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WWE: Raw and Smackdown Part 5 the Paul Levesque Era

FriendlyGhost92 said:
And they're doing what?

NXT did great things with tags, and how many of the great NXT tag teams that didn't get released are actually over on the main roster? It's not even their fault, there just is no emphasis on tags on the main roster.

Put Jey back with Jimmy whenever his title story is over, let New Day run as heels, bring the Street Profits back in, and let them run against guys like War Machine, DIY, Lucha Bros, etc. to actually get those teams platformed and over.

Then you might have a decent tag division rather than the weekly, "It's this team vs. this team with no story."
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War Raiders are champs on Raw and Street Profits champs on Smackdown. DIY were champs before them.
 
Jussi said:
I did not suggest that. :huh:
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I mean you keep trying to suggest that they're over but how many people are buying tickets to see them or buying their merch?

These guys are not the New Day or the Usos. They're not the Hardys or Edge and Christian or the Dudleys.

And until they've got teams at those levels to work with, they never will be.
 
Sheppy said:
I still don't see Jey Uso as anything other than a tag team wrestler.
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He's not particularly a good worker and a lot of that can be covered in a tag.

But at the end of the day it's kinda undeniable that he's massively over with the audience. Which is a combination of a shit ton of charisma and some ridiculously good character development over a 5 year period.

He's essentially a modern day Jeff Hardy. Not the biggest guy. Not the greatest worker. Just has a ton of charisma.
 
Jussi said:
To say that War Raiders, Street profits and DIY are not gettign ny reactions, is just blindness. Or you're just watching American crowds who are asleep in general.
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That's it, though. A Dorito chip would be over in England/France/wherever. That's what happens when you visit those locations once a year, or sometimes even longer.

In America (where 90% of it takes place) you can hear a rat piss on cotton.
 
FriendlyGhost92 said:
He's not particularly a good worker and a lot of that can be covered in a tag.

But at the end of the day it's kinda undeniable that he's massively over with the audience. Which is a combination of a shit ton of charisma and some ridiculously good character development over a 5 year period.

He's essentially a modern day Jeff Hardy. Not the biggest guy. Not the greatest worker. Just has a ton of charisma.
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I think he's going to be exposed big time after Mania when he wins the title. Not denying he's over, he very much is, but I think it will be like Kofi. Cool little moment, but at the end of the day he holds it for a few months at most.
 
Sheppy said:
I think he's going to be exposed big time after Mania when he wins the title. Not denying he's over, he very much is, but I think it will be like Kofi. Cool little moment, but at the end of the day he holds it for a few months at most.
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I anticipate him to be a dud transitional champion, but still good for the business, honestly.

Tells fans if you get behind a guy we'll reward you for it. Even if he's a flash in the pan he's sold them a f*** ton of merch.
 
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Sheppy said:
That's it, though. A Dorito chip would be over in England/France/wherever. That's what happens when you visit those locations once a year, or sometimes even longer.

In America (where 90% of it takes place) you can hear a rat piss on cotton.
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No, that's how Europeans fans are ALWAYS in sporting events.
 
Jussi said:
If they visited more often, the reception would still be the same. North American fans just don't come up with the songs and chants that Europeans do and that aspect comes from the general sports fan culture.
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Jussi, what are you even talking about? I know all of this, lol.
 
Jussi said:
You literally said this:



What are YOU talking about? :laugh:
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I'm talking about the WWE, you know this. You're moving goal posts and nitpicking something that doesn't need to be nitpicked.

The crowds there are loud for WWE events. That's what I'm saying. You're saying those talents are super over because of it. They're not.

You could put Natalya out there and she'd get a reaction.

Jesus Christ, man. :laugh:
 
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Sheppy said:
I'm talking about the WWE, you know this. You're moving goal posts and nitpicking something that doesn't need to be nitpicked.

The crowds there are loud for WWE events. That's what I'm saying, thus, you're saying those talents are super over because of it. They're not.

Jesus Christ, man. :laugh:
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You literally said thee crowds are loud because they only come over so rarely and I explained that's the normal sports crowd behavior in Europe. You're the one moving goal posts suddenly.
 
Jussi said:
You literally said thee crowds are loud because they only come over so rarely and I explained that's the normal sports crowd behavior in Europe. You're the one moving goal posts suddenly.
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Holy f***. You're nitpicking such a small thing.

I know the crowds are loud there. You literally used it as a measuring stick on how over those specific tag teams are. I said they spend 90% elsewhere and are not remotely over to the extent you're making them out to be.
 
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