Mikko always takes the offhand sides. He's gotten pretty good at it since Landy's injury.Is it me or does Bednar seem to always put Mikko on the faceoff when he wants a win on attacking zone
On the stats he is 53% this..
Rumor: Rantanen Extension is Close???
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MacK loses draws 60% of the time. And pouts when he loses the draw every time.
Which is why Rants takes draws on the PP.
I've seen MacK take plenty of draws on the PP. I'm like 90% sure it all depends on which side of the goalie they're on.
Yes MacK does take draws on his strong side.
I didn't know we're supposed to say things that are factually correct. But I'll do better from now on.
Love you!
Damn straight you will.
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At the point it's pretty safe to assume that he's going to do like Landy/Kadri/Nuke/Grubauer. Wait for an offer on the market and ask the Avs if they want to match it.
Avs will say yes but over 8 years instead of 7, Rants will agree.
Avs will say yes but over 8 years instead of 7, Rants will agree.
I bet that's what you say to all the girls in town...Damn straight you will.
Water is wet, the sky is blue, and I don't love you.
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MarkT
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So, since the Blackwood signing gives us some more certainty about a position that was totally up in the air, I wanted to revisit the big decision on Rantanen. I decided to make two different versions of the 2025 roster to see how things would look. If you disagree with any of the contracts I've given players, please let me know (I'm not good at contracts)
Avalanche 2025 Without Rantanen (3m+ in cap space assuming Landeskog is on LTIR/Retired)
In this scenario, the Avs sign Rantanen to an 8 year deal and trade him before July 1. As you can see, I decided Carolina would make a good trade partner for moving Rantanen. Svechnikov is the type of player I'd be looking for in the swap in terms of productivity, age, and contract status, plus Carolina's issue has been lack of high-end scoring in the playoffs, which is what Rantanen represents. Other guys you might slot into that spot are Lafreniere (if the Rangers really go crazy) or Meier (or Jarvis/Necas if Carolina is willing). Note, I don't know what the full trade would look like in terms or draft picks/prospects involved, but I tried to keep it simple here (Imagine whatever draft picks are necessary to have these trades make sense).
In any case, there is money left over here in case any of these contracts need to be higher, and there would be room to add or upgrade as well. This also leaves flexibility for when we need to re-sign guys going forward. To me, this still looks like a sure fire playoff team with lots of firepower. By the way, if Landekog is miraculously healthy, then drop some combination of Colton, Drouin, Wood, Girard or Manson from this lineup.
Avalanche 2025 with Rantanen (under 900k in cap space)
This assumes Rantanen will sign for 12m, which is not certain at all, and it leaves us with no cap space. I had to dump Wood to make it fit. If any of these guys ask for more money than what I've offered here, then we would need to subtract more. To me, what Rantanen re-signing represents is a dirt cheap 4th line, and as time goes on and other guys earn raises, less and less depth. But what this also shows is that if Rantanen will sign for around 12m, it doesn't cripple the team. Move him up to 14+m and now we're having to go cheap on both line 3 and 4 or on our second D pair.
Avalanche 2025 Without Rantanen (3m+ in cap space assuming Landeskog is on LTIR/Retired)
In this scenario, the Avs sign Rantanen to an 8 year deal and trade him before July 1. As you can see, I decided Carolina would make a good trade partner for moving Rantanen. Svechnikov is the type of player I'd be looking for in the swap in terms of productivity, age, and contract status, plus Carolina's issue has been lack of high-end scoring in the playoffs, which is what Rantanen represents. Other guys you might slot into that spot are Lafreniere (if the Rangers really go crazy) or Meier (or Jarvis/Necas if Carolina is willing). Note, I don't know what the full trade would look like in terms or draft picks/prospects involved, but I tried to keep it simple here (Imagine whatever draft picks are necessary to have these trades make sense).
In any case, there is money left over here in case any of these contracts need to be higher, and there would be room to add or upgrade as well. This also leaves flexibility for when we need to re-sign guys going forward. To me, this still looks like a sure fire playoff team with lots of firepower. By the way, if Landekog is miraculously healthy, then drop some combination of Colton, Drouin, Wood, Girard or Manson from this lineup.
Avalanche 2025 with Rantanen (under 900k in cap space)
This assumes Rantanen will sign for 12m, which is not certain at all, and it leaves us with no cap space. I had to dump Wood to make it fit. If any of these guys ask for more money than what I've offered here, then we would need to subtract more. To me, what Rantanen re-signing represents is a dirt cheap 4th line, and as time goes on and other guys earn raises, less and less depth. But what this also shows is that if Rantanen will sign for around 12m, it doesn't cripple the team. Move him up to 14+m and now we're having to go cheap on both line 3 and 4 or on our second D pair.
This is a nice, easily understandable layout. Thanks for that!
Assuming Landy is done, the difference in these two rosters are basically Rants & Ivan vs Svechnikov & Wood.
That makes it a very easy decision for me; the version with Rants is by far the best, no matter how interesting the summer of '26 will be. Although, I think the version without Rantanen would probably include a veteran bottom pairing D at about 2x2.
I also think a total of 5 million for Drouin + Malinski could be realistic.
MarkT
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Well since you liked those, here are a couple more.
What if everyone wants a bit more and Rantanen wants 14m?
Well, now Drouin and Malinski are gone, and there is no cap left. Not even enough for a 13th forward. One injury and would f***ed. No depth at all.
Now, here's the worst possible:
Rantanen at 14m and Landy is back:
Drouin, Malinksi, Gerard, and Colton are all gone. Maybe switch Malinksi and Wood. Either way, zero depth, possible not even a playoff team any more if there are more injuries, which there will be.
I think it's more likely Landy comes back permanently than Rants coming in at 14 million. Anywhere between 12-12,5 million is what we should expect for Rants, imo.
If Landy will be back next fall? I really don't know what to believe anymore
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Rantanen Talks With Avalanche “Pretty Ugly”; One Cup Contender Revealed to be Calling
We shared the reports last month that the Colorado Avalanche were going to have a "rough road" to signing superstar forward Mikko Rantanen ...
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Rantanen Talks With Avalanche “Pretty Ugly”; One Cup Contender Revealed to be Calling
We shared the reports last month that the Colorado Avalanche were going to have a "rough road" to signing superstar forward Mikko Rantanen ...www.nhltraderumors.me
There was also a similar article, with similar quotes, that came out mid season about Landy's negotiation with the Avs.
Hey if Carolina is willing to include Aho in a package I wouldn't be opposed to it.Rantanen Talks With Avalanche “Pretty Ugly”; One Cup Contender Revealed to be Calling
We shared the reports last month that the Colorado Avalanche were going to have a "rough road" to signing superstar forward Mikko Rantanen ...
Aho + Svechnikov for Rantanen(extended) + Mittelstadt
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I would feel disgusted.
Rantanen signed for 8 years is so much better of a player than Svech that it’s not even funny.
Extend or walk. Say it with me. Extend or walk.
The Avalanche… will… not… trade… Mikko Rantanen.
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That would be a situation where I expect some jerseys to be tossed on the ice or lit on fire for a video on twitter
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Svech is over rated and has an injury history. He's only signed for 3 more years as well. No shot he lands 8 years of Mikko. I don't think the Canes would want to add more roster players to the trade as they are contending right now.
MarkT
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Yes, Rantanen is much better than Svechnikov. That's why he would make nearly twice as much money per season.
I agree it's unlikely the Avs will trade Rantanen. However, letting him just walk for nothing would be absolutely atrocious asset management. If he's going to walk anyway, why not arrange a sign and trade so some assets could be recouped?
You don't run a team based on what the fans want. That leads to very, very poor long-term decision-making.
Well, it would be Rantanen for Svech plus the difference in cap space between them (cap space has value too). Also, I agree they are not equally valuable, which is why I asked if anyone had any ideas about what would need to be added. From the rosters I posted earlier, if the Avs swap Rantanen for Svech and resigned their own free agents, they don't actually have any pressing needs. Instead, for extra assets I'd be looking for prospects and/or picks we could either use ourselves down the line, or swap for more players as needs arise.
That leaves the best center in Carolina either Casey Mittelstadt or Jesperi Kotkaniemi. Not happening.
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Aren't you a fan? Isn't this just something you want? lol
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Great news from the Avs side.Rantanen Talks With Avalanche “Pretty Ugly”; One Cup Contender Revealed to be Calling
We shared the reports last month that the Colorado Avalanche were going to have a "rough road" to signing superstar forward Mikko Rantanen ...
GoNordiquesGo
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I think its great news that the Avs are not caving in.
Back then some were saying Landeskog could get $9M. The Avs played hard ball, all the way to UFA, then Landeskog signed for $7M, barely hours before the deadline. I hope and supect the same will happen with Mikko.
Back then some were saying Landeskog could get $9M. The Avs played hard ball, all the way to UFA, then Landeskog signed for $7M, barely hours before the deadline. I hope and supect the same will happen with Mikko.
