Rank Canucks' prospects

It's been 7 games. That's not a year i don't think. I'll wait and judge what he did this year, at the end of the year. Longshot prospect anyhow, but 7 games doesn't erase everything else he's done to this point in his career.

If he was 21, sure, but he’s 25 before the season is out. If he’s a prospect he needs to dominate *now*.
 
If he was 21, sure, but he’s 25 before the season is out. If he’s a prospect he needs to dominate *now*.
Weird start for Tolopilo:

Games 1-3: Strong
Game 4: Mediocre
Game 5: Very Bad (worst that I've ever seen him play)
Game 6: Bad
Game 7: Mediocre

He came out of the gate well, and then suddenly a four-game stretch that was clearly worse than any four-game stretch from all of last season. I have no idea what happened.
 
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If he was 21, sure, but he’s 25 before the season is out. If he’s a prospect he needs to dominate *now*.
He's a goalie. I hear they're voodoo. Jacob Markstrom was on nhl waivers at 25, and a vezina candidate at 29. You are right that if the rest of this year goes like the last month or so his NA adventure is probably over.
 
So that's four draft picks flushed out the door for two months of Zadorov and Lindholm. Thus in the 2024 entry draft the Canucks were without a first, a second (previously traded); a fourth and a fifth. It's fair to speculate how many of those picks might have eventually have shown up on the list of 'top Canuck prospects'.

Not really.

The only pick of real consequence is our 1st. The rest are a collection of darts on a blackboard. Outside the first round, very few picks ever produce impact players, especially 3rd round and below. Of course, it happens. Practically every team has a diamond in the rough, so to speak. But you can't be afraid to make moves based on hope and pray you'll find said diamond.

Another factor to is we had no way of knowing Demko would go down after one game and we'd lose Boeser for game 7. That pretty heavily impacted what could have likely been a longer playoff run.
 
Not really.

The only pick of real consequence is our 1st. The rest are a collection of darts on a blackboard. Outside the first round, very few picks ever produce impact players, especially 3rd round and below. Of course, it happens. Practically every team has a diamond in the rough, so to speak. But you can't be afraid to make moves based on hope and pray you'll find said diamond.

Another factor to is we had no way of knowing Demko would go down after one game and we'd lose Boeser for game 7. That pretty heavily impacted what could have likely been a longer playoff run.
I see it the opposite way. You only find diamonds in the rough if you have enough "rough" to look for them in. In other words, you need to have a decent collection of picks to have some pan out. Our 1st round picks have been a real mish-mash since Gillis. Wins - Horvat, Hughes, Pettersson, Boesser. Bad - Virtanen, Juolevi. Meh - Podkolzin (pretty disappointing). Looking promising - Willander and Lekkerimaki. 2020 draft - garnered JTM. 2021 draft- perhaps Jimbo's biggest blunder - a 1st 2nd and 3rd to acquire a player that will be costing us for another 3 years just to dump some contracts that would be expiring in a year.

Anyhow, we were contender for the first time in a decade last year. Not enough track history to justify going all in, IMHO.
 
Giving Allvin the benefit of the doubt, they traded just about every pick they had from rounds 1-4 in the 2024 entry draft.

That tells me they might not have been too enamored with the entire draft, once you got past the top-10 players or so. And the players they did pick like Fernstrom, Romani and Pattersson might have been 'flyers; who fell because they had inconsistent seasons or were in their second year of draft eligibility.

So upon reflection, I suppose that in some years, sacrificing picks at the TDL can be justified based on the strength and depth of the entry draft. For the Canucks sake, I hope 2024 was one of those drafts.
 
Canucks Army is going to rank their top 20 prospects over the next couple of weeks so I'll update mine from November and see how it compares. Their criteria are slightly more restrictive: 24 or under instead of 25 or under, and 25-game limit vs 50 (goalies 30) in mine. Karlsson (who I forgot to include in my first list), Raty, Sasson and Silovs are ineligible for their rankings.

(Parentheses) indicates my November ranking if there's been a change.

1. Willander
2. Lekkerimaki
3. Pettersson (4)
4. Mynio (3)
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5. Kudryavtsev (6)
6. Raty (5)
-------------------- Outside of maybe Mancini, it really drops off here
7. Mancini (NR)
8. Mueller (18)
9. Silovs (8)
10. Sasson (16)
11. Bains (9)
12. Young
13. Klimovich (10)
14. Alriksson (11)
15. Pattersson (13)
16. McWard (15)
17. Karlsson (NR)
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18 Tolopilo (19)
19 Woo (NR)
20 Koskenvuo (17)
 
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1. Tom Willander
2. Jonathan Lekkerimaki
3. Elias Pettersson
4. Sawyer Mynio
5. Kirill Kudryatsev
6. Arturs Silovs
7. Aatu Raty
8. Victor Mancini
9. Ty Mueller
10. Ty Young
11. Vilmer Alriksson
12. Max Sasson
13. Riley Patterson
14. Danila Klimovich
15. Parker Alcos
 
Canucks Army is going to rank their top 20 prospects over the next couple of weeks so I'll update mine from November and see how it compares. Their criteria are slightly more restrictive: 24 or under instead of 25 or under, and 25-game limit vs 50 (goalies 30) in mine. Karlsson (who I forgot to include in my first list), Raty, Sasson and Silovs are ineligible for their rankings.

(Parentheses) indicates my November ranking if there's been a change.

1. Willander
2. Lekkerimaki
3. Pettersson (4)
4. Mynio (3)
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5. Kudryavtsev (6)
6. Raty (5)
-------------------- Outside of maybe Mancini, it really drops off here
7. Mancini (NR)
8. Mueller (18)
9. Silovs (8)
10. Sasson (16)
11. Bains (9)
12. Young
13. Klimovich (10)
14. Alriksson (11)
15. Pattersson (13)
16. McWard (15)
17. Karlsson (NR)
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18 Tolopilo (19)
19 Woo (NR)
20 Koskenvuo (17)
That drop-off really is steep.

I'm hoping that we see Mancini in each of the five games Abby plays over the Four Nations break—it'll give us something to go by. Maybe he rises to 4th, maybe he drops ... out of sight.
 
This might be controversial, but I'd rank Junior Petey above Lekkerimaki right now.

He looks like a legit NHL defenseman at age 20 (soon to be 21) albeit with very limited ice time. I'd be very surprised if he's not in the lineup to start next season.
EP2 has serious top 4 potential, and even if he doesn't reach it he can still make it as a well-rounded bottom pairing guy.

I can't say the same regarding Lekkerimaki. I've had questions about him transitioning his game to the NHL level, and his two short stints in the show didn't leave me feeling any more confident in him doing so.
He seems like a top 6 or bust kind of forward prospect, and I don't know if he'll get that kind of opportunity with this team/coaching staff. Lekk really needs to step his game up in these next 7 months if he doesn't get traded.
 
Willander, D-Petey, and Lekkerimaki are top 30 prospects in the game, with 2 of them being in the top 15.

For a team that hasn’t really had a ton of draft pIcks and has traded 1st rounders, that’s prettt damn f***ing good. And 3 real good B prospects (Raty, Kudryavtsev, Mynio).
 

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