Raw/SD/NXT/PPV Spoiler Thread part 7

[AfroThunder396]

Steph always has to get something in. She ALWAYS has to respond. She's always filling air, trying to get her jabs in. Just shut the **** up and let the other person deliver their lines.

You could tell there were times when Shane was getting visibly frustrated with this. He would go to say his line and she would cut him off, Daniel Bryan would say something and she would cut him off. It's not always about you.

Steph has no understanding of wrestling psychology or the mechanics of doing a promo, she thinks she's there to get herself and her brand over. She does it at the expense of other people. It's infuriating.

You can be a heel manager and generate heat - Heyman, Vickie, Zeb, Lana - but heel heat exists solely so that a future baby face can conquer it and get over. No one gets over when Steph talks. You can tell she grew up rich and entitled and has never had anyone tell her "NO" before. It always has to be about her.

 

[GKJ]

My buddy doesn't watch NXT and I've been begging him to watch some of the women's matches in NXT over the years. His reasoning for not wanting to do it is because the matches they are currently putting on are pretty bad.

Why is it that the girls in NXT have awesome WRESTLING matches and then on the big stage not just do the same thing?

They get time and better character development in NXT.

And it's not like the women have had bad matches on PPV's over the course of this year. If he's watching the PPV and still says that the women are 'pretty bad,' I'm not sure what the hell he expects.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Well it depends on the women's match and who is involved.

Almost all of SD booking is still directionless and doesn't seem to be changing until someone gets the belt.

RAW has Dana who is really limited and Sasha and Charlotte doing wow spots that nearly end up killing them over wrestling.

SD should hopefully improve once they have a champ and start telling some stories. Becky/Nikki would be a solid feud, and eventually a Becky/Bliss feud would be fire.

Bayley is the tonic for RAW, and hopefully this latest injury woke up Sasha enough to stop with the insanity.

 

[Sheppy]

Steph always has to get something in. She ALWAYS has to respond. She's always filling air, trying to get her jabs in. Just shut the **** up and let the other person deliver their lines.

You could tell there were times when Shane was getting visibly frustrated with this. He would go to say his line and she would cut him off, Daniel Bryan would say something and she would cut him off. It's not always about you.

Steph has no understanding of wrestling psychology or the mechanics of doing a promo, she thinks she's there to get herself and her brand over. She does it at the expense of other people. It's infuriating.

You can be a heel manager and generate heat - Heyman, Vickie, Zeb, Lana - but heel heat exists solely so that a future baby face can conquer it and get over. No one gets over when Steph talks. You can tell she grew up rich and entitled and has never had anyone tell her "NO" before. It always has to be about her.

Like i say, what makes great heel managers/authority figures great is that they eventually "get theirs". Stephanie is too much of a **** to let that happen. She's legit the worst i have ever seen.

I also absolutely agree with what you've said. When someone is cutting a promo, she's always muttering something, or getting some sort of jab in. It's frustrating.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

In the past she's also always been so stuck to a script. If someone went off script for a line it would throw her off and make her visibly angry.

 

[Virtanen18]

Steph has been fine is a relative thing. Fine compared to her worst....or even her average? Yeah probably.

Fine in the true sense of the word? Nah bruh.

Thissssss. Still don't get how anyone can get invested or interested in what she has to say.

Again, Stephanie McMahon is change the channel boring and annoying.

 

[Emperoreddy]

A London Live Event is advertising a Universal Title triple threat of KO/Seth/Sami

A WWE show of any kind with a title main event featuring KO and Sami Zayn. What a time to be alive.

 

[Kimi]

It really is a strange time. I'm watching AJ Styles in a WWE ring in 2016, and then later in the show it's the ****ing Head Bangers xD.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Someone must record that Zayn vs. Owens vs. Rollins triple-threat and put it on YouTube.

 

[Emperoreddy]

It really is a strange time. I'm watching AJ Styles in a WWE ring in 2016, and then later in the show it's the ****ing Head Bangers xD.

SD's roster is so bizarre right now. Even more odd that I am watching AJ Styles in a WWE ring, while also cheering for Heath Slater and Rhyno in the same night.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

SD's roster is so bizarre right now. Even more odd that I am watching AJ Styles in a WWE ring, while also cheering for Heath Slater and Rhyno in the same night.

And AJ pinning Cena clean in a WWE ring at the second biggest show of the year takes the cake.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Seems like we are getting there, as far as the product most fans really want to see. As long as I don't see Cena kicking out of two Style's Clashes to win the belt off AJ I'll be happy.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I fully expect Cena to take the belt off Styles at Wrestlemania unless The Undertaker comes back and wants the Cena match he missed out on at WM32.

 

[Paris in Flames]

And then Wyatt takes it off Cena and we're all happy.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Screw that. I'm keeping my Nakamura/AJ Mania main event dream alive.

 

[ColePens]

I understand Nakamura/AJ will be a better match, but Cena/Nakamura has bigger implications. I want Cena/Nakamura more than anything.

 

[GKJ]

Styles/Nakamura wouldn't be the main event anyways. It wasn't even the main event in Japan

 

[Kimi]

You say that like Okada vs Tanahashi was a nothing match.

There's probably no match in the history of everything that should have been above that.

 

[GKJ]

You say that like Okada vs Tanahashi was a nothing match.

There's probably no match in the history of everything that should have been above that.

Tell that to Vince.

 

[Oil Dude]

They get time and better character development in NXT.

And it's not like the women have had bad matches on PPV's over the course of this year. If he's watching the PPV and still says that the women are 'pretty bad,' I'm not sure what the hell he expects.

I don't get what the WWE was thinking in splitting the Women up between two shows. A women's division with Charolotte , Bayley , Becky Lynch , Banks , Paige act is a pretty solid division , give them two matches on the three hour raw and allow these women a chance to turn people into fans.

 

[These Are The Days]

I loves the main events you guys are coming up with. My only concern with Styles vs Nakamura is if a potential draft splits them up because both of them on the blue brand for any prolonged period of time feels almost impossible to believe because one or both of them going to Raw feels like an inevitability. We would have to pray for the latter. It would be very dependent on when their feud started and I'm sure Nakamura will be down in NXT at least until the Royal Rumble.

 

[GKJ]

I don't get what the WWE was thinking in splitting the Women up between two shows. A women's division with Charolotte , Bayley , Becky Lynch , Banks , Paige act is a pretty solid division , give them two matches on the three hour raw and allow these women a chance to turn people into fans.

They split them so that the Izzy's of the world can watch women on both shows. In its concept, it's a fin idea. Issue is you didn't have the depth to do it.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I don't even think Nakamura will debut before Wrestlemania at this point. NXT is pretty damn lazy lately with their title picture (Joe/Balor had 4 title matches and the program went from like November - June ffs), now we have Joe/Nakamura, and it seems like they're stretching that out so the rematch is at the next Takeover which is ridiculous, and then they'll probably have at least another multi-match title program before Nakamura goes to the roster.

Joe is the guy I expect to be there, but Nakamura... I don't know. Maybe he debuts after Wrestlemania.

 

[These Are The Days]

They split them so that the Izzy's of the world can watch women on both shows. In its concept, it's a fin idea. Issue is you didn't have the depth to do it.

It's sad to say but Bliss vs Lynch feels like the only thing I've got to look forward to for any kind of women's program on Smackdown! Naomi, Natalya, Nikki, Carmella? YIKES!

 

[Jussi]

Someone must record that Zayn vs. Owens vs. Rollins triple-threat and put it on YouTube.

I think WWE tends to take down full matches from live events down but allow brief clips from matches.