Speculation: Raymond Seider Contract Speculation

[Indrid Cold]

Adjust as needed. Maybe it's 8.7 for Seider, 7.9 for Raymond and 1.0 for Berggren. That's not even getting into the possible rabbit hole of doing some kind of deferred salary deal.
Point is they can realistically get it done with what's available.

I would be happy as a clam with those numbers.

 

[Redwing66]

Appears they have set aside an amount...the price isn't going down as time passes (the comparables aren't getting the Wings a better deal), so why do we wait, its only a game of chicken because that's the path SY and staff have chosen. My hypothesis is we could have been proactive and pushed a decent deal in the spring, but SY wants to play the tough guy negotiator role as he did with Larkin. Think this routine will get old and be another Detroit negative to future FA considerations.

 

[saska sault]

Appears they have set aside an amount...the price isn't going down as time passes (the comparables aren't getting the Wings a better deal), so why do we wait, its only a game of chicken because that's the path SY and staff have chosen. My hypothesis is we could have been proactive and pushed a decent deal in the spring, but SY wants to play the tough guy negotiator role as he did with Larkin. Think this routine will get old and be another Detroit negative to future FA considerations.

Considering Kane chose to come here twice , Tarasenko, Perron, Debrincat and Larkin all want/wanted to be here I'd say we are becoming a more desirable location and Yzerman isn't scaring off respected veterans around the league.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Considering Kane chose to come here twice , Tarasenko, Perron, Debrincat and Larkin all want/wanted to be here I'd say we are becoming a more desirable location and Yzerman isn't scaring off respected veterans around the league.

What big FA signings did SY have in TB?

And I’m also of the mind that the more you play hardball, the more likely you’re going to have difficulties getting players in the future.

 

[izlez]

What big FA signings did SY have in TB?

And I’m also of the mind that the more you play hardball, the more likely you’re going to have difficulties getting players in the future.

And to be clear, the very idea that he is playing hardball is only message board speculation.

 

[saska sault]

What big FA signings did SY have in TB?

And I’m also of the mind that the more you play hardball, the more likely you’re going to have difficulties getting players in the future.

He kept most of his stars so while I'm not familiar with his free agency periods during Tampa... he did a good job of keeping homegrown talent around which was the concern for some regarding Ray and Mo.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Do we panic yet?

I'll panic when it's G1 and they're not signed.

Honestly, from what I've seen Seider may benefit from not being coached by Newsy prior to the season starting lol.

 

[HoweFan]

I think they already have signed. Steve is just keeping the fan base talking to keep the Wings a relevant topic of discussion. Otherwise we’d be hearing more from other teams. Probably not true but whatever gets me through the day lol

 

[ShakenNotStirred]

My feel is that they are kids and enjoying the last bit of "free" time they have left until they have to go back to work. SY is a stand up guy and wants to have a formal signing in Detroit. I'm pretty sure all parties are in different countries at the moment, no?

I have no doubt deals are in place and when all of them are back in Detroit things will be anticlimactic.

 

[Redwing66]

My feel is that they are kids and enjoying the last bit of "free" time they have left until they have to go back to work. SY is a stand up guy and wants to have a formal signing in Detroit. I'm pretty sure all parties are in different countries at the moment, no?

I have no doubt deals are in place and when all of them are back in Detroit things will be anticlimactic.

They aren't coming back to Detroit until a deal is in place. If a deal was in-place it would be filed by the Wings and the league.

 

[Euro Twins]

My feel is that they are kids and enjoying the last bit of "free" time they have left until they have to go back to work. SY is a stand up guy and wants to have a formal signing in Detroit. I'm pretty sure all parties are in different countries at the moment, no?

I have no doubt deals are in place and when all of them are back in Detroit things will be anticlimactic.

Seider already said he's staying in Germany until the deal is signed.

 

[lilidk]

We are not competing for cup, I don't care when they will be signed, eventually they will, meanwhile going to be opening for others to play.

 

[ShanahanMan]

So if there’s still no contracts into camps, who ultimately holds the blame?

 

[Euro Twins]

So if there’s still no contracts into camps, who ultimately holds the blame?

I asked Google and it didn't have the answer. Going to try duckduckgo later

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

So if there’s still no contracts into camps, who ultimately holds the blame?

personally i think that you deserve the majority of the blame. if only you had put more effort into complaining about it on the internet, these contracts would have been signed months ago

 

[odin1981]

In regards to Berggren.. isn't Robertson from Toronto now a comparable ? Almost identical stats and games played , he signed for less than 1 million.

He got qualified early on with a 1 year somewhere around .925m to .965m

 

[ShanahanMan]

personally i think that you deserve the majority of the blame. if only you had put more effort into complaining about it on the internet, these contracts would have been signed months ago

Thanks, I’ll be sure to put more effort into my complaining for next time.

 

[ricky0034]

personally i think that you deserve the majority of the blame. if only you had put more effort into complaining about it on the internet, these contracts would have been signed months ago

or alternatively maybe Yzerman is reading this forum and sitting on them till the last minute out of spite for people worrying about it

which....I guess would also mean it's their fault

 

[Henkka]

So if there’s still no contracts into camps, who ultimately holds the blame?

The player agents.

 

[Ulysses31]

ofc this season important but guessing SY willing to go past start of season to get these contracts done in a way that wont hinder the team, big picture of next 10-20 yrs more important than this yr alone.

contracts also have ripple effect, look at leafs. 1 slight overpay leads to next guy asking 4 a slightly bigger overpay n it snowballs

 

[Henkka]

contracts also have ripple effect, look at leafs. 1 slight overpay leads to next guy asking 4 a slightly bigger overpay n it snowballs

This is really a thing.

But I think he already did set the bar fine with Larkin contract.

 

[dragonballgtz]

So if there’s still no contracts into camps, who ultimately holds the blame?

Yzerman. Seider and Raymond are very important to the Red Wings now and a decade from now. Especially if our other recent draft picks don't have the same impact as they had.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

Thanks, I’ll be sure to put more effort into my complaining for next time.

i appreciate your commitment

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

I'm truly stunned that these deals haven't been signed yet, especially with camp just a week or so away.

 

[AtlantaHotWings]

At what point do we gather the pitchforks and head to LCA?