Nikishin al Gaib
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He got called that when he went to our coaches and said he didn't want to play for us.
Which, I mean yeah in Carolina he wasn't a team player. He didn't want to play for that team
Rantanen vs Necas points race to end of season.
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Which, I mean yeah in Carolina he wasn't a team player. He didn't want to play for that team
Bruce Granville
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Except he never wanted to leave Colorado or denied extension talks and your GM just decided eff it, I‘ll make an offer Colorado can‘t refuse.
He was very clear he didn‘t want to be traded…and you blame him he wasn‘t happy?
On top of that the style of hockey is completely different, his minutes dropped (because Rod rolls with 4 lines) and he had only like two games at home during his stint. Difficult to build chemistry. And you have the AH GM nagging about signing with a team you didn‘t want to be traded to in the first place.
It has nothing to do with lack of professionalism. Some don‘t mind being forced, others do.
Keep your star players happy…the first rule ignored by trading at all for him.
Btw, the boatload of money was hardly an argument. You offered less than Dallas pays him now, after taxes.
And even with Dallas it took some time to arrive and get used to the new team. (Maybe it was a lucky circumstance that Robertson got injured, otherwise he would still be on his line. Granlund is a better fit as a pass first guy, imo.)
tarheelhockey
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What do you mean? They offered him a massive contract, he refused to sign it and wanted to go to UFA. They gave him the trade he was asking for.
Canes were not allowed to speak with him directly. Colorado management indicated that he would be willing to entertain an extension with Carolina if traded.
So no, he was not very clear at all. Everything was filtered through his agent and the Avs front office, with no direct contact.
Well yeah, the TDL was coming up. That’s not “nagging”, it’s the calendar being a reality.
Let’s be very clear — Rantanen was unprofessional in his last few games in Carolina. That’s not crucifying him for wanting to leave. It’s the reality of his behavior on the ice. With time to reflect, he’d probably say so himself behind closed doors.
So the Canes treated him badly by… failing to change the state tax system?
Look, it was an unfortunate situation. Carolina management made every good-faith effort to bring him into the family, make him comfortable signing there long term. That was the entire idea behind the trade. He didn’t buy in, which is fair game, but he also quit on the group of guys that was trying to make him feel welcome. They did him right by moving him along to Dallas, a team he wanted to go to. Painting the Canes as villains in all this is way, way off base.
They literally traded for him and tossed him away. Played him for few weeks and tossed him away. If there was to be a Stars-Canes series, even you would vote him for Conn smythe.
BednarIsStupid
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When it was 50-50 Landeskog would stay? He was always going to go to the higher bidder. But, if they did sign him to 14 million or whatever he wanted from Colorado, Avalanche still lose this series and have even less cap room for future roster building.
Well i think we can all ageee after this that Rantanen > Necas. He stepped up when needed, showed what an impact player he is in the playoffs.
tarheelhockey
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Just to align on basic facts here: you understand that the Canes offered him a huge contract which he refused to sign, and that said he would be leaving as a UFA if not by trade?
From the players point of view they traded for him and then traded him away. Basically tossing him around.
Everyone thought they traded him for the playoffs, but in reality they had no idea why they even traded for him.
tarheelhockey
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Again — Rantanen was the one who wanted to leave. They traded him to a place he wanted to be, after he turned down a massive contract offer. How in the world would Rantanen have the impression of being tossed around?
SillyRabbit
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I haven't read all 60 pages but I'm pretty sure that at no point did anyone think Necas was better than Rantanen.
Which is why they weren't traded 1-for-1.
Rantanen is still better than the combined value of the package he was traded for though.
I doubt there has been much change but we going to get an update on this after the first round?
All the recepits are here. Embarrassing thread. When the heat is on, some men run and some men stand.
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Carolina traded for him and almost immediately offered him a long term deal, and your take out of that is that they didn't want him and was "tossing him around"?
The reality is that Rantanen didn't want to leave Colorado, gave Carolina a shot, couldn't see himself playing in Carolina's system for 8 years, and provided Carolina a list of teams he'd be willing to sign with so they could recoup some of the assets they traded for him.
It worked out well for Carolina, since the return they got from Rantanen was much more than the offers they had for Necas at that point. It's obviously worked out well for Dallas, now that Rantanen has found his game there. And while I'm sure tonight stings for Colorado, they've seemed pretty happy with the play of Necas and Drury up to this point.
When it mattered Rantanen made an impact and Necas disappeared.
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im satisfied with Rantanens performance, after all shit hes got
from everywhere even in Finland, "Barkovs better, hes a product of
Nate "Mr0-5ingm7" MacKinnon
it was a heroic effort these last 2 games, last time a saw something similiar
was McDavids 8 points in gm4 and 5 in the finals.
kudos to moose
ill celebrate him with this!
from everywhere even in Finland, "Barkovs better, hes a product of
Nate "Mr0-5ingm7" MacKinnon
it was a heroic effort these last 2 games, last time a saw something similiar
was McDavids 8 points in gm4 and 5 in the finals.
kudos to moose
ill celebrate him with this!
SoundAndFury
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It's funny, every year, be it Kuznetsov trade, Rantanen trade Canes fans are out there to prove how their GM was right and someone else was at fault. Even your own coach basically called out your GM on his f*** up, why do you have to carry on with this charade how Rantanen was wrong to make his own choice instead of having it made for him.
behemolari
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this thread is going well, dont lock it until both season is over
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Calderon
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Well the tables did turn quite spectacularly. Rantanen ended up diminishing this ppg gap between him and MacKinnon. They are now at 1.32 and 1.28, respectively. This bodes really well for Mikko.
karhukissa
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I understand that many Colorado fans had to cope after losing him, but it was getting hilarious at some point. Now Mikko humiliates Avs and some of their salty fans.
Mikko was always underrated in their fanbase and well, this is what superstars do when under the pressure.
Mikko was always underrated in their fanbase and well, this is what superstars do when under the pressure.
TotalHomer
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Necas did what he always does, disappears when the going gets tough.
Plural
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No, Canes did the trade for Rantanen as a bit of a gamble and uncertainty. It didn't work out and Canes gave him the trade he personally asked for. If anything, Canes organization comes of as classy and bit naive.
Rantanen mailed it in the last games. He deserves a bit of flack from that.
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I never said he was better. Not once.Lol and some people said Necas is better, sorry @Czechboy
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