Rank these players at their peak that you'd want in a 7 game playoff series

[wetcoast]

Just like the question asks rank these players at their peaks in a 7 game playoff series.

Bergeron
Datsyuk
Hossa
Kariya

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[authentic]

Datsyuk

Bergeron
Hossa/Kariya

I think Kariya could’ve been better than he had the opportunity to show due to injuries and the teams he played on though. Easy to imagine a scenario where I would take him ahead of the others except Datsyuk.

 

[Video Nasty]

I’m pretty sure Kariya would have performed the best, had he been on stacked teams like Detroit, Chicago, and to lesser extents, Pittsburgh and Boston.

I noticed your comments in the other thread and while I’m not into what if games, that’s the difference between Kariya and the other players.

Well, that and being a better player, who had what, at least six known concussions?

 

[Three On Zero]

Bergeron
Kariya / Datsyuk
Hossa

 

[armani]

Datsyuk, he was better than all of them as a 2-way beast with supreme offensive talents on ice. We don’t have a Datsyuk type in the league atm. Great player.

 

[Coffees]

Guy Lafleur
Bergeron
Kariya
Datsyuk
Hossa
Kopitar

 

[frisco]

Datsyuk/Hossa
Bergeron
Kariya

My Best-Carey

 

[bobholly39]

Weird players for playoffs.

I feel both Datsyuk and Bergeron are overrated for playoffs. They did decent enough overall - but some people believe they are great or unstoppable, and that's just not the case. Datsyuk's playoffs are ~so-so all things considered.

Problem is - Hossa is the worst of the 4 players (even though pretty strong for playoffs) - and I think Kariya is possibly the best, but he has such a small playoff track record so it's hard to judge. I think I'd go:

Datsyuk
Kariya
Hossa
Bergeron

But - they're all relatively close, and I could see it go anyway from 1 to 4.

If this is based on that other thread that also involved Lafleur and Kopitar - Lafleur would be #1 by a huge margin, and I'd actually pick Kopitar #2. Better/more consistent playoff track record for him than these 4 players listed here.

 

[authentic]

Bergeron
Kariya / Datsyuk
Hossa

Well that’s a big whoops. In no universe would any sane person take Bergeron over Datsyuk, especially not at their best.

 

[authentic]

Guy Lafleur
Bergeron
Kariya
Datsyuk
Hossa
Kopitar

Nooo!

Weird players for playoffs.

I feel both Datsyuk and Bergeron are overrated for playoffs. They did decent enough overall - but some people believe they are great or unstoppable, and that's just not the case. Datsyuk's playoffs are ~so-so all things considered.

Problem is - Hossa is the worst of the 4 players (even though pretty strong for playoffs) - and I think Kariya is possibly the best, but he has such a small playoff track record so it's hard to judge. I think I'd go:

Datsyuk
Kariya
Hossa
Bergeron

But - they're all relatively close, and I could see it go anyway from 1 to 4.

If this is based on that other thread that also involved Lafleur and Kopitar - Lafleur would be #1 by a huge margin, and I'd actually pick Kopitar #2. Better/more consistent playoff track record for him than these 4 players listed here.

Yeah I would have Kopitar easily after Datsyuk but both behind Lafleur.

 

[Beau Knows]

I'd probably take them in this order:

1) Kariya
2) Bergeron
3) Datsyuk
4) Hossa

 

[Cup or Bust]

Kariya
Datsyuk
Bergeron
Hossa

 

[authentic]

I'd probably take them in this order:

1) Kariya
2) Bergeron
3) Datsyuk
4) Hossa

Could you help explain the rationale behind Bergeron over Datsyuk? Kariya I can kinda understand but Bergeron is just a worse version of the same player.

 

[norrisnick]

Nooo!

Swapping those bolded names is my list.

 

[Beau Knows]

Could you help explain the rationale behind Bergeron over Datsyuk? Kariya I can kinda understand but
Bergeron is just a worse version of the same player.

Their playoff production is nearly identical, but Bergeron is the superior defensive player.

 

[tabness]

Kariya is made for this soft ass era he'd probably be the best player today or at the very least right up there with McDavid and Bedard so him even (slightly) above the great Pavel Datsyuk

No disrespect to the other guys absolute great players but they can't hang with Kariya and Datsyuk

 

[bobholly39]

Yeah I would have Kopitar easily after Datsyuk but both behind Lafleur.

For ability I'm fine putting Kopitar behind Datsyuk. At their best - I'd say Datsyuk is better. But for actual resume - Kopitar was more consistent in the playoffs.

Datsyuk's playoff resume is simply not that great tbh. He was nothing special in the 2002 cup win - just a rookie it's true, but he was also already 23 years old.

He was outstaged by Zetterbeg in 2008. He didn't do too well in 2009 - I know he had some injury troubles, but 9 points in 16 games is just not good - he was 10th in team scoring.

113 playoff points in 157 games - that's not even a 60 points pace per 82 games.
For what it's worth - Bergeon actually provided more offense in playoffs than Datsyuk. 62 point pace per 82 games.

Could you help explain the rationale behind Bergeron over Datsyuk? Kariya I can kinda understand but Bergeron is just a worse version of the same player.

Bergeron is better defensively than Datsyuk.

Bergeron in his playoff career averages 62 points per 82 games. Datsyuk is at 59 points per 82 games - which means Bergeron also outmatched him offensively.

There's the rationale.

 

[authentic]

For ability I'm fine putting Kopitar behind Datsyuk. At their best - I'd say Datsyuk is better. But for actual resume - Kopitar was more consistent in the playoffs.

Datsyuk's playoff resume is simply not that great tbh. He was nothing special in the 2002 cup win - just a rookie it's true, but he was also already 23 years old.

He was outstaged by Zetterbeg in 2008. He didn't do too well in 2009 - I know he had some injury troubles, but 9 points in 16 games is just not good - he was 10th in team scoring.

113 playoff points in 157 games - that's not even a 60 points pace per 82 games.
For what it's worth - Bergeon actually provided more offense in playoffs than Datsyuk. 62 point pace per 82 games.


Bergeron is better defensively than Datsyuk.

Bergeron in his playoff career averages 62 points per 82 games. Datsyuk is at 59 points per 82 games - which means Bergeron also outmatched him offensively.

There's the rationale.

This question asks about players at their peaks so I don’t get the rationale of taking their entire playoff careers into account here. Infact it quite literally makes no sense.

 

[Beau Knows]

This question asks about players at their peaks so I don’t get the rationale of taking their entire playoff careers into account here. Infact it quite literally makes no sense.

Their peak playoff scoring levels aren't exactly far apart either.