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1. Colorado
2. Vegas
3. Tampa
4. Florida
5. Winnipeg
6. Carolina
7. LA
8. Dallas
9. Edmonton
10. Toronto
11. Washington
12. Ottawa
13. New Jersey
14. Minnesota
15. St. Louis
16. Montreal
 
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1. Colorado
2. Vegas
3. Florida
4. Tampa Bay
5. Dallas
6. Winnipeg
7. Washington
8. Carolina
9. Edmonton
10. Toronto
11. Los Angeles
12. Ottawa
13. St. Louis
14. Minnesota
15. Montreal
16. New Jersey
 
Let's see.

1. They have the worst goaltending of any team in the playoffs.
2. They lost their best defensive defenseman.
3. McDrai are not 100% healthy.
4. Their depth is worse after wasting their cap space on guys like Arvidsson and Skinner

I'd say they're right where they should be.
Did you not fking read were I said I'm happy to see the Oilers at the bottom of everyone's list?

Last few years oilers been the top of the list and we all know how that worked out. So maybe woth outvthe pressure of cup or bust we do something for once
 
🙄 Have you been following the Stars? Go to the Stars board and read their GDT against the Preds. It was not a pretty picture. Otter with a .773 SV%, JRob injured (why was DeBoer playing him in a meaningless game?) and Miro likely out for a good part of Rd 1 and then there’s the rest of that Stars D. BTW, riding a 7 game losing streak isn’t how you want to be going into the POs. That’s big time butt ugly but hey, they supposedly have the deepest F corp.

Yes things are gloom, but despite all their issues right now, they’ve still managed to finish 2nd in the Central, and 5th in the NHL.

They’re a team who have had playoff success for a few years now and knows what it takes. They’re a deep team and unfortunately yes, they hit a wall the last month, but they’ve also been pretty much locked into that 2nd spot for awhile now.

Not to say they’ve been coasting and waiting for playoffs, but they’ve been coasting and waiting for playoffs lol.

That being said, they definitely deserve to be lower than what everyone expected them to be a month ago. Anywhere in the 5-10 range is fair imo until they prove otherwise.
 
1. Colorado
2. Tampa
3. Vegas
4/5. Florida/Winnipeg
6. Toronto
7. Carolina
8. St. Louis
9. Dallas
10. Washington
11. Ottawa
12. Los Angeles
13. Minnesota
14. Edmonton
15. New Jersey
16. Montreal
 
1. Colorado
2. Toronto
3. Florida
4. Vegas
5. Tampa
6. Winnipeg
7. Carolina
8. Los Angeles
9. Edmonton
10. Minnesota
11. Dallas
12. Washington
13. St Louis
14. Ottawa
15. New Jersey
16. Montreal
 
No idea, but I think Tampa Bay is a top contender this year. I would not be in the least surprised if they lift the Cup again.
I don't know. The Leafs have owned them in both the regular season and playoffs for over two years now.

What I'm having trouble grasping is how anyone can rank Florida so low down the list considering their pedigree (even with injuries). They're effectively to us what we are to TBay.
 
1. Montreal
2. the rest.
16. Toronto.
100. Edmonton if Draisatl or McDavid are actually hurt.

Seriously though I don't see a favourite this year. Maybe Tampa is the deepest team. I see exploitable flaws in nearly every team though so it breaks down to the matchups. Tampa is facing their probable worst match up across both conferences first round. Tkachuk is hurt though.

Leafs aren't bad but the Sens are a really annoying younger brother. They either get swept or they do damage. Leafs might actually push with this being the last year of their core and squeezing the absolute last bit of toothpaste out of the tube of OEL and Tanev. Wouldn't put them near the top of the favourites though.

Stars are in a funk, does not bode well.

Colorado are not particularly deep. I think taking out Suzuki and Mackinnon the Habs forwards might actually be outscoring theirs.

Caps low chance to get past the mighty Habs. (More just they've been straight up bad since Ovi got the record).

Vegas/Winnipeg probably my predictors to come out of the west.

Not an easy year to make money off bets.
 
Objectively speaking, I would go:

1. Edmonton. McDrai are going to go off again.

2. Tampa. The East is wide open, and Tampa is super well rested after 3 back to back finals a few years ago. They're hungry for one more cup, and Vasi and Kuch in top form.

3. Las Vegas. Very strong team, who always does well in playoffs....and who no one is talking about, for some reason.

4. Colorado. I don't think they do it, but it's hard to argue they have a great chance with their roster, especially led by Makar and MacKinnon.

5. Toronto. Yes, I think they have a real shot this year, with the East being wide open. Who knows - maybe the choke and fall flat in round 1 again, but I don't think so.

6. Florida. Too many injuries and I just don't see them going to a final 3 years in a row. They fall in round 1 imo.

7. Washington. I think they're a paper champion - but can't ignore their record this season. The Ovechkin hype train could carry them far, potentially.

8. Winnipeg. Same as Washington - paper champion to me. But - you can't ignore their record. And Helle is a tremendous goalie - maybe he finally puts it together in the playoffs

9. Dallas. I don't think they get past Colorado, and injuries don't help.

10. LA. Same - I don't think they get past Edmonton

11. Carolina. They always find a way to lose. It might not be round 1, but it'll definitely be round 2, or round 3 at the very most.

12. St Louis. Very strong end of season, and good roster. I think they probably lose round 1, but they have a shot to do dammage.

13. Wild. I don't really see them going beyond round 1, nor having a real chance, but you have to rank them somewhere.

14. New Jersey. I like their roster, and would have loved to see what they could do with Jack Hughes...without him, there's no way they win the cup.

15. Ottawa. Better team than Montreal in standings, so they go in spot #15. But - I don't believe in them at all. For years this roster has found ways to miss playoffs, rather than step up and qualify in close races. I don't see them as a roster who will win important games. I think they get taken out in round 1, but we'll see.

16. Montreal. I'm a Habs fan - and I think they will beat Capitals in round 1. But objectively - in terms of favorites, they are dead last, and should be. Doesn't mean they can't surprise, but if they win it will be as underdogs. They will be underdogs in every single playoff matchup this playoffs, no matter which of the other 15 teams they face, and thus they rank last on this list.
I don't agree with your list but boy do I respect the effort put into the response. Nicely done.
 
Favourites
1. Vegas
2. Tampa
3. Winnipeg

Contenders
4. Colorado
5. Florida
6. Toronto

Good teams
7. Dallas
8. Edmonton
9. LA

Pretenders
10. Washington
11. Carolina
12. Ottawa
13. St Louis

Trash pile
14. New Jersey
15. Minnesota
16. Montreal
 
1. Colorado
2. Vegas
3. Florida
4. Tampa Bay
5. Dallas
6. Winnipeg
7. Washington
8. Carolina
9. Edmonton
10. Toronto
11. Los Angeles
12. Ottawa
13. St. Louis
14. Minnesota
15. Montreal
16. New Jersey

Montreal finally getting some respect ! 😆
 
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1. Colorado Avalanche
2. Tampa Bay Lightning
3. Washington Capitals
4. Vegas Golden Knights
5. Winnipeg Jets
6. Florida Panthers
7. Carolina Hurricanes
8. Toronto Maple Leafs
9. Los Angeles Kings
10. Edmonton Oilers
11. Dallas Stars
12. New Jersey Devils
13. Ottawa Senators
14. St Louis Blues
15. Minnesota Wild
16. Montreal Canadiens
 
1. Colorado
2. Winnipeg
3. Florida
4. Tampa
5. LA
6. Vegas
7. Washington
8. Dallas
9. Toronto
10. Carolina
11. Edmonton
12. St. Louis
13. New Jersey
14. Minnesota
15. Ottawa
16. Montreal
 
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I don't know how many times the Leafs have to exit the playoffs early before people stop with the nonsense that they're a SC contender but apparently it's at least one more time.

Odd statement to post here as most of the lists created in this thread have the team that finished 4th overall this year ranked outside of their top 8 choices to win the Cup. Which pretty much lines up with "great regular season team, perennial playoff disappointment" (ie. Not a legit contender)

Or, just going on a limb here, you came into this thread just to post that regardless?
 
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Odd statement to post here as most of the lists created in this thread have the team that finished 4th overall this year ranked outside of their top 8 choices to win the Cup. Which pretty much lines up with "great regular season team, perennial playoff disappointment" (ie. Not a legit contender)

Or, just going on a limb here, you came into this thread just to post that regardless?
Math disagrees.

There are, by my count, 16 lists published here prior to my post. Of those, one admits to not being serious. Of the 15 left, 6 place the Leafs outside their top 8. 6/15 = 40%. 40% does not equal most.
 
Past playoff success is not a strong predictor of future playoff success as hard as that is to grasp. Regular season save% is a stronger predictor for example.
 
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Past playoff success is not a strong predictor of future playoff success as hard as that is to grasp. Regular season save% is a stronger predictor for example.

Is it? How'd that work for Winnipeg last year? I think past playoff success is the best predictor of a Cup winner. It's not often you get a team that goes all the way that didn't already have a previous run where they won multiple rounds.
 
Past playoff success is not a strong predictor of future playoff success as hard as that is to grasp. Regular season save% is a stronger predictor for example.
What about playoff failure? How often do teams with near zero playoff success flip a switch and leap into winning multiple rounds?
 
Is it? How'd that work for Winnipeg last year? I think past playoff success is the best predictor of a Cup winner. It's not often you get a team that goes all the way that didn't already have a previous run where they won multiple rounds.
I understand you think that, I'm telling you that you're wrong.
 
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