Rangers win a cup in this last window if they had inked panarin when he first came over?

[Edge]

You are giving our fans too much credit in their depth of thought. I'm not disagreeing with you on your take .

Well, me personally, I'm looking to make my way to Florida. =)

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Well, me personally, I'm looking to make my way to Florida. =)

Ok we are on the same page

 

[Machinehead]

Come on guys.
The simple answer is yes.
The guy produces nearly every single game.
He was the x-factor for the hawks in 2015.
He would have been the x-factor for the rangers

The Rangers didn't needed an x-factor in 15-16, they needed the whole alphabet.

The window was slammed shut and locked.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

This Panarin? Yes. 3 straight Cups.

 

[Peltz]

Between the years of 2012-2015, I'm not sure if any additions were particularly necessary to push this team over the top. They had their chances to win and any single one of those teams could have gone the distance.

2012: Team was worn down playing Torts-style hockey. Gaborik playing through a torn labrum and lack of playoff experience. Still one game away from a cup appearance and probably matched up better vs that Kings team than the Devils did.

2013: Top-heavy, rock-solid defensively, peak Lundqvist. Ran into a juggernaut of a Bruins team and some injuries. Happens.

2014: Horrible finals puck-luck and bad officiating swayed the momentum. Will bring memories of AV turtling with multiple leads to my grave.

2015: Zuccarello out was a killer. Still were one period away from winning the ECF and I think that team could have beaten Chicago, even with injuries to McDonagh and Yandle. There were rumors Zucc could return for the finals if they made it there.

I'm not sure what else they could have done from a personnel standpoint that would have made a difference. Re-signing Stralman and Brian Boyle instead of Dan Boyle and Tanner Glass sticks out to me. That may have been enough to give them the depth necessary in 15'.

They really did put together a couple of fantastic years there. It's a bummer they couldn't get one with Hank in his prime.

 

[NYSPORTS]

New York is getting so ****ty, that many current residents of New York, let alone professional athletes [many of whom aren't even from this hemisphere] are looking to jump ship due to weird politics, high taxes, and overcrowding, yet the turn of the 20th century meme of "New York New York" has 21st century fans thinking a lot of these players give a rat's ass about "The World's Most Famous Arena" over anything else.

good points yet one of the benefits of NY is a player can literally remain anonymous in the City. They can actually live a close to a normal life b/c the city is so big. Sure, they might be get recognized at a restaurant, etc yet it’s not like a smaller city where the player gets overwhelmed or their privacy is compromised non-stop. Even a City the size of Boston, a player like Manny Ramirez couldn’t go out. Ny, you can still be anonymous.

Points taken though.

 

[CasusBelli]

Seems like a game of Counterfactuals with Sheldon Cooper and Amy Farrah Fowler.

 

[NernieBichols]

Well, me personally, I'm looking to make my way to Florida. =)

St. Augustine. Thank me later

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

good points yet one of the benefits of NY is a player can literally remain anonymous in the City. They can actually live a close to a normal life b/c the city is so big. Sure, they might be get recognized at a restaurant, etc yet it’s not like a smaller city where the player gets overwhelmed or their privacy is compromised non-stop. Even a City the size of Boston, a player like Manny Ramirez couldn’t go out. Ny, you can still be anonymous.

Points taken though.

Yeah when Marc Staal is sod farming in Thunderbay, he's always like...

Man why won't these hoes get up off a brutha? Let a player play..ya kna mean? I wish I was in NYC

 

[Machinehead]

I’d say there would have been a 69% chance with Panarin.

Nice

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Topics that rely heavily on hypotheticals and assumptions always get a bit a dicey.

It's kind of like religion and politics --- the things we often have the least evidence to support are the things we tend to double-down on the most.

Yeah well the pegasus is the work of the devil because I'll tell you this...god ain't put no wings on no horse !

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

That’s what I’m saying too, yeah at a really important time when we were giving out 1st rounders like they were dollar bills to get over the hump and win a cup, they missed the equalivant of a 1OA picked who in his rookie year was the X-factor for the hawks 3rd cup.

Either they were knew exactly who he was but the hawks had established a relationship which had secured the hawks as being his entry team a couple years before panarin actually came over or that was the real asleep at the wheel motion that cost the rangers a cup in 14-15. The same year panarin and the hawks beat the bolts who beat us bc we were injured yeah, but bc we couldn’t buy a goal in games 5 or game 7

Come on guys.
The simple answer is yes.
The guy produces nearly every single game.
He was the x-factor for the hawks in 2015.
He would have been the x-factor for the rangers

I’m not a Rangers fan, but I’m just lurking and reading this thread, but you’ve got this wrong twice now and I’m not sure why anybody hasn’t corrected you yet.

Panarin wasn’t a part of the 2014-2015 Blackhawks team that won the Stanley Cup. He was playing in Russia when that happened. He signed with the Hawks in the summer of 2015 and debuted with them in the 2015-2016 regular season. The Blackhawks actually never even won a playoff round with Panarin on the team.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I’m not a Rangers fan, but I’m just lurking and reading this thread, but you’ve got this wrong twice now and I’m not sure why anybody hasn’t corrected you yet.

Panarin wasn’t a part of the 2014-2015 Blackhawks team that won the Stanley Cup. He was playing in Russia when that happened. He signed with the Hawks in the summer of 2015 and debuted with them in the 2015-2016 regular season. The Blackhawks actually never even won a playoff round with Panarin on the team.

Not only that...there is no record of a "Nernie Bichols" ever on the Rangers roster.

 

[NernieBichols]

I’m not a Rangers fan, but I’m just lurking and reading this thread, but you’ve got this wrong twice now and I’m not sure why anybody hasn’t corrected you yet.

Panarin wasn’t a part of the 2014-2015 Blackhawks team that won the Stanley Cup. He was playing in Russia when that happened. He signed with the Hawks in the summer of 2015 and debuted with them in the 2015-2016 regular season. The Blackhawks actually never even won a playoff round with Panarin on the team.

Hahaha. Thank you very much. I did not know that at all. Wow talk about revisionist history there.

I just looked at the stats right now. I remember panarin and Kane lighting up a couple playoffs games I watched with my pops, bc I remember him commenting on how panarin looked as good as Kane, but yeah I must have assumed it was part of the bhawks cup run in 14-15.

Thanks for clarifying that. I Stand corrected

 

[NernieBichols]

Well that changes the goalposts on the question. Suddenly we’re talking 15-16 (Pitt in 5) and 16-17 (Ottawa debacle)

Won’t lie, I look back and even though it wasn’t our best team or the rangers team playing its best in the spring. But you look back and 16-17 might have been our best chance at a cup

 

[romba]

@Edge I didn't mean players don't like playing at MSG. I meant that a lot of the fans think the free agents arrive on a liner at Ellis Island and stand in awe of "the big city".

So true. In the NBA for example, players LOOOOOOOOVE playing in the Mecca of Basketball (MSG), and even talk about it being amazing. But just for one day though. Then they want to go back to their quiet mansion where no one bothers them in Oklahoma or Brooklyn (jk but not really).

This isn't the 80's and 90's. The internet, youtube, SM has taken the luster off of previously 'romantic' ideas, like playing ball in the Big Apple NYC. Most guys would rather come for a day, play spoiler to the home crowd in NYC, get their backpage coverage for a day, hit the clubs for a night, and then go back to not being bothered. I get it, I wish most NY fans would as well.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

So true. In the NBA for example, players LOOOOOOOOVE playing in the Mecca of Basketball (MSG), and even talk about it being amazing. But just for one day though. Then they want to go back to their quiet mansion where no one bothers them in Oklahoma or Brooklyn (jk but not really).

This isn't the 80's and 90's. The internet, youtube, SM has taken the luster off of previously 'romantic' ideas, like playing ball in the Big Apple NYC. Most guys would rather come for a day, play spoiler to the home crowd in NYC, get their backpage coverage for a day, hit the clubs for a night, and then go back to not being bothered. I get it, I wish most NY fans would as well.

That's also why the #PlayLikeaNewYorker is ridiculous.

Most of the "Noow Yorkaz" can't even afford to go to the blue seats, and yeah I'm not scared of people wearing Fedoras in Park Slope either.