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RD Artyom Levshunov (2024, 2nd, CHI)

I watched many games this season. i don't fixate on just one game. I mean who does that? ;)

Where do you think Nazar with finish in Calder voting? 11th? 12th?
Probably not high, since he was only up for half the season. Doesn’t change the fact that for the last 15 games or so he was awesome. Just weird to downplay him after he played so well against your team less than a week ago.
 
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I watched many games this season. i don't fixate on just one game. I mean who does that? ;)

Where do you think Nazar with finish in Calder voting? 11th? 12th?
He joined midway through the season and only got 53 games in, so not sure Calder discussion is the best way to judge him as a player.
 
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Manhandled? LOL Demidov manhandled the entire Hawks team.

I realize the Hawks win over the Habs was your stanley cup moment. Its players like Hutson that get your into the big show. Its players like Nazar that will be likely be keeping you from the playoffs. Time will tell. Not impressed.

And BTW, that's Mr. Lane Hutson - Calder Champion. Show some respect!
Wow we got off topic
 
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Blackhawks fans need to properly Thank HAB's for NAZAR and HAYES . i hope Hab's dont mind hiring another team Doctor just for Kirby .

Thank yourselves.

Back in the day Chicago traded Phil danault and a 2nd for dale weise and Tomas fleischmann. Chicago turned their two players into a first round exit and both guys left in UFA, Montreal turned Danault into a top 6 centre and the pick into Alexander Romanov. Romanov was then traded to NYI for the the pick that we then sent to Chicago for Dach.

So, Montreal got to turn 2 bottom 6 pending UFAs into a top 6 centre for our cup finals run and a project centre in Dach. And, Chicago got to turn a former first in danault, a former top 3 pick in dach, and a second into a mid first and a third. Sounds like everyone is happy.
 
Thank yourselves.

Back in the day Chicago traded Phil danault and a 2nd for dale weise and Tomas fleischmann. Chicago turned their two players into a first round exit and both guys left in UFA, Montreal turned Danault into a top 6 centre and the pick into Alexander Romanov. Romanov was then traded to NYI for the the pick that we then sent to Chicago for Dach.

So, Montreal got to turn 2 bottom 6 pending UFAs into a top 6 centre for our cup finals run and a project centre in Dach. And, Chicago got to turn a former first in danault, a former top 3 pick in dach, and a second into a mid first and a third. Sounds like everyone is happy.
Well those were the Years when we were winning Cup so , while its sucks losing Phillip it was a gamble . Teams always lose trades when they are going for the Cup . Hard for Hab's fans to remember going for Cups !!! Go back farther Chelios for Savard ,Sorry back to future Norris Trophy Winner LEVSHUNOV !!!!!!
 
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Well those were the Years when we were winning Cup so , while its sucks losing Phillip it was a gamble . Teams always lose trades when they are going for the Cup . Hard for Hab's fans to remember going for Cups !!!

Habs went to the finals 4 years ago, i think that's pretty easy to remember. Maybe the Hawks cups feel more recent to you because of all the ongoing litigation from their cup years? Nothing like the sexual assault of prospects, an intern, and even a child to keep things fresh, I guess.
 
Habs went to the finals 4 years ago, i think that's pretty easy to remember. Maybe the Hawks cups feel more recent to you because of all the ongoing litigation from their cup years? Nothing like the sexual assault of prospects, an intern, and even a child to keep things fresh, I guess.
ARTIE PARTY !!!!! & RINZEL 2 RD fighting for the Norris for many years
 
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I liked this player a lot since before the draft, and knew there was a chance CHI would take him.

It seems like people on here just do not grasp the premium GMs and scouts put on these high/elite upside RHD prospects.

This is overall the most sought after type of prospect in hockey because an elite RHD is the hardest asset to acquire in this league.

Certain fans may not like it, but when there is the chance to draft one, your GM is likely going to take it over pretty much anything else, short of a franchise or generational C prospect, even if the RHD’s upside is a risk to pan out. It will continue to happen.

Levshunov has franchise D potential. He may or may not reach that potential, but clearly the Hawks thought it was worth the gamble, as many teams would have in the same situation.

The Hawks clearly valued Demidov as well - the rumors that they put together a serious package to try to get CBJ’s pick to take him are well known, but they wanted to lock up the elite upside RHD first and foremost.

I think two factors that may have tipped the scales in their decision is:

1. Already having an elite forward in the system in Bedard.

2. Demidov playing his draft year in the MHL - it’s harder to get a read on players in that league.

If not for these two factors, the situation might’ve been reversed where they went with Demidov and tried to trade into 3rd, 4th, or 5th for Levshunov.

With hindsight, I think they likely wish they had taken Demidov, considering they year he just had in the KHL, but playing the hindsight game is dumb, and I doubt they regret their decision - it was completely fair at the time, and if Levshunov does become that elite #1 RHD, nobody is going to care too much about what ifs here anyways.

CHI will likely get several more high picks and they knew that, so can afford to take these kinds of gambles.
 
It's so strange how Montreal fans obsess about the Blackhawks taking Levshunov when 2 teams after our pick passed on Demidov .
 
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It's so strange how Montreal fans obsess about the Blackhawks taking Levshunov when 2 teams after our pick passed on Demidov .
Yeah not really sure. I guess because rumors were hawks liked Levshunov and Demidov. Ducks liked Levshunov and Buium and then ended up with a different winger out of left field and the Jackets liked Lindstrom.

Ducks taking a different winger is the one that I think is the most direct one to one that will be easy to compare. Not sure what their deal was with why they didn’t seem to like Demidov.
 
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Yeah not really sure. I guess because rumors were hawks liked Levshunov and Demidov. Ducks liked Levshunov and Buium and then ended up with a different winger out of left field and the Jackets liked Lindstrom.

Ducks taking a different winger is the one that I think is the most direct one to one that will be easy to compare. Not sure what their deal was with why they didn’t seem to like Demidov.
I wanted Demidov but after watching Levshunov and considering all the league's he's jumped and the fact D is the most difficult position to play I'm very happy with the pick . If Blackhawks win the lottery they have many options with D already set . Future Goalies set and forwards very close considering all the depth .
 
Yeah not really sure. I guess because rumors were hawks liked Levshunov and Demidov. Ducks liked Levshunov and Buium and then ended up with a different winger out of left field and the Jackets liked Lindstrom.

Ducks taking a different winger is the one that I think is the most direct one to one that will be easy to compare. Not sure what their deal was with why they didn’t seem to like Demidov.
The last Russian forwards taken by the Ducks in the 2nd round or higher:

•Stanislav Chistov, 5th overall, 2001
•Alexei Smirnov, 12th overall, 2000
•Vitaly Vishnevsky, 5th overall, 1998
•Maxim Balmochnykh, 2nd round, 1997

All busts lmao. They swore off taking Russian forwards high forever after this 😂
 
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Thank yourselves.

Back in the day Chicago traded Phil danault and a 2nd for dale weise and Tomas fleischmann. Chicago turned their two players into a first round exit and both guys left in UFA, Montreal turned Danault into a top 6 centre and the pick into Alexander Romanov. Romanov was then traded to NYI for the the pick that we then sent to Chicago for Dach.

So, Montreal got to turn 2 bottom 6 pending UFAs into a top 6 centre for our cup finals run and a project centre in Dach. And, Chicago got to turn a former first in danault, a former top 3 pick in dach, and a second into a mid first and a third. Sounds like everyone is happy.
Montreal sending players to try and win a cup elsewhere has been their version of contending the last 30 years
 
David Reinbacher lol. Honestly forgot about him. I think he still has an outside chance at being a nice second pairing D. ( maybe)

Anyway, back on topic. I’m stoked for year two of Levshunov. Think between him and Rinzel the hawks are set on the right side for years.

I was surprised by how good Lev was defensively. He was really strong breaking up rush chances.
 
He sure made Monkey's out of your Incredible Team . Oh speaking of Tiny , hardly wait to see the Hutson 's permanent ad on your boards when Tom Thumb gets smashed like an ant .

I said it in the game thread the other night, Hutson will struggle big time defensively in the playoffs. He was atrocious all year if you look at the analytics.

Playoff hockey is a different animal and I’m not sure how he’ll fare.

He’s unquestionably a talented offensive D, full stop. But Nazar absolutely abused him with speed several times.
 
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David Reinbacher lol. Honestly forgot about him. I think he still has an outside chance at being a nice second pairing D. ( maybe)

Anyway, back on topic. I’m stoked for year two of Levshunov. Think between him and Rinzel the hawks are set on the right side for years.

I was surprised by how good Lev was defensively. He was really strong breaking up rush chances.
Reinbacher has been injured a lot. When healthy, he’s looked great in the AHL. He’ll be a top pairing D . . . eventually.
 
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Reinbacher has been injured a lot. When healthy, he’s looked great in the AHL. He’ll be a top pairing D . . . eventually.

I like him, but I just never saw that ceiling.

We’ll see. If he becomes a good 3/4 RHD that’s not the worst thing in the world.

Projecting defenseman is so difficult. ( usually)
 
I like him, but I just never saw that ceiling.

We’ll see. If he becomes a good 3/4 RHD that’s not the worst thing in the world.

Projecting defenseman is so difficult. ( usually)
I see a Noah Dobson type player eventually, as a comparable.
 
Habs went to the finals 4 years ago, i think that's pretty easy to remember. Maybe the Hawks cups feel more recent to you because of all the ongoing litigation from their cup years? Nothing like the sexual assault of prospects, an intern, and even a child to keep things fresh, I guess.
Considering how one sided that series was I would like to think most fans would be more embarrassed of that series if anything. Habs got absolutely bodied and didn’t belong there. Everyone from neutral fans to even Tampa fans were feeling bad for yall over how outmatched the Habs were.

The true miracle was that it wasn’t a sweep but considering Montreal was shutout in game 5 and didn’t even bother showing up it may as well have been a sweep
 
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Considering how one sided that series was I would like to think most fans would be more embarrassed of that series if anything. Habs got absolutely bodied and didn’t belong there. Everyone from neutral fans to even Tampa fans were feeling bad for yall over how outmatched the Habs were.

The true miracle was that it wasn’t a sweep but considering Montreal was shutout in game 5 and didn’t even bother showing up it may as well have been a sweep
It wasn’t at all as one sided as you’re claiming. All TB’s stars got pretty much shut down outside of a big game 1 - check the box scores. It was their depth players that came through, and that was the real difference in the series - MTL just could not match their depth.

Considering MTL wouldn’t have even made the playoffs in a regular year, if anyone should feel embarrassed it should be TB, but they won the Cup, so nobody remembers or thinks about this stuff.
 
Considering how one sided that series was I would like to think most fans would be more embarrassed of that series if anything. Habs got absolutely bodied and didn’t belong there. Everyone from neutral fans to even Tampa fans were feeling bad for yall over how outmatched the Habs were.

The true miracle was that it wasn’t a sweep but considering Montreal was shutout in game 5 and didn’t even bother showing up it may as well have been a sweep

It's okay pumpkin. I know you thought your pathetic team was going to take a step this season, then they extremely didn't and Montreal did. So, now you pretend that losing in the cup final is embarrassing to keep from the reality of cheering for a 61 point team where all the players look miserable.

I'd rather my team win 3 rounds and look outmatched in the finals than play an entire 82 game season looking outmatched almost every night.
 

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