This is well said. Also, I'd rather have a guy who will score 30 goals on the ice and allow 20 than a guy who will score 40 goals but allow 45. Defense has always been the most undervalued asset in the NHL. As long as teams pay exclusively for offense and points, the Hurricanes will have a systemic, league-wide advantage in prioritizing team success and winning.
One of these teams has won something in the last half decade…
....But, you haven't won anything. You haven't even come close quite frankly.
Neither have the Oilers. The Hurricanes have failed in the playoffs every year, but at least they've made the dance and won a round. I would agree that not winning the Stanley Cup is considered a failure for a contending team, but there's something to be said for contending in the first place. Hockey is a random sport and only one team can win it all. This trade landed the roster a bonafida top 10 player in the league, who should be the best player on his team. It's a worthy gamble that may or may not pay off.
Also on the defense side of things, the group has been strong every year but also look at the amount of turnover and Rod and the Canes still get high end results.
Perpetual mediocrity being the New York Islanders, not being the 2nd best team in the league in the regular season the past 6 years.
12 teams have won a conference final game since Brind'Amour was hired and Carolina isn't one of them
The New York Islanders have gotten closer to a cup during the Brind'Amour era than the Canes have
Yup. The PP has been a big issue in the playoffs.
This is exactly why he's one of my fav players! Him, Bouch and Pasta. All have very similar mindsets.
Great. All those teams that did that and didn't win the cup are still losers. Just like the Canes. Just like the rest of the league. Go talk about them.
I mean you're the one who's trying to make it sound like the Canes are somehow the model of success or something and we're simply just pointing out they aren't,
They are a model of being competitive each year. That is one way you can acknowledge or quantify 'success' as a franchise. Again, if success is only winning the cup then 31/32 teams are losers each year. It's fine to look at it that way if you want but to think there is no differentiation between winning 50 games and advancing in the playoffs and losing 50 games is silly.
You’re the one who came in with the Canes being a model franchise that everyone should follow to keep winning Cups, then get defensive when people call out they haven’t won anything meaningful in years… don’t deal us Aces and then expect us not to call.
I never said they are a model franchise and never said anyone should follow them. They have a system that has gotten positive results over the last 7 years and they've done this without having superstar players. It hasn't resulted in a cup and that sucks but what would you like them to do? Just go out there and tell every player go out there and score a hattrick every game? Maybe you should be a GM or president of hockey ops with that kind of beautiful mind groundbreaking strategy!
I literally said it was a simplistic overview and not the full picture but it likely contributed to the lower success of the special teams. What weren't you able to understand about that?
Sure. Without Hart trophy, art ross winners, norris winners, vezina finalists, 50 goal scorers, etc. We'll try harder next time.
