be an NHL'er right now than the entire Wild development and scouting staff is....certainly a take. If he wasn't a Czech you would have no idea who he was, and wouldn't care.

Spacek was a 5th rounder for a reason. There are some players, like Jared Spurgeon, who way outplay their draft spot, but so far, Spacek is not one of them. I suppose you think Svozil should be playing in the top 4 in CBJ, too.

 

[Goodman68]

In fact, I find it quite strange that someone who cannot possibly have the same insight into the player as the people at the club would comment on something like that. Rulík no doubt understands hockey, but in this case I don't understand why he even expressed himself.

 

[Czechboy]

Translate works very well on this so I recommend the read despite it being in Czech.

My first thought was also 'what about Spacek'. I do think we all agreed we didn't expect him to be full time this year but a lot of us Czechs do think he will be an NHLer.

Neat fact, I think, Rulik is a 2 time World Champion head coach! 2005 as an assistant (best on best) and 2024 as the head coach (not a best on best but the tourney was stacked).

 

[martygod12]

Have you watched a lot of Iowa games? Has Rulik? If so , then you and he could hardly have missed the defensive mistakes Spacek has made in Des Moines, and the horrible defensive play in general by that team. He has some talent, but he was by no means the best D down there. That was Hunt. To think that the CZE NT coach and you have a better idea of how fit Spacek is to be an NHL'er right now than the entire Wild development and scouting staff is....certainly a take. If he wasn't a Czech you would have no idea who he was, and wouldn't care.

Spacek was a 5th rounder for a reason. There are some players, like Jared Spurgeon, who way outplay their draft spot, but so far, Spacek is not one of them. I suppose you think Svozil should be playing in the top 4 in CBJ, too.

Spacek has silver from WJC where he standed out, gold from mens Worlds where he played really good, right now he is Iowa most important and most productive D. All that in the age of 21. I saw him in National team last year and yeah even there he made mistakes, but he is young and playing agressive and is not afraid to risk, still there were much more positives then negatives in his game. But yeah I guess he sucks, because he is not Canadian and some Hunt is better, eventhough he is older and hasnt standed out in any competition yet nor has any acomplishment to back him up.

Its just funny how you fanboys are so biased towards Canadian and US players.

And in fact yes, I think both Svozil and Spacek should play NHL full time. Not saying this year, but in 2-3 years definitely yes.

 

[martygod12]

In fact, I find it quite strange that someone who cannot possibly have the same insight into the player as the people at the club would comment on something like that. Rulík no doubt understands hockey, but in this case I don't understand why he even expressed himself.

I dont know whats so strange about it, he worked with both guys at U20 and then senior national team level so he knows them very well, and as you said he understands hockey no doubt, so he probably can analyze how useful can a player be for a team, eventhough he is not personally coaching that team.

Its his opinion, he may be dead wrong, he may be right, future will tell. But I agree with him to the extend, that I hoped Jiricek would go to a different club. I am also not exactly thrilled Spacek got more competition in Minnesota. Would be much happier if Jiricek steal the place of some foreign country prospect in different team,

 

[Czechboy]

I dont know whats so strange about it, he worked with both guys at U20 and then senior national team level so he knows them very well

He's also worked with his Dad a lot. I'd say he has an intimate knowledge of the player.lol

I think the fact a Czech coach dare make a comment on North America is the issue here. I had no idea Rulik wasn't allowed to give his opinion on players? Completely uncredited posters (like you and I) can trash prospects but World Champion coaches need to shut the f*** up.lol Curious what the comments would be if Spittin Chicklets made a similar comment.lol

Prospects on HF are a funny thing.. all I read about is how bad Jiricek and Spacek are. Even a Svozil dig today. Guess we'll see but they have all looked excellent amongst their peers/age group.

'just a 5th rounder'....

That was a huge part of a silver run at the U20 (under Rulik)
was a huge part of a gold run at the seniors (under Rulik)
leads his AHL team in D scoring at 21

I'm curious what other 5th rounders have that kind of resume in their D + 2 seasons? I'm sure there is a Sweden/US/Canadian that does... but he seems to be boxing above his draft ranking quite well.

Meanwhile, Jiricek is a top 6 pick and he's getting shit on too. 'Can't skate', 'too weak', 'hasn't done anything' is my fav since all his comparables are in the AHL too. Mintyukov is the only guy currently out performing him from his draft year I believe. Hutson could be argued as well. 2 players on teams very deep into a rebuild right now. Korchinski and Nemec in AHL.

Our Czech D propsects get no love at all.haha

 

[JiricekSaveUs]

Šílené, nesouhlasím! Rulík o trejdu Jiříčka, Kubalíkovi a evropském jádru | Hokej.cz - web českého hokeje

S chumlem novinářů protřepal plejádu (nejen) aktuálních témat. Nominace na Švýcarské hry, konkrétní jména, ale i situace v NHL... Nejvíc se Radim Rulík rozohnil při otázce na trejd Davida Jiříčka do Minnesoty. Co dalšího trenér národního týmu okomentoval?

www.hokej.cz

Interesting interview with Czech NT coach Rulik. He talks about many other things, but one of them is about Jiricek trade to Minnesota. He says that its crazy and completely dont understand why Minnesota brought him and that he should have gone to different club eg. like Edmonton. And that they dont know in Minnesota what value they have in D.Spacek.

I must say I agree with him, for Jiricek this is maybe a better oppurtunity to play NHL, but Spacek is completely baked in AHL with this move. Guy who is looking better and better every year, and showed at last year WCH that he is ready to play on highest level. I always thought he is the first in line to get a call up. Now with Jiricek in, he will probably be stuck forever in AHL. Kinda sucks, so I at least hope Jiricek can grab most out of this chance and we will see at least one new full time czech D in NHL.

I know people in Czechia think Spacek is an underrated prospect that has a long career as a top 4 NHL defenseman ahead of him. But the people that actually watch him on a nightly basis know he’s a long way from real NHL minutes.

 

[Czechboy]

underrated prospect that has a long career as a top 4 NHL defenseman ahead of him

Please quote a Czech poster that has ever said this? Spacek thread is near the top of the Prospects now as I wrote in it ten minutes ago.lol

 

[Hockeyville USA]

He's also worked with his Dad a lot. I'd say he has an intimate knowledge of the player.lol

I think the fact a Czech coach dare make a comment on North America is the issue here. I had no idea Rulik wasn't allowed to give his opinion on players? Completely uncredited posters (like you and I) can trash prospects but World Champion coaches need to shut the f*** up.lol Curious what the comments would be if Spittin Chicklets made a similar comment.lol

Prospects on HF are a funny thing.. all I read about is how bad Jiricek and Spacek are. Even a Svozil dig today. Guess we'll see but they have all looked excellent amongst their peers/age group.

'just a 5th rounder'....

That was a huge part of a silver run at the U20 (under Rulik)
was a huge part of a gold run at the seniors (under Rulik)
leads his AHL team in D scoring at 21

I'm curious what other 5th rounders have that kind of resume in their D + 2 seasons? I'm sure there is a Sweden/US/Canadian that does... but he seems to be boxing above his draft ranking quite well.

Meanwhile, Jiricek is a top 6 pick and he's getting shit on too. 'Can't skate', 'too weak', 'hasn't done anything' is my fav since all his comparables are in the AHL too. Mintyukov is the only guy currently out performing him from his draft year I believe. Hutson could be argued as well. 2 players on teams very deep into a rebuild right now. Korchinski and Nemec in AHL.

Our Czech D propsects get no love at all.haha

Hutson and Casey are better than Jiricek currently IMHO

 

[Czechboy]

Hutson and Casey are better than Jiricek currently IMHO

I'd say Hutson is winning today but I'd also point out his 175 cm frame and minus 16 on one of the worst D cores in the NHL. I think Jiricek comfortably beats him in the end. He may never catch Mintyukov though. He may be the big prize out of that draft.

Casey I can't give you. Smaller, later pick, doesn't have the AHL success of Jiricek... yet. Also, good luck cracking NJ. Nemec isn't even on the roster.

2 smallish, non fist round US picks that can move the puck! I think you have a smilar bias to me but for a different country!

Of course, US have considerably better dman than the Czechs today so you may be right on both accounts. We need a few guys to stick. Time will tell.

 

[Goodman68]

I dont know whats so strange about it, he worked with both guys at U20 and then senior national team level so he knows them very well, and as you said he understands hockey no doubt, so he probably can analyze how useful can a player be for a team, eventhough he is not personally coaching that team.

Its his opinion, he may be dead wrong, he may be right, future will tell. But I agree with him to the extend, that I hoped Jiricek would go to a different club. I am also not exactly thrilled Spacek got more competition in Minnesota. Would be much happier if Jiricek steal the place of some foreign country prospect in different team,

That cannot be ruled out. Špaček and Jiříček may be talented, and Rulík certainly understands hockey, but that does not mean that he has more insight into players overseas than people who are in daily contact with those players.

 

[57special]

Spacek has silver from WJC where he standed out, gold from mens Worlds where he played really good, right now he is Iowa most important and most productive D. All that in the age of 21. I saw him in National team last year and yeah even there he made mistakes, but he is young and playing agressive and is not afraid to risk, still there were much more positives then negatives in his game. But yeah I guess he sucks, because he is not Canadian and some Hunt is better, eventhough he is older and hasnt standed out in any competition yet nor has any acomplishment to back him up.

Its just funny how you fanboys are so biased towards Canadian and US players.

And in fact yes, I think both Svozil and Spacek should play NHL full time. Not saying this year, but in 2-3 years definitely yes.

 

[JiricekSaveUs]

Please quote a Czech poster that has ever said this? Spacek thread is near the top of the Prospects now as I wrote in it ten minutes ago.lol

That’s an impressive find

Hutson and Casey are better than Jiricek currently IMHO

If I’m following your logic correctly, then they have to be better than Nemec too?

 

[Czechboy]

That cannot be ruled out. Špaček and Jiříček may be talented, and Rulík certainly understands hockey, but that does not mean that he has more insight into players overseas than people who are in daily contact with those players.

Who said he had more insight?

The man stated his opinion. From Europe. On something he has no power over.

You, marty, me and about a 1000 others state out opinions everyday on HF.

 

[Czechboy]

That’s an impressive find

Needed a google search to find him.lol He went from King of Prague to Iowa.haha

 

[Hockeyville USA]

That’s an impressive find


If I’m following your logic correctly, then they have to be better than Nemec too?

Yes, Nemec has disappointed relative to expectations.

 

[martygod12]

That cannot be ruled out. Špaček and Jiříček may be talented, and Rulík certainly understands hockey, but that does not mean that he has more insight into players overseas than people who are in daily contact with those players.

Yes thats of course true, but I just dont understand why it should be mocked as some crazy person out of place take on the subject. As some US fanboys promptly arrived here to poke out.

 

[Goodman68]

Who said he had more insight?

Because they are in daily contact with that player? Rulík doesn't see how those players play every day, I don't even believe that he would even watch all the matches played by those players in the AHL (and even if he did watch them, he will logically have a deficit against the people from the club).
Yes, I am expressing my opinion too. And I'm surprised that Rulík really said this.

 

[martygod12]

I know people in Czechia think Spacek is an underrated prospect that has a long career as a top 4 NHL defenseman ahead of him. But the people that actually watch him on a nightly basis know he’s a long way from real NHL minutes.

I dont think thats true, no one really said he is gonna be an NHL star and having 50+ points per sesaon, playing top 4 D role till he is 38.

Most of us said we see him as a player with potential to be a NHL regular in a few years, and I stand by that,

Definitely will not agree with opinion that some Daemon Hunt who seems completely mid is better then him. By comparing Spacek and Hunt careers so far, Spacek is literally miles ahead of him.

 

[Goodman68]

Yes thats of course true, but I just dont understand why it should be mocked as some crazy person out of place take on the subject. As some US fanboys promptly arrived here to poke out.

Something must be lost in translation here.
I think I wrote my opinion which I supported logically. I am certainly not mocking anyone, nor denying the right to an opinion.

 

[Czechboy]

Because they are in daily contact with that player? Rulík doesn't see how those players play every day, I don't even believe that he would even watch all the matches played by those players in the AHL (and even if he did watch them, he will logically have a deficit against the people from the club).
Yes, I am expressing my opinion too. And I'm surprised that Rulík really said this.

Apologies... translator got it wrong

Who says Rulik has more insight?

As far as I can tell, a hockey lover (rulik) made an opinion about hockey. He is allowed an opinion just like you and I are on HF.

It'd be no different than if Jagr made a comment about a Czech in the NHL or Gretzky (assuming he's not affiliated to an NHL club today) made a comment about a Canadian player not making his NHL squad.